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Post#1001 » by Nyce_1 » Mon May 27, 2013 8:28 pm

akhenaten wrote:Do the magic have any pre-draft player workouts or interviews scheduled yet? Surprised we haven't heard anything.

The former Michigan point guard has yet to formally work out for any NBA teams yet, and as of now, he says he's only got one formal individual session scheduled -- with the Orlando Magic, who hold the No. 2 pick in the draft.

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Post#1002 » by rcklsscognition » Mon May 27, 2013 10:16 pm

Right now, we have one workout publicly scheduled, with Angelo Sharpless from Elizabeth City State on June 14th.

Here is a running list of players and their scheduled team workouts.
http://hoopshype.com/workouts.htm

And previous ones:
http://hoopshype.com/past_workouts.htm

In what's probably just a PR move, Noel says he's ahead of schedule and might be ready for the start of the season.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nerlens-noel- ... -of-season
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Post#1003 » by MagicTownBaller » Tue May 28, 2013 12:08 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Right now, we have one workout publicly scheduled, with Angelo Sharpless from Elizabeth City State on June 14th.

Here is a running list of players and their scheduled team workouts.
http://hoopshype.com/workouts.htm

And previous ones:
http://hoopshype.com/past_workouts.htm

In what's probably just a PR move, Noel says he's ahead of schedule and might be ready for the start of the season.

http://www.hoopsworld.com/nerlens-noel- ... -of-season


Elizabeth City State sounds fake.
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Post#1004 » by TheMagicOne » Tue May 28, 2013 1:41 am

I have this feeling if Cleveland keeps their pick, we will end up faced with a decision about drafting Noel. So torn on this, but just analyzing their needs and add to the fact their fan base is hungry for the playoffs, I cannot see them taking any player that wont even play much for them this year. Not to mention they already have Zeller and Thompson as their two big men. Their hole is at the SF position and Porter is the most NBA ready.

Not sure what Rob would do if he is faced with Porter off the board and Noel still available...

Cleveland also has a second first round pick they could use to nab another defensive minded big. But if you listen to their fans, they want Porter and then they want to chase Larry Sanders in free agency if Thompson or Zeller doesn't work out.

I think it will be a tough call for Rob. I will be happy with any of the top players in Porter, McLemore, Burke or even Noel. I can see where you could spin positives on any of those draft picks.
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Post#1005 » by Greenraida » Tue May 28, 2013 1:57 am

if noel drops, we will either nab him, or trade picks for someone else to nab him.
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Post#1006 » by rcklsscognition » Tue May 28, 2013 2:16 am

Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.
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Post#1007 » by tranjSAIC » Tue May 28, 2013 2:19 am

I don't like the Cavs prospects other than Irving, but damn that seems like wayyyyyy over paying. I think #1 and pick of Waiteres or Thompson is fair, but not both.
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Post#1008 » by TheMagicOne » Tue May 28, 2013 2:20 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.

OMG, their fan base would go nuts as this would be the death nail for Noel. Plus they have Hickson, paired with Thompson. No way they would draft Noel. They would probably draft Porter or McLemore.
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Post#1009 » by rcklsscognition » Tue May 28, 2013 2:46 am

TheMagicOne wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.

OMG, their fan base would go nuts as this would be the death nail for Noel. Plus they have Hickson, paired with Thompson. No way they would draft Noel. They would probably draft Porter or McLemore.


Hickson is an unrestricted FA and they're not looking to bring him back. I don't think they'd go with McLemore because they'd have Matthews and Waiters, two good SGs. Maybe Porter I guess but they have Batum.
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Post#1010 » by TheMagicOne » Tue May 28, 2013 3:01 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
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rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.

OMG, their fan base would go nuts as this would be the death nail for Noel. Plus they have Hickson, paired with Thompson. No way they would draft Noel. They would probably draft Porter or McLemore.


Hickson is an unrestricted FA and they're not looking to bring him back. I don't think they'd go with McLemore because they'd have Matthews and Waiters, two good SGs. Maybe Porter I guess but they have Batum.

