The Offseason Thread

[_tijo_]

So we apparently would be interested in packing the #4 pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins if the new owners don't want him. Not sure I want him.

Source? Because if that's true, I take it and run. Boogie more talented than anyone in this draft, and we have a coach in place that can relate with players.

[Liver_Pooty]

So we apparently would be interested in packing the #4 pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins if the new owners don't want him. Not sure I want him.

Source? Because if that's true, I take it and run. Boogie more talented than anyone in this draft, and we have a coach in place that can relate with players.

Was on wiretap earlier. Came from Chad Ford.

[mrknowitall215]

So we apparently would be interested in packing the #4 pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins if the new owners don't want him. Not sure I want him.

I don't think there's anyway Cho does that deal. The only way I can envision Cho making a deal for Cousins is if it's at a fire sale price where Sacramento is looking for cap flexibility & they are willing to take Charlotte's owned lightly protected future 1st round picks of Portland & Detroit as fair exchange with a player of need for them on an expiring contract like Ramon Sessions. Otherwise, the thought of Cousins becoming a part of the Bobcats/Hornets is dead on arrival.

[Nanogeek]

So we apparently would be interested in packing the #4 pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins if the new owners don't want him. Not sure I want him.

Source? Because if that's true, I take it and run. Boogie more talented than anyone in this draft, and we have a coach in place that can relate with players.

I don't think Cousins will respond well to being blown out night after night and I think he will be a problematic locker room presence on a team without strong veteran presence. He's definitely a good player but as an overall teammate and franchise addition he would a net subtraction versus adding an Olapido with the #4 pick.

[HornetJail]

So we apparently would be interested in packing the #4 pick to the Kings for DeMarcus Cousins if the new owners don't want him. Not sure I want him.

I don't think there's anyway Cho does that deal. The only way I can envision Cho making a deal for Cousins is if it's at a fire sale price where Sacramento is looking for cap flexibility & they are willing to take Charlotte's owned lightly protected future 1st round picks of Portland & Detroit as fair exchange with a player of need for them on an expiring contract like Ramon Sessions. Otherwise, the thought of Cousins becoming a part of the Bobcats/Hornets is dead on arrival.

So giving up a pick in a garbage draft for a double-double machine with truckloads of potential beyond that, is a terrible deal for us?

[Elden Payton]

With Boogie the negatives outweigh any positives.

[Liver_Pooty]

In ESPNs future power rankings were once again dead last.

"Tanking ain't easy" ought to be the Bobcats' slogan. Their strategy of getting bad before getting good again has proved to be only 50 percent successful, as they've fielded a roster over the past few years that has been too bad.

That's not to say the Bobcats don't have talent: Kemba Walker proved he could score (albeit inefficiently), Gerald Henderson has become a solid wing, 2012 lottery pick Michael Kidd-Gilchrist has a ton of potential and Josh McRoberts made the most of his revival. But none of those players, individually or collectively, are capable of lifting Charlotte from the muck.

The problem is there isn't a whole lot of faith in the soon-to-be-Hornets as an organization, as evidenced by their last-place ranking in Management by the panel. This makes it infinitely harder to attract talent (via free agency) to play in an arena that can be three-quarters empty on some nights and for a team that has had a revolving-door policy for its head coaching position. Even if they could attract players, and although there's cap flexibility moving forward, our panel doesn't believe Michael Jordan, the Bobcats owner, will spend what it takes to for the team to improve.

Charlotte has two future first-round picks coming to them, from the Blazers and Pistons, but they haven't shown the ability to consistently draft well (although Kidd-Gilchrist and Jeff Taylor were both solid picks in 2012). Moreover, they owe Chicago a protected pick (which will become unprotected in 2016). While Bobcats/Hornets fans certainly hope the ship is righted before that pick becomes the disaster it might be, our panel isn't as hopeful.

[Stun704]

In ESPNs future power rankings were once again dead last.

