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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#161 » by Liver_Pooty » Wed May 29, 2013 10:50 pm

Fred Williamson wrote:he's gonna get fired next year anyway


Nah. I think he's a keeper.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#162 » by catch20two » Wed May 29, 2013 11:25 pm

Even if Red Dog disappoints I think he makes it past a year. I don't think he will fail though.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#163 » by fatlever » Wed May 29, 2013 11:54 pm

i think we can all agree that until this team gets some better talent, there is no coach in the world who would look great here.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#164 » by KembaWalker » Wed May 29, 2013 11:59 pm

i was glad he didn't say "uptempo" "attacking defense" etc. he also made a point to say that he knows how to manage practices lengths :lol:

hes definitely not a wordsmith like Dunlap but I think we all need a break from the BS.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#165 » by JMAC3 » Thu May 30, 2013 12:31 am

I heard on him interview on the radio on "The Drive"...

He was talking about how he liked how well Kemba, MKG, and Biz compete, much like he did in his presser today, but he also, spent some time talking about Gerald Henderson, saying he has always admired his game, He talked about his toughness and that he has only began to scratch the surface of what he is capable of.

Sounds like he would like to keep Hendo around, so we may be looking big in the draft, much like what Cho hinted at saying we needed size and rebounding. Interested to see what kind of news comes out front office in the next two weeks.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#166 » by catch20two » Thu May 30, 2013 1:47 pm

I heard his interview on "The Drive" too. Jeff Van Gundy called in and they did their share of catching up. Even though I agree I'm beginning to get a little wary about them talking about size and rebounding because it might turn into Len or Zeller instead of Noel or Bennett.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#167 » by BeesWax » Thu May 30, 2013 1:51 pm

catch20two wrote:I heard his interview on "The Drive" too. Jeff Van Gundy called in and they did their share of catching up. Even though I agree I'm beginning to get a little wary about them talking about size and rebounding because it might turn into Len or Zeller instead of Noel or Bennett.


If Noel is there he fits but I agree on Bennett he does not seem to fit what they are saying. I like Len and think he will be solid but I am not sure he is right at 4.
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Post#168 » by Elden Payton » Thu May 30, 2013 2:20 pm

I'm not sold on the idea that our FO would apparently have some kind of "masterplan" and then just draft whoever the new coach wanted a month out from the draft.

I do believe we drafted Clifford on the potential of what he could do in terms of defense and accelerating Bismack Biyombo's development and it is exciting to hear news of a coach talking about utilising Henderson to his capacity ie what Clifford could do with current personnel as opposed to a particular rookie.

Obviously I want us to go with McLemore if he's available but I really like the idea of trading down for Zeller+assets about now.
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Post#169 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:27 pm

When I listened to the interview, I kept hearing references of a possible addition of an assistant coach by the name of Andy Greer who also coached under Jeff Van Gundy with Tom Thibodeau & Steve Clifford, so I decided to do some research on him.

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Greer is in his first season as assistant coach for the Chicago Bulls (actually 3rd season after being hired by Tom Thibodeau as an assistant on his original staff in 2010) … last season, Greer was a scout for the Portland Trail Blazers primarily responsible for evaluating talent for trades and free agency … he has held three different assistant coaching positions in the NBA, most recently with the Memphis Grizzlies (2007-09), as a member of Marc Iavaroni’s staff … prior to his time with the Grizzlies, Greer spent four seasons with the Houston Rockets (2003-07) under Jeff Van Gundy and two seasons with the New York Knicks (2001-03) under head coach Don Chaney … in addition to his NBA experience, Greer coached at the collegiate level for nearly two decades … he spent four years as head coach at the United States Merchant Marine Academy … Greer also spent four years at Northern Illinois University, where he logged three-and-a-half seasons as an assistant coach and a half-season as the team’s interim head coach … Greer received his first coaching job as an assistant coach at Genesee Community College in 1983 … he also coached collegiately at Mansfield University, Brandeis University, Boston University and the University of Southern California … Greer holds a holds bachelor of science degree in physical education from SUNY-Brockport and a master’s degree in education from Mansfield University … his younger brother, Larry, is an advance scout for the Portland Trail Blazers … Greer and his wife Lesley have a son Zachary and two daughters, Haley and Blake.

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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#170 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 30, 2013 2:31 pm

Sik Infant wrote:Obviously I want us to go with McLemore if he's available but I really like the idea of trading down for Zeller+assets about now.


The last thing Charlotte should do is trade down. Although many consider this a weak draft class, there is more than a couple players within the lottery that have potential to be all-stars. Cho would be wise to try to take advantage of that before exploring options to add depth.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#171 » by Logander » Thu May 30, 2013 3:30 pm

I mean Hendo did have a break out year this year in my opinion. After he got back from that injury he started playing very well and although I know he doesn't have a great three point game I feel as though he has the drive to work hard this off season and develop it more. I know I would love to have McLemore but maybe our FO are looking at next years draft as well, You have Wiggins and Parker who are great shooters, you look a little down the line and see the Harrison brothers who are phenomenal three point shooters. There doesn't seem to many Centers in next years draft and maybe they think we should take the opportunity to grab a big man now rather than later.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#172 » by James Gatz » Thu May 30, 2013 3:45 pm

Wiggins and Parker who are great shooters, you look a little down the line and see the Harrison brothers who are phenomenal three point shooters.


