Should Wade get suspended

[Nuntius]

I'll tell you this much, I wouldn't be touching the top of my head after the hit.

http://emedicine.medscape.com/article/857365-overview

The temporal bone is the most complex bone in the human body. It houses many vital structures, including the cochlear and vestibular end organs, the facial nerve, the carotid artery, and the jugular vein. A temporal bone fracture can involve none or all of these structures. Associated trauma to other cranial nerves (other than the facial nerve; ie, VI [abducens], IX [glossopharyngeal], X [vagus] and XI [spinal accessory] can also cause paralysis.

The temporal bone is the place that Lance Stephenson was hit. It is one of the most vulnerable areas of a human being. It's easy to injure and some of those injuries can be quite serious.

You really should avoid telling "what you'd do" when it's clear that you don't know anything about head injuries.

Even if no injury occurs a hit in the temple can easily disorient you and create dizziness for a little while.

You are free to test it, by the way. Have a friend of yours to run towards you, jump and smack you with his "forearm" to the temple. See what happens then. You aren't going to feel very well

[UnbelievablyRAW]

So you believe that Wade wanted to hit Lance the whole time right? That even if Lance hadn't stepped in front of Wade while he was sprinting, Wade would have turned and ran into Lance for no reason and hit him with his forearm?

That makes much more sense

My friend, when a certain player has numerous incidents of hitting players out of frustration then he loses the benefit of the doubt. That's the issue here.

The only time I've seen him hit someone out of frustration was the Collison play.

[derekc]

That makes no sense. Lance stepped in front of Wade while he was sprinting up court and would get hit either by a head on collision even if Wade hadn't tried to jump to the right of Lance to get out of the way. The whole incident was Lance's fault

So, we have reached the point of blaming the victim now?

Do you think this whole thing would have happened if Lance hadn't stepped in front of him?

Imagine a speeding car approaching a stop sign and just starting to slow down and a teenager decides to play chicken and jump in front of the car. The car swerves to avoid the kid but still hits the kid albeit not head on. Who's fault was it that the kid got hit? The driver? Or the kid jumping in front of the car?

The guy who led with his arm is at fault

[Thugger HBC]

The whole thing could've been avoided if Wade didn't lead with arm.

Lance should have fully committed to the charge.

He wasn't even attempting to take a charge, though.

The Lance is pretty dumb to step in front of a player in near full sprint.

He was clearly undecided on drawing a charge, or his attempt was to undercut Wade when he sees him coming.

[Nuntius]

That makes no sense. Lance stepped in front of Wade while he was sprinting up court and would get hit either by a head on collision even if Wade hadn't tried to jump to the right of Lance to get out of the way. The whole incident was Lance's fault

So, we have reached the point of blaming the victim now?

Do you think this whole thing would have happened if Lance hadn't stepped in front of him?

Imagine a speeding car approaching a stop sign and just starting to slow down and a teenager decides to play chicken and jump in front of the car. The car swerves to avoid the kid but still hits the kid albeit not head on. Who's fault was it that the kid got hit? The driver? Or the kid jumping in front of the car?

Yes, it would have happened. Lance didn't step in front of him. Lance was in front of him the whole time and was stepping away from him.

It would be like the kid in your example run past the car and the car making a turn towards the kid to ensure that it hits it.

[Nuntius]

So you believe that Wade wanted to hit Lance the whole time right? That even if Lance hadn't stepped in front of Wade while he was sprinting, Wade would have turned and ran into Lance for no reason and hit him with his forearm?

That makes much more sense

My friend, when a certain player has numerous incidents of hitting players out of frustration then he loses the benefit of the doubt. That's the issue here.

The only time I've seen him hit someone out of frustration was the Collison play.

Sessions? RIP?

[Nuntius]

The Lance is pretty dumb to step in front of a player in near full sprint.

He was clearly undecided on drawing a charge, or his attempt was to undercut Wade when he sees him coming.

The thing is that Lance was there the whole time. Wade was coming at him and when Lance saw it, he went out of the way. Wade still made sure to him.

Edit: Seriously, why would Lance even try to draw a foul there? He sucks at hitting FTs. It doesn't make sense.

[Sedale Threatt]

So many tears in this thread.

[UnbelievablyRAW]

Shoving a guy to the ground is dirty while not making a play on the ball is dirty.

Hitting a guy on his shoulders as he drives by you is dirty (they called it a flag. on Taj didn't they? Why not be consistent?).

Wade impeded upon Rondo (Who I think is dirty too) from going for a loose ball, the play was unfortunate and unnecessary but it borders on the realm of being dirty. Wade knew what he was doing.

Kicking a guy in the Balls is dirty.

Throwing away a shoe isn't dirty but telling of what kind of player he is.

Running into little Nate R. for no reason is unnecessary and dirty.

All of that is fine if he embraced it. What I can't stand is the hypocrisy that exudes from him. You breathe on him and he falls or complains and will get into your face for minimal contact. If he embraced physical dirty play, good then at least he's consistent. He wants things easy for him, he's a guy out there just looking handouts.

