Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

hotrod · Post #21 » by **hotrod** » Mon May 27, 2013 1:17 pm

Zeller should have stayed in school. He did not improve at all in my opinion from last year to this. Tyler is the better Zeller, and I don't like him either. Average NBA big, bench player.

mrknowitall215 · Post #22 » by **mrknowitall215** » Mon May 27, 2013 3:50 pm

Tyler Zeller is not better than Cody Zeller. Cody Zeller may not go on to become a all-star caliber player, but with his skill sets at the position I wouldn't be surprised if he did. I understand why most don't like Zeller for Charlotte in the top 5, but that doesn't mean that he's going to be a average bench big in the NBA. The kid has as much potential as any prospect in the lottery.

Post #23 » by **fatlever** » Thu May 30, 2013 8:58 pm

Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1h

Cody Zeller shooting the ball VERY well. 72% from NBA 3 point line in drills.

Liver_Pooty · Post #24 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:29 pm

fatlever wrote:Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1h

Cody Zeller shooting the ball VERY well. 72% from NBA 3 point line in drills.

Dang. That would be such a nice fit next to Biyombo...

Liver_Pooty · Post #25 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu May 30, 2013 9:30 pm

hotrod wrote:Zeller should have stayed in school. He did not improve at all in my opinion from last year to this. Tyler is the better Zeller, and I don't like him either. Average NBA big, bench player.

Tyler is no where near Codys level..

hotrod · Post #26 » by **hotrod** » Thu May 30, 2013 10:04 pm

Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1h

Cody Zeller shooting the ball VERY well. 72% from NBA 3 point line in drills.

Dang. That would be such a nice fit next to Biyombo...

Byron Mullens can do this also in practice. I watched him do it before most home games. I don't want him either.

Liver_Pooty · Post #27 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Thu May 30, 2013 11:10 pm

hotrod wrote:
Liver_Pooty wrote:
fatlever wrote:Chad Ford ‏@chadfordinsider 1h

Cody Zeller shooting the ball VERY well. 72% from NBA 3 point line in drills.

Dang. That would be such a nice fit next to Biyombo...

Byron Mullens can do this also in practice. I watched him do it before most home games. I don't want him either.

Was waiting for someone go say that

Post #28 » by **Diop** » Fri May 31, 2013 1:57 am

can you have to many white 7 foot three point shooters?'

Can we bring in Brad Lohaus to mentor them?

Post #29 » by **fatlever** » Fri May 31, 2013 5:19 pm

anyone want to paraphrase (not copy and paste of insider stuff) what ford had to say about zeller today?

James Gatz · Post #30 » by **James Gatz** » Fri May 31, 2013 5:35 pm

fatlever wrote:anyone want to paraphrase (not copy and paste of insider stuff) what ford had to say about zeller today?

That he's been working on his guard skills and looks very comfortable handling the ball and shooting 3s. Zeller said he often did these things in high school but the IND coach wanted him the post. He shot 72% from 3 and 80% from the corner. He's even better in the midrange. The article does mention that according to a source the Bobcats are not high on him (possible smokescreen?). Compares him to Bosh and Alridge and points out his wing span and standing reach are not as good but that he posted higher athletic numbers.

EDIT - cant quote insider info. but thanks for the read

- fats

Post #31 » by **fatlever** » Fri May 31, 2013 5:46 pm

i am secretly rooting for zeller. he fits our needs more than anyone in this draft, a power forward, who can score and make jumpers out of the paint and has a high bball IQ. we need a player like that in the worst way. if its true that he is converting his game from a center to a power forward and showing great outside shooting to go along with his speed and touch around the rim, then i agree he is undervalued right now.

James Gatz · Post #32 » by **James Gatz** » Fri May 31, 2013 5:55 pm

fatlever wrote:i am secretly rooting for zeller. he fits our needs more than anyone in this draft, a power forward, who can score and make jumpers out of the paint and has a high bball IQ. we need a player like that in the worst way. if its true that he is converting his game from a center to a power forward and showing great outside shooting to go along with his speed and touch around the rim, then i agree he is undervalued right now.

I'd love to end up with him. Seems like he would be a enjoyable player to watch. Great fit next to Biz.

SWedd523 · Post #33 » by **SWedd523** » Fri May 31, 2013 6:08 pm

fatlever wrote:i am secretly rooting for zeller. he fits our needs more than anyone in this draft, a power forward, who can score and make jumpers out of the paint and has a high bball IQ. we need a player like that in the worst way. if its true that he is converting his game from a center to a power forward and showing great outside shooting to go along with his speed and touch around the rim, then i agree he is undervalued right now.

What he brings to the table is really everything we look for as a rim running big who can score in a variety of ways, but his tendency to struggle against length scares the shiz out of me. I know he's longer than anticipated, but I don't want a PF who has similar length to our (maybe) SG.

Eoghan · Post #34 » by **Eoghan** » Fri May 31, 2013 6:17 pm

He's not what I'm looking for at all. I want a bruiser with a low post game that can rebound and defend.

James Gatz · Post #35 » by **James Gatz** » Fri May 31, 2013 6:18 pm

but his tendency to struggle against length scares the shiz out of me. I know he's longer than anticipated, but I don't want a PF who has similar length to our (maybe) SG.

As a PF his length is more than fine.

mrknowitall215 · Post #36 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri May 31, 2013 6:21 pm

Zeller is a fine basketball player, but I think his hard ceiling is that of a borderline all-star. As regularly as he get his shot blocked in the paint against longer & more physical defenders worry me that he might lose confidence before reaching the matching potential of his skill sets

SWedd523 · Post #37 » by **SWedd523** » Fri May 31, 2013 6:33 pm

James Gatz wrote:
but his tendency to struggle against length scares the shiz out of me. I know he's longer than anticipated, but I don't want a PF who has similar length to our (maybe) SG.

As a PF his length is more than fine.

Really? His length is equal to our SG and shorter than our SF. Doesn't scream "fine" to me.

The guys he's most usually compared to:

Aldridge: 7'5.75"
Bosh: 7'3.5"
Zeller 6'10.75"

Then look at some of the other highly rated guys in this year's draft:

Adams: 7'4.5"
Noel: 7'3.75"
Len: 7'3.5" (unconfirmed)
Otto Porter (SF): 7'1.5"
Bennett: 7'1" (unconfirmed)
Muhammad (SG/SF): 6'11"
Plumlee: 6'11"
Zeller: 6'10.75"

it's undoubtedly an issue folks

Post #38 » by **fatlever** » Fri May 31, 2013 7:27 pm

if zeller had length he'd be in the discussion for the #1 pick. everyone in this draft has huge warts. its a matter of what flaws or negative traits we can live with.

ideal scenario for zeller is a trade down to the 7-9 range and grab him there + extra.

but if the cats arent interested, then moot point i guess. i'm still highly intrigued with bennett as well, but also concerned with his height and stamina.

ohara · Post #39 » by **ohara** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 6:16 pm

I really like Cody if we move back a bit, not at #4. If we do drop back, I would love to have him in Charlotte and use another 1st on a SG. I think Cody would fit out needs nicely on the front line.

Liver_Pooty · Post #40 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 6:36 pm

I wouldn't even mind him at 4 if somehow Oladipo and McLemore are off the board.