Trade Idea with Bos

SparringPartner · Post #1 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:38 am

What would be the interest in this deal?

Assuming Jefferson resigns for $12 million or less and every other cap hold player is renounced there will be a lot of cap room to take on salaries from other teams.

Rajon Rondo
Jeff Green
Brandon Bass

For

Alec Burks
2013 #14 & #21
Future first

Utah Starting Five;

Rondo (27)
Hayward (23)
Green (27)
Favors (22)
Jefferson (28)

AingesBurner · Post #2 » by **AingesBurner** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:44 am

Umm no, not taking on all that salary and giving up picks as well.

SparringPartner · Post #3 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:53 am

Underkanter wrote:Umm no, not taking on all that salary and giving up picks as well.

Lets be clear, you're going to have to pay someone these salaries. I believe the minimum payroll is around $50 million. I guess it's just a matter of who you pay it too. Is Utah a FA hot zone?? Or will the Jazz resign all there players and be stuck were they are currently? What I propose makes the Jazz major players in the West IMO.

AingesBurner · Post #4 » by **AingesBurner** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:55 am

SparringPartner wrote:
Underkanter wrote:Umm no, not taking on all that salary and giving up picks as well.

Lets be clear, you're going to have to pay someone these salaries. I believe the minimum payroll is around $50 million. I guess it's just a matter of who you pay it too. Is Utah a FA hot zone?? Or will the Jazz resign all there players and be stuck were they are currently?

25 mil for 3 players are you high

SparringPartner · Post #5 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 2:59 am

Underkanter wrote:
SparringPartner wrote:
Underkanter wrote:Umm no, not taking on all that salary and giving up picks as well.

Lets be clear, you're going to have to pay someone these salaries. I believe the minimum payroll is around $50 million. I guess it's just a matter of who you pay it too. Is Utah a FA hot zone?? Or will the Jazz resign all there players and be stuck were they are currently?

25 mil for 3 players are you high

Hmm.....

$8.3 million on average

The Jazz were paying Marvin "friggin" Williams $8.2 million and Mo Williams $8.5 million last year

Are you high?

AingesBurner · Post #6 » by **AingesBurner** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:04 am

Both are expiring or going to expire when we trade for them. So no I am not high let see you trade us a good PG, an ok SF, and a below average PF haha really I would rather take my chances in the draft.

The59Sound · Post #7 » by **The59Sound** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:13 am

Hell yes. I do that trade in a nanosecond. Jeff Green came on very strong and Rondo is an elite point guard. Brandon Bass? Overpaid, but a decent player. Sign me up.

SparringPartner · Post #8 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:16 am

Underkanter wrote:Both are expiring or going to expire when we trade for them. So no I am not high let see you trade us a good PG, an ok SF, and a below average PF haha really I would rather take my chances in the draft.

Utah PG last year = Mo Williams/Earl Watson ---> Rondo (top 5 PG) = Major Upgrade (injury factored into price)

Utah SF last year = Marvin Williams ------> Green (top 10 SF) = Major Upgrade

Bass is a good bench player nothing more

Utah gives up none of their core Favors, Kanter, Jefferson, Hayward to make this happen.

WTF is wrong with you.......

AingesBurner · Post #9 » by **AingesBurner** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:20 am

Its not a bad trade but remember we have to resign Favors, Kanter, and Hayward and depending on how they play could demand the green, those 3 could take up 30-35 mil in cap alone so we have to be smart with our money unlike Boston we are a small market. Also the other major issue: Will Rondo be happy in Utah????

SparringPartner · Post #10 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:26 am

Underkanter wrote:Its not a bad trade but remember we have to resign Favors, Kanter, and Hayward and depending on how they play could demand the green, those 3 could take up 30-35 mil in cap alone so we have to be smart with our money unlike Boston we are a small market. Also the other major issue: Will Rondo be happy in Utah????

Now u r at least making decent, logical, not absurd comments. The only reason Boston would even do this is because they are in full rebuild mode. That might not be the case. To think this is not a good deal talent wise is just stupid.

You pose an interesting question. Rondo's happiness.

The59Sound · Post #11 » by **The59Sound** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:28 am

When the price is this good, you roll the dice on Rondo's potential happiness. And money talks, re: future bird rights.

No reason whatsoever for the Jazz to turn this deal down. This would be killer.

SparringPartner · Post #12 » by **SparringPartner** » Sun May 26, 2013 3:38 am

The59Sound wrote:When the price is this good, you roll the dice on Rondo's potential happiness. And money talks, re: future bird rights.

No reason whatsoever for the Jazz to turn this deal down. This would be killer.

For the record;

I think Rondo would get a hard-on to be the leader of young up and coming players for a team that's never won a championship. In his mind (just guessing obviously) he could end up being the face of a franchise. Places like Boston have many other faces if you know what I mean.

AingesBurner · Post #13 » by **AingesBurner** » Sun May 26, 2013 7:27 am

SparringPartner wrote:
The59Sound wrote:When the price is this good, you roll the dice on Rondo's potential happiness. And money talks, re: future bird rights.

No reason whatsoever for the Jazz to turn this deal down. This would be killer.

For the record;

I think Rondo would get a hard-on to be the leader of young up and coming players for a team that's never won a championship. In his mind (just guessing obviously) he could end up being the face of a franchise. Places like Boston have many other faces if you know what I mean.

For the record I love Rondo, Bass, and Green, they are all beasts; but I want to see what happens up into the draft. I could see Rondo getting a hard on leading the Jazz but again coming to Utah is the issue, players don't want to play in Utah. Why do you want this trade anyway???? Josh Smith and getting up in the draft for Burke or Carter Williams? Green seemed like a bright spot for the C's?

Ugly0598 · Post #14 » by **Ugly0598** » Sun May 26, 2013 8:18 am

I might consider that... although I don't want to bring back Al.

king everything · Post #15 » by **king everything** » Sun May 26, 2013 11:33 am

I'd do it in a second. I don't think Boston wants any part of it. That's pretty weak sauce to get back for an elite pg.

David Ginola 14 · Post #16 » by **David Ginola 14** » Sun May 26, 2013 7:12 pm

I don't want Jefferson...

Luigi · Post #17 » by **Luigi** » Mon May 27, 2013 2:45 am

I think Boston asks for more. I'd love this trade.

finnegan · Post #18 » by **finnegan** » Mon May 27, 2013 5:39 pm

Done. Where do we sign?

Brighteyes49 · Post #19 » by **Brighteyes49** » Mon May 27, 2013 9:52 pm

YES!!!

BleedGreen1989 · Post #20 » by **BleedGreen1989** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:11 am

The59Sound wrote:When the price is this good, you roll the dice on Rondo's potential happiness. And money talks, re: future bird rights.

No reason whatsoever for the Jazz to turn this deal down. This would be killer.

Yea this is pretty much a no brainer for Utah. Hate it for Boston though. Favors would have to be coming back.

Rondo is an all star who has already proven he can rise to superstar status when needed. 59 seems to be one of the only guys outside of Boston who understands Jeff Greens talent. For some reason people think he is an overpaid bum. Go check his stats post-allstar break and then remind yourself he just came off open heart surgery.

Even with Favors in the deal, I likely wouldn't include Green. Boston is giving up way too much talent and known commodity for a good prospect. I like Favors and all, not a knock on him but Boston would be giving up an elite PG and a boarderline all star.