Bargnani?

[Thugger HBC]

Pharm, so basically you're willing to move a player who probably wont play much, for another who might not play much and isn't even a good player?

[Pharmcat]

Pharm, so basically you're willing to move a player who probably wont play much, for another who might not play much and isn't even a good player?

and when he does play hes a better fit next to tyson and melo, he stretches the floor

as for amare, is he going to need knee debridement surgery every time his knee is "sore".....are you (general not you specific) willing to take that risk? who knows the answer to this question? (i dont think any1 does)

Im not, especially when melo is in his prime

[Pharmcat]

but bargs injuries are not career threatening like amares, his knees have failed him

And even if your questionable logic here is accepted, why the hell would you even want him on the floor?

opens the floor for melo to do his thing and tyson to run the P and R

amare on the floor clogs everything

[CKamm1]

but bargs injuries are not career threatening like amares, his knees have failed him

And even if your questionable logic here is accepted, why the hell would you even want him on the floor?

opens the floor for melo to do his thing and tyson to run the P and R

amare on the floor clogs everything

I'll repeat, the last three seasons his 3 point percentages have been 31, 30, and 35 percent. He does nothing else on the floor but shoot. So how do this help?

[Rasho Brezec]

Amare + Novak dump for Bargnani = good

Amare dump for Bargnani = bad

[Never Wrong]

if they take amare, i'll take back anybody.

[Never Wrong]

Amare + Novak dump for Bargnani = good

Amare dump for Bargnani = bad

20mil paperweight for anything is good.

[Thugger HBC]

Pharm, so basically you're willing to move a player who probably wont play much, for another who might not play much and isn't even a good player?

and when he does play hes a better fit next to tyson and melo, he stretches the floor

as for amare, is he going to need knee debridement surgery every time his knee is "sore".....are you (general not you specific) willing to take that risk? who knows the answer to this question? (i dont think any1 does)

Im not, especially when melo is in his prime

Bargs doesn't do that though.

Do you really think this would be a move that Melo would approve of?

I'm trying to compete for a title and Bargnani walks into the training facility?

[DowNY]

Amare and Novak for Gay and Bargnani

Christ no

I'd do it yesterday.

[DowNY]

Third biggest number 1 draft bust in the last twelve years behind Kwame Brown and Greg Oden.

Sam Bowie?

[CKamm1]

Amare and Novak for Gay and Bargnani

Christ no

I'd do it yesterday.

And how exactly does adding Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani help a team win games?

[CKamm1]

Third biggest number 1 draft bust in the last twelve years behind Kwame Brown and Greg Oden.

Sam Bowie?

"last 12 years"

[DowNY]

Christ no

I'd do it yesterday.

And how exactly does adding Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani help a team win games?

How did Amar'e & Novak help the Knicks win in the playoffs?

[DowNY]

Third biggest number 1 draft bust in the last twelve years behind Kwame Brown and Greg Oden.

Sam Bowie?

"last 12 years"

True. Scanned post, not read it.

[NoLayupRule]

Should we trade Tyson for him + pick?

wow

just wow


Ive seen this board grossly overvalue players on other teams and sickeningly scapegoat our guys but this is epic

tyson is the defensive heart of this team
this team is finally a defensive lock down squad - often they wait until the 4th sadly - for the first time in decades
tyson had multiple 20 rebound games and was an allstar

and here is Bargs who gets bood everytime hes on the floor, who can hardly stay as healthy as stat and who is owned 10 and 11 mil this nad next year

Bargs who plays almost zero defense and just likes to shoot 3s


and somehow you think a pick in a bad draft makes that a good trade???

Sometimes I wish I could revoke the fandom of people with a lower basketball IQ than a cheeseburger

[Rasho Brezec]

Christ no

I'd do it yesterday.

And how exactly does adding Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani help a team win games?

Are you seriously saying two complete non-factors are better than a guy who can create his own shot?

[DowNY]

Should we trade Tyson for him + pick?

wow

just wow


Ive seen this board grossly overvalue players on other teams and sickeningly scapegoat our guys but this is epic

tyson is the defensive heart of this team
this team is finally a defensive lock down squad - often they wait until the 4th sadly - for the first time in decades
tyson had multiple 20 rebound games and was an allstar

and here is Bargs who gets bood everytime hes on the floor, who can hardly stay as healthy as stat and who is owned 10 and 11 mil this nad next year

Bargs who plays almost zero defense and just likes to shoot 3s


and somehow you think a pick in a bad draft makes that a good trade???

Sometimes I wish I could revoke the fandom of people with a lower basketball IQ than a cheeseburger

+1000000

[StephNYKurry]

Christ no

I'd do it yesterday.

And how exactly does adding Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani help a team win games?

Use Rudy Gay as a souped up Wilson Chandler. All the jumpshots Rudy Gay takes that he CAN'T make, would then go to Melo. We'd also be a far better defensive team than we currently are.

There are three levels of defense

Primary Ball Handler
Primary Wing Scorer
Defending the rim

Shump can do both, but which ever one he ISN'T guarding suffers. JR is an average defender against wings when Shump is on the ball and Felton is putrid on the ball when Shump is guarding the wing.

Felton
Shump
Gay
Melo
Chandler

Bargs off the bench with JR. I could get with that.

[CKamm1]

I'd do it yesterday.

And how exactly does adding Rudy Gay and Andrea Bargnani help a team win games?

How did Amar'e & Novak help the Knicks win in the playoffs?

The Amare that we briefly had the middle of this past season would have definitely helped us win. I'll take the potential that we can have that guy, even if the chances are slim, over acquiring two guys that definitely won't do much of anything to help us win.

[CKamm1]

Are you seriously saying two complete non-factors are better than a guy who can create his own shot?

But we don't want the shots that Rudy Gay creates.

I'd rather bet that we can get the Amare we had briefly this past year for an extended period of time. That guy can help.