"Tanking ain't easy" ought to be the Bobcats' slogan. Their strategy of getting bad before getting good again has proved to be only 50 percent successful, as they've fielded a roster over the past few years that has been too bad.

That's not to say the Bobcats don't have talent: Kemba Walker proved he could score (albeit inefficiently), Gerald Henderson has become a solid wing, 2012 lottery pick Michael Kidd-Gilchrist has a ton of potential and Josh McRoberts made the most of his revival. But none of those players, individually or collectively, are capable of lifting Charlotte from the muck.

The problem is there isn't a whole lot of faith in the soon-to-be-Hornets as an organization, as evidenced by their last-place ranking in Management by the panel. This makes it infinitely harder to attract talent (via free agency) to play in an arena that can be three-quarters empty on some nights and for a team that has had a revolving-door policy for its head coaching position. Even if they could attract players, and although there's cap flexibility moving forward, our panel doesn't believe Michael Jordan, the Bobcats owner, will spend what it takes to for the team to improve.

Charlotte has two future first-round picks coming to them, from the Blazers and Pistons, but they haven't shown the ability to consistently draft well (although Kidd-Gilchrist and Jeff Taylor were both solid picks in 2012). Moreover, they owe Chicago a protected pick (which will become unprotected in 2016). While Bobcats/Hornets fans certainly hope the ship is righted before that pick becomes the disaster it might be, our panel isn't as hopeful.

ESPN are some cock suckers no way do we have a worse future then the captors, bucks or any mediocre team yet to hit the restart button

[vorbis]

per Woj, Thomas Robinson is probably going to be traded from Houston in an attempt to free cap space to go after Dwight Howard. what year is it again? anyways, might be a good time to snatch him up, if the price is right. he'd certainly get plenty of burn here. Woj says they're looking for a trade exception (check), a draft pick of some sort (check), or some unguaranteed or palatable contracts (maybe not check). be interesting to see how this shakes out.

[catch20two]

It would be awesome if we could absorb Thomas Robinson in exchange for the Portland pick considering that we almost took him with the #2 last year.

[Elden Payton]

I completely agree, if you told us that this exact time a year ago that in a years time we could (potentially) have both Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Thomas Robinson what would everyone say?

[Liver_Pooty]

I completely agree, if you told us that this exact time a year ago that in a years time we could (potentially) have both Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Thomas Robinson what would everyone say?

Ha I was just thinking that.

[BeesWax]

I completely agree, if you told us that this exact time a year ago that in a years time we could (potentially) have both Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Thomas Robinson what would everyone say?

At draft time I would have asked what it would cost us. I am not sure how huge a fan of this I am but it may be worth the risk.

[Elden Payton]

Originally when we had the Portland pick from our perspective it was compensation in a way for having to give up the Chicago pick in 2016, missing a draft pick whilst rebuilding is extremely costly, it's like mortgaging your future for the present, obviously Portland was going in a different direction than us and I actually like the Crash trade in hindsight because it has taken a lot of the worry and out of 2016 and it might happen to land in one of the strongest draft in years.

I believe as soon as we landed the Detroit pick the Portland pick became expendable in a way and the Detroit pick I believe holds more value than our own in 2016, draft picks at this point are kind of meh because we can't tank every year and we need to get out of the rebuild ASAP ie as soon as we think we have the right core to contend going forward, after the 2014 draft we may have a top ten pick at every position from the last four drafts, that is insane.

Time to take a swing for the fences and at the very least Robinson would be the rebounding role player we lack.

[HornetJail]

I completely agree, if you told us that this exact time a year ago that in a years time we could (potentially) have both Michael Kidd-Gilchrist and Thomas Robinson what would everyone say?

At draft time I would have asked what it would cost us. I am not sure how huge a fan of this I am but it may be worth the risk.

I would have assumed we literally traded everyone- Bismack, DJ, Gerald, everyone.