IMO That is not enough for LA. If they are looking to move him, then we need to get in on that and trade them Harkless, AA and our #2 pick plus the future first we got from the Lakers and a future first from us.
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Post#1011 » by Greenraida » Tue May 28, 2013 3:05 am

I love LA, but I think both of those offers are over paying for him. If i was Portland I take that deal immediately.

Also is now the time to get him for us?
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Post#1012 » by G-Heel » Tue May 28, 2013 3:12 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.


That sounds horrible for Cleveland. Alridge & Irving will probably make the playoffs, but won't do anything else. I'll just stick with the young group. I think #1 pick should be enough for LMA because Blazers need to rebuild also.
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Post#1013 » by rcklsscognition » Tue May 28, 2013 3:15 am

G-Heel wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.


That sounds horrible for Cleveland. Alridge & Irving will probably make the playoffs, but won't do anything else. I'll just stick with the young group. I think #1 pick should be enough for LMA because Blazers need to rebuild also.


If I was Portland, I'd do it in a heartbeat for the #1 and one of either Waiters or Thompson.
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Post#1014 » by cedric76 » Tue May 28, 2013 3:17 am

Please, let's stop dreaming about Wiggins, we won't suck next year, our team won't be a bottom 7 team, so let's focus on the guy we have

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Post#1015 » by meatwad4343 » Tue May 28, 2013 3:49 am

cedric76 wrote:Please, let's stop dreaming about Wiggins, we won't suck next year, our team won't be a bottom 7 team, so let's focus on the guy we have

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you're saying a potential lineup of

jameer
mclemore (not adding affalalo because he'll most likely be gone at some point)
harris/harkless
davis (if he's even here)
vuc

wont be bottom 7? name 7 teams who will be worse than us with that lineup, lol. jameer is another year older, davis is terrible and a black hole, we won't know what we'll get from the rookies, and harris and vuc still have TONS of growing up to do. this teams ceiling next year is 30 wins and thats if EVERYTHING goes right. realistically, we're looking at another 20-25 win year.
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Post#1016 » by magicman123 » Tue May 28, 2013 3:55 am

G-Heel wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Bill Simmons reporting that Cavs are very interested in Lamarcus Aldridge and may be willing to move the #1 pick, Dion Waiters, and Tristan Thompson for LA.

I think the Blazers would be smart to move LA now and start anew. They could get Waiters to solve their 2 guard problem and then nab Noel with the #1. Wonder if their fanbase can stomach drafting another big man with an injury.


That sounds horrible for Cleveland. Alridge & Irving will probably make the playoffs, but won't do anything else. I'll just stick with the young group. I think #1 pick should be enough for LMA because Blazers need to rebuild also.


Not a bad place to Start :wink:

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Post#1017 » by IGotDaMagicInMe » Tue May 28, 2013 4:01 am

meatwad4343 wrote:
cedric76 wrote:Please, let's stop dreaming about Wiggins, we won't suck next year, our team won't be a bottom 7 team, so let's focus on the guy we have

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you're saying a potential lineup of

jameer
mclemore (not adding affalalo because he'll most likely be gone at some point)
harris/harkless
davis (if he's even here)
vuc

wont be bottom 7? name 7 teams who will be worse than us with that lineup, lol. jameer is another year older, davis is terrible and a black hole, we won't know what we'll get from the rookies, and harris and vuc still have TONS of growing up to do. this teams ceiling next year is 30 wins and thats if EVERYTHING goes right. realistically, we're looking at another 20-25 win year.


The Wiggins talk IS way too optimistic though, because even if we are the worst team, thats still only 25% chance, and if we get the pick, by then who knows, wiggins could be in the position Shabazz is in this year
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Post#1018 » by InFlames » Tue May 28, 2013 4:09 am

cedric76 wrote:Please, let's stop dreaming about Wiggins, we won't suck next year, our team won't be a bottom 7 team, so let's focus on the guy we have

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Post#1019 » by Viper1500 » Tue May 28, 2013 4:18 am

cedric76 wrote:Please, let's stop dreaming about Wiggins, we won't suck next year, our team won't be a bottom 7 team, so let's focus on the guy we have

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Care to explain why? I see Charlotte/Orlando/Sac & Phoenix being the bottom 4
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Post#1020 » by NickAnderson » Tue May 28, 2013 4:33 am

We will still suck next year 25 wins max.

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