I probably won't care to point this out as much if Wade wasn't considered relevant anymore. But he gets to ride LBJ's penis to relevancy so I guess he has that going for him.

He stretched out his arms and boxed Rondo out to let the ball go out of bounds because Rondo touched it last. Rondo tried to climb over him to save the ball and both of them fell down because of it. Wade didn't pull him down. I don't see how falling down because someone is trying to jump over you is your fault.

He got hit backwards and he balanced himself on one leg to not fall. If not his balls he could have been hit in the knee or something. That one was whatever

He tossed in off the court right in front of the cameramen. The shoe landed literally 3 feet from where it was. It's as dirty as a player passing the ball to a ref after a basket as opposed to letting the other team pick up the ball and inbound it quickly.

He was running to guard the open RIP that was cutting to the basket. Watch the replay

I have to go to a BBQ, but everything sans the rondo one is clearly influenced by your bias. I'm beginning to think you're about as stupid as your avatar.

You can't justify kicking a guy in the nuts, you can't justify unsportsmanship, you can't justify pushing a guy down you can't justify tackling someone in open court even if it is to guard your man.

The only way I think you could find fault in Wade is if he slapped someone you cared about, but even then you find away to say they had it coming.

I laughed at this. Great post

How is Wade tossing his shoe to the baseline a dirty play but an offensive player picking up the ball and passing it to the ref following a made basket to prevent the opposing team from inbounding quickly any different? Both are done to stall the other team

I gave you a possible reason for the foot to the balls. Didn't say it wasn't possible Wade did it on purpose

He ran into Nate because Nate did a jump pass unexpectedly instead of passing it to the open RIP who was running right beside him. That makes more sense to then assuming Wade didn't care about guarding his man but instead wished to run into Nate for no reason

Lay off the estrogen pills bruh, no need to throw insults like a little girl because someone disagrees with you

[UnbelievablyRAW]

So, we have reached the point of blaming the victim now?

Do you think this whole thing would have happened if Lance hadn't stepped in front of him?

Imagine a speeding car approaching a stop sign and just starting to slow down and a teenager decides to play chicken and jump in front of the car. The car swerves to avoid the kid but still hits the kid albeit not head on. Who's fault was it that the kid got hit? The driver? Or the kid jumping in front of the car?

The guy who led with his arm is at fault

What are you even saying?

[UnbelievablyRAW]

My friend, when a certain player has numerous incidents of hitting players out of frustration then he loses the benefit of the doubt. That's the issue here.

The only time I've seen him hit someone out of frustration was the Collison play.

Sessions? RIP?

And RIP too my bad. Sessions one I'm iffy on because I don't see what would provoke him to do that on purpose. I don't just assume people do things like that on purpose with no motive like 99% of GB does

[Thugger HBC]

The Lance is pretty dumb to step in front of a player in near full sprint.

He was clearly undecided on drawing a charge, or his attempt was to undercut Wade when he sees him coming.

The thing is that Lance was there the whole time. Wade was coming at him and when Lance saw it, he went out of the way. Wade still made sure to him.

Edit: Seriously, why would Lance even try to draw a foul there? He sucks at hitting FTs. It doesn't make sense.

Read my post again, it was one or the other.

And why would he be facing Wade when Lance's team is on offense?

[derekc]

Do you think this whole thing would have happened if Lance hadn't stepped in front of him?

Imagine a speeding car approaching a stop sign and just starting to slow down and a teenager decides to play chicken and jump in front of the car. The car swerves to avoid the kid but still hits the kid albeit not head on. Who's fault was it that the kid got hit? The driver? Or the kid jumping in front of the car?

The guy who led with his arm is at fault

What are you even saying?

I'm saying the two are not the same.

[Heat3]

No suspension? Shocked I tell ya...shocked!

If Vogel has any guts, he gets a player off the end of his bench and tells him to flatten Wade next time he tries to come down the lane.

Problem solved, 80's style.

flatten wade = problem solved 80's style
wade flattens someone = dirty/suspend him nba is a joke if they don't

so was nba a joke in the 80's? not sure now. how about LBJ? what he did to nazr that was dirty right? but what nazr did to him wasn't? that was a flop cause he's soft?

what have we learned from this?

miami heat = soft dirty floppers
nba = a joke now cause it lets dirty plays go unlike the 80's when it wasn't a joke cause it let dirty plays go

welcome to the realgm general board

[UnbelievablyRAW]

The guy who led with his arm is at fault

What are you even saying?

I'm saying the two are not the same.

Wade sprinting up the court

Lance steps in the way

Wade jumps to the right of Lance in attempt to avoid him but maintain his momentum up the court

Lance gets hit in the process.

If Lance didn't step in the way the last two points would not have happened and Wade would have continued sprinting up the court to cover. Even if Wade didn't try to jump out of his way, he would have ran right into him and hurt him all the same.