This untrue if you go by their scouting reports.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#173 » by fatlever » Thu May 30, 2013 4:12 pm

more from bonnell on clifford

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... steve.html

and here is the obligatory "we are going to run quote"

We’re going to run – play the quickest tempo you can
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#174 » by Logander » Thu May 30, 2013 4:19 pm

James Gatz wrote:
Wiggins and Parker who are great shooters, you look a little down the line and see the Harrison brothers who are phenomenal three point shooters.


This untrue if you go by their scouting reports.


The scouting reports I've seen have all expressed Andrew Harrisons ability to create his own shot and hit three pointers. Same with Wiggins and Parker.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-wiggins
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jabari-parker
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-harrison
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#175 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 30, 2013 4:22 pm

fatlever wrote:more from bonnell on clifford

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... steve.html

and here is the obligatory "we are going to run quote"

We’re going to run – play the quickest tempo you can


I think it's safe to say that Dunlap lived up to the uptempo billing, being that the focus of the offense was for either Kemba or Sessions to push the ball & attempt to score in transition as much as possible
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#176 » by JMAC3 » Thu May 30, 2013 4:30 pm

fatlever wrote:more from bonnell on clifford

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... steve.html

and here is the obligatory "we are going to run quote"

We’re going to run – play the quickest tempo you can


This encouraging that he seems to better know how to utilize MKG.

“I think he can be an absolute lock-down defender, which is a big deal,” Clifford said, adding Kidd-Gilchrist, 19, potentially can cover shooting guards, small forwards and power forwards.

“Then he can get the ball to the basket – he has a great knack for cutting, which is critical because he’s not a (long-)range shooter yet.

“There are ways he can score we have to investigate. With his quickness, maybe post-ups. Maybe elbow” isolations.

Read more here: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2013/0 ... rylink=cpy
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#177 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu May 30, 2013 4:30 pm

I like the part where Clifford mentioned developing veterans like Gordon & Haywood as well as the young players. I think Dunlap made a huge mistake in team morale & chemistry by alienating the veterans as if they were more of a burden to the team than a part of it. I believe that succumbing to the benefit of the veterans instead of belittling them make it a whole easier to trade them for assets in the future if need be, and it also helps the improvement of the younger players by observing & gaining confidence by learning how to do the right things on the floor another way from correcting failure with experience
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#178 » by fatlever » Thu May 30, 2013 4:35 pm

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Tune in to @SIRIUSXM today to hear Bobcats Head Coach Steve Clifford on the @NBA show (12:40pm) and Schein on Sports (1:30pm)!
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Post#179 » by James Gatz » Thu May 30, 2013 5:46 pm

Logander wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
Wiggins and Parker who are great shooters, you look a little down the line and see the Harrison brothers who are phenomenal three point shooters.


This untrue if you go by their scouting reports.


The scouting reports I've seen have all expressed Andrew Harrisons ability to create his own shot and hit three pointers. Same with Wiggins and Parker.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-wiggins
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jabari-parker
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-harrison


I was more referring to the Harrison brothers. Saying he can hit a shot from 3 is very different from being a phenomenal shooter.

ESPN says this about Andrew

Weaknesses:
To keep defenses honest, especially in the half court set, Harrison needs to become a more consistent 3-point shooter. He can knock down shots at various ranges, but it would benefit him if gets smoother in that area. He sometimes allows his emotions to get to him and thus it causes him to lose concentration at the task at hand. He needs to add a jump stop to avoid charges when he over penetrates.
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Re: Steve Clifford New Bobcats Coach 

Post#180 » by Logander » Thu May 30, 2013 5:59 pm

James Gatz wrote:
Logander wrote:
James Gatz wrote:
This untrue if you go by their scouting reports.


The scouting reports I've seen have all expressed Andrew Harrisons ability to create his own shot and hit three pointers. Same with Wiggins and Parker.

http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-wiggins
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/jabari-parker
http://www.nbadraft.net/players/andrew-harrison


I was more referring to the Harrison brothers. Saying he can hit a shot from 3 is very different from being a phenomenal shooter.

ESPN says this about Andrew

Weaknesses:
To keep defenses honest, especially in the half court set, Harrison needs to become a more consistent 3-point shooter. He can knock down shots at various ranges, but it would benefit him if gets smoother in that area. He sometimes allows his emotions to get to him and thus it causes him to lose concentration at the task at hand. He needs to add a jump stop to avoid charges when he over penetrates.


I have just been following them for sometime now so maybe I'm too overconfident about him. He has a quick Ray Allen esk shot which I think will be great in the nba

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