The Houston Salary Dump

The Penguin · Post #1 » by **The Penguin** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:18 pm

It's been talked about elsewhere, but it seems to me Houston is the most likely candidate for the next super team. With Harden/Parsons/Montiejunas/Jones/Beverly all young players mostly on cheap contracts the Rockets can be in position to add two max players (CP3-Dwight), if they accomplish one task:

Dump Asik-Robinson-Lin-Delfino-Garcia-White

The Rockets could accomplish this in three different ways:

1) Work sign & trades for the FAs. Problem with this is requiring other teams to participate in handing over their meal tickets. Likely the best outcome for the players, but it involves the most moving pieces.

2) Break up the players and sell as pieces. A big key is dumping the ~9 mil owed Delfino & Garcia, they'd have to be attached to assets like Asik to move. This also requires multiple teams to work deals but could net the best future assets.

3) Good old fashioned salary dump. Find a team (the Pistons) with cap room and able to take on all the contracts. This allows Houston the necessary freedom to sign any two free agents.

On the Pistons side, after an amnesty of CV31 and waiving Stuckey there'd be ~$35 mil in cap room. The Rockets package would be ~$25 mil, leaving ~$10 mil to sign a FA or give in trade. Adding Asik & Robinson to Drummond & Monroe would give the team a loaded young cheap front court, Lin is a piece we could try at pg or ship along with the remaining cap space for a wing, Delfino & Garcia are the tax we take, but they are also needed floor spacers and their deals expire soon.

DetroitSho · Post #2 » by **DetroitSho** » Fri May 31, 2013 1:25 pm

Piston Prince wrote:It's been talked about elsewhere, but it seems to me Houston is the most likely candidate for the next super team. With Harden/Parsons/Montiejunas/Jones/Beverly all young players mostly on cheap contracts the Rockets can be in position to add two max players (CP3-Dwight), if they accomplish one task:

Dump Asik-Robinson-Lin-Delfino-Garcia-White

The Rockets could accomplish this in three different ways:

1) Work sign & trades for the FAs. Problem with this is requiring other teams to participate in handing over their meal tickets. Likely the best outcome for the players, but it involves the most moving pieces.

2) Break up the players and sell as pieces. A big key is dumping the ~9 mil owed Delfino & Garcia, they'd have to be attached to assets like Asik to move. This also requires multiple teams to work deals but could net the best future assets.

3) Good old fashioned salary dump. Find a team (the Pistons) with cap room and able to take on all the contracts. This allows Houston the necessary freedom to sign any two free agents.

On the Pistons side, after an amnesty of CV31 and waiving Stuckey there'd be ~$35 mil in cap room. The Rockets package would be ~$25 mil, leaving ~$10 mil to sign a FA or give in trade. Adding Asik & Robinson to Drummond & Monroe would give the team a loaded young cheap front court, Lin is a piece we could try at pg or ship along with the remaining cap space for a wing, Delfino & Garcia are the tax we take, but they are also needed floor spacers and their deals expire soon.

Just wondering, how is dumping SIX guys ONE task? Any team in the NBA can sign CP3/Dwight if they can get rid of 6 salaries.

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ImHeisenberg · Post #3 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Fri May 31, 2013 1:49 pm

It has been talked about, in the thread directly under this one.

Also, I doubt Houston wants to dump half of its roster to get Paul. Harden is already a terrific ball handler, and they have guys like Lin, and potentially Brooks or Beverly as well. There's really no need.

Pharaoh · Post #4 » by **Pharaoh** » Fri May 31, 2013 2:26 pm

I'll bite:

I'd take Asik, Garcia (expiring) Robinson (youth) and their pick in the 2014 Draft

The Rockets have $45 mil committed for next season...

assume a cap of $60 mil

Taking Asik, Garcia, Robinson and their pick off their hands for "free" knocks their team salary down to $26,837,436

Cap space = $33,162,564.. Dwight and CP3 can split it

CP3/Lin/Beverly/Brooks
Harden
Parsons/Delfino
Motiejunas/Jones
Dwight/Smith

I doubt they'd have trouble attracting veterans to play for the minimum...

ComboGuardCity · Post #5 » by **ComboGuardCity** » Fri May 31, 2013 2:47 pm

ASik will warrant a future pick of his own in any trade.

ImHeisenberg · Post #6 » by **ImHeisenberg** » Fri May 31, 2013 4:05 pm

ComboGuardCity wrote:ASik will warrant a future pick of his own in any trade.

I agree. He probably won't ever make an all-star team, but he's an incredibly solid center. Phenomenal rebounder, has great effort on defense, and plays hard. Maybe too hard, runs himself out of gas.

Goldtop · Post #7 » by **Goldtop** » Fri May 31, 2013 7:01 pm

I dont want Dwight, but we shouldn't be looking to use our capspace helping another team get a superstar. We should be using it to get a superstar ourselves ie going after Paul.

I like the picking Robinson up for nothing idea, as that wouldn't really hinder us from offering Paul a max deal, but no way I'm taking anything else back, especially using big space on Asik to be a backup, when we have other needs still in the starting lineup

Jodi · Post #8 » by **Jodi** » Fri May 31, 2013 7:08 pm

I'm starting to think that Paul and Howard are going the Mavs...Paul and Harden wouldn't be a good fit together...Harden needs the ball in his hands to be successful...Cuban is known around the league to be a big spender, I think he'll persuade Paul and Howard to join forces in Dallas...
Paul
Mayo
??????
Dirk
Howard

DetroitDon15 · Post #9 » by **DetroitDon15** » Fri May 31, 2013 7:31 pm

I can get behind a deal of Garcia, Robinson, Asik, and a lotto protected pick for two second rounders or something k uke Memphis did. We have a stacked front court. I just think asik would have more value than his salary. Anyways I'm down for more you talent and picks. Sign me up.

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vege · Post #10 » by **vege** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 1:10 am

Neither Garcia or Delfino are on the books for Houston.

Garcia has a team option that they stated they will decline. So he EXPIRED already.

Delfino is on a 100% unguaranteed deal that will be waived and they will owe Delfino nothing. So he also already expired.

No one will take on Royce White unless Houston add a HUGE incentive, would probably cost them Harden to get rid of White's 1.7 million guaranteed money. Makes no sense to even discuss a Royce White deal, not going to happen.

This thread makes absolutely no sense at all.

/Close thread.

HotelVitale · Post #11 » by **HotelVitale** » Sun Jun 2, 2013 4:26 am

vege wrote: No one will take on Royce White unless Houston add a HUGE incentive, would probably cost them Harden to get rid of White's 1.7 million guaranteed money. Makes no sense to even discuss a Royce White deal, not going to happen.

Royce White makes $1.65 next season and he can be cut next May. You're right that White is a negative value after his tantrums last year...but I'm pretty sure the going rate for a teeny-tiny expiring contract isn't an All-NBA player!