[Nuntius]

The Lance is pretty dumb to step in front of a player in near full sprint.

He was clearly undecided on drawing a charge, or his attempt was to undercut Wade when he sees him coming.

The thing is that Lance was there the whole time. Wade was coming at him and when Lance saw it, he went out of the way. Wade still made sure to him.

Edit: Seriously, why would Lance even try to draw a foul there? He sucks at hitting FTs. It doesn't make sense.

Read my post again, it was one or the other.

And why would he be facing Wade when Lance's team is on offense?

Well, I already explained what it was in my opinion.

Lance had just completed a no-look pass to Paul George and he gets show-boaty after a fancy play. That's all there is to it. I'm not screaming bloody murder about Wade's play but I don't get why Lance gets heat on that.

Nothing would have happen if Wade did the normal thing and didn't hit him in the head.

[twinthunder3]

If this were to occur again/have occurred on a different team with different players with roles reversed, a suspension would have been issued immediately.

[TheFix]

Not even a fine?

The league is buying into its own caricature.

[Nuntius]

Wade sprinting up the court

Lance steps out of the way

Fixed that for you.

[Bucksfans1and2]

If Rondo didn't get hurt, no one would have said anything. I don't even know how Kobe broke his nose there. It didn't even look that hard a foul in the replay. And of course you think he wanted these injuries to happen.Just like the guy who was in here earlier talking about "I hope Wade tears his ACL" Wade just looks for the opportunity to injure people (the Collison hit was the only real malicious thing I've seen).

Did you really compare Wade push, along with Hamilton's rollie pollie act, to Nazr's? Nazr is a much bigger guy than LeBron and what he did was after the whistle. If they called an offensive foul on Hamilton for his elbow, and then Wade pushes him? That's no different than Nazr's and they deserve the same penalty. Albeit I don't think Nazr should have been suspended, but thats up to the NBA. If wade did what I said then they would have had to make the same decision or it wouldn't be fair. Also I love how the video says "where frustration happens". I wouldn't get frustrated if I was winning the damn game. The Bibby shoe throw. You realize they were teammates right? Went to the finals together. The announcers found it funny, as did I. I would do the same to a friend of mine. I wouldn't do it to a stranger though.

1. If you lose your temper and swing on somebody and miss, it's not a big deal. If you lose your temper, swing on somebody and shatter their eye socket, it's a much bigger deal. The intent is the same but the outcome is completely different. Wade tried to bring Rondo to the ground, that's obvious from the video. Bringing somebody to the ground carries with it risk. He placed Rondo in a risky situation that he should never have been in. Because of that, Rondo got hurt. Wade should have faced consequences for that, but he didn't.

2. He swung downward and clipped Kobe on the head. What do you mean you don't know how his nose broke. It's on video. I don't know if this incident was intentional, so I'm going to assume he's innocent just because I can't look at it and say, clearly bush league. It is weird that he randomly decided to start swinging downwards on a dude's head in an all star game. Combine with comments afterwards makes one wonder.

3. The difference between the Lebron shove and the Rip thread are obvious. Rip did nothing wrong, it wasn't even a foul. It was an everyday basketball play. It wasn't like Wade was responding to a bush league hit like Nazr was. Wade got pissed that somebody was playing physical basketball with him and lost his temper. Nazr was pissed because Lebron actually cheap shotted him. It was an unnecessary dirty shove from Mohammed, from Wade it was just random and cheap. There was no reason for it. It was a completely unprovoked cheap shot. That's the definition of dirty.

4. You say in your post that Wade and Mohammad did the exact same thing on their shoves. So how is it that they got different penalties other than that the league is looking out for it's stars?

5. Kicking Sessions wasn't malicious?

Wade really came down on his shoulders to keep him from going up for the layup. He didn't even "come down" on him that hard honestly. If he wanted to go for his head, he could have and it probably would have had a worse result.

Hamilton's elbow didn't provoke Wade?

And I didnt say they did the same thing. I said if Hamilton got a offensive foul for the elbow, and then Wade pushed him, then it would be the same. Point being if you do something like that after the whistle, especially after a call that goes your way, it looks worse.

Kicking Sessions was. My bad, in all my other posts in this thread i've been saying that I can't defend 2 of his occurrences, I forgot to mention Sessions here.

I really don't care about Kobe. I've already said I don't know if it was intentional or not so I really can't say.

Losing your temper and shoving someone is **** regardless of the call that made you lose your temper, for or against you. It's irrelevant. You still can't control yourself like a child and physically lash out. That's what Wade did. At least Mohammad could say that Lebron started it by reacting unnecessarily to an intentional foul. Wade had no provocation what so ever.

If that minimal amount of contact is enough to warrant shoving a guy than there should be a ton of shoving in an NBA game. Players are taught to do that to create space for themselves. That Wade feels he should be above having to suffer through such a move is not Rip Hamilton's fault. It's Wade's fault for being a spoiled priss who lashes out like a child.