Hibbert fined $75,000 for saying "No Homo"

finnegan · Post #1 » by **finnegan** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 1:50 pm

Seems to be a severe fine to me, but not sure what other NBA fans feel.

kebutah · Post #2 » by **kebutah** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 2:26 pm

Seems severe especially since it is a $5k fine for flopping which actually impacts the game.

Post #3 » by **StocktonShorts** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 2:51 pm

He also called the press motherf-ers. I'm guessing that had a little something to do with the fine...

Ballstaedt · Post #4 » by **Ballstaedt** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:45 pm

People are taking this way (and I mean WAAYYY) out of proportion. It probably wasn't the smartest thing to say on live television, but I mean come on -- He is just saying he didn't mean anything homosexually related in his comments?? I really don't understand how someone could find that offensive. I'm sure my ignorance is going to make some people mad, and I'm sincerely not trying to, but I just don't understand why saying that his comments had no homosexual connotation is such a bad thing to say??? It seems like anything that isn't pro homosexuality in the media get destroyed. I don't think its right. I can see how he should be chastised for using a slang term on national TV when he represents the NBA, but I just think it is absolutely ridiculous how far this is being taken

countrybama24 · Post #5 » by **countrybama24** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:49 pm

Homo is a slur, regardless of how he intended it. Do I think he's a bad person? Of course not, but on the list of my grievances with the league, being too aggressive tackling homophobia doesn't crack the top 50.

Ballstaedt · Post #6 » by **Ballstaedt** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:54 pm

Maybe I should have been more clear on why I don't think its a big deal. From what I understand, people use the term no homo when they say something that could be construed as having homosexual connotation, and they want to clarify that it doesn't. Unless I am wrong from that assessment, I just don't understand why anyone would take serious offense to that??

And on a more serious not, How was Lebron not fined for his ridiculous flop in game 6?? I am much more offended by that

Post #7 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:56 pm

I find it more immature than offensive, but the league has a financial and marketing investment in being modern and inclusive. It's part of the collective agreement that the league can take the action if it feels that the comments undermine their PR objectives.

Ballstaedt · Post #8 » by **Ballstaedt** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 9:57 pm

countrybama -

Now that you explain that - it makes sense -

I knew Homo was offensive but I just wasn't processing that part - I was more focusing on the no homo term - thanks for clearing that up -

Ballstaedt · Post #9 » by **Ballstaedt** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:01 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote: but the league has a financial and marketing investment in being modern and inclusive.

Great point -

It's a joke that the league is more concerned about their public image than dealing with actual issues (flopping) that are effecting and tarnishing the game (agreeing with what was said earlier).

I am starting to feel like I am watching soccer with some of these flops - It needs to be taken care of because flopping has completely ruined soccer

BarneyGumble · Post #10 » by **BarneyGumble** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:09 pm

The fine was necessary. The direction this league is heading...pretty soon the only fans left will be the...

Ill just stop right there

finnegan · Post #11 » by **finnegan** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:09 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:I find it more immature than offensive, but the league has a financial and marketing investment in being modern and inclusive. It's part of the collective agreement that the league can take the action if it feels that the comments undermine their PR objectives.

But I'm pretty sure that the majority of fans don't find the statement "exclusive" in any way. As Balstaedt pointed out "no homo" is pretty common slang, which people use to say "that's not me -- I am 100% straight."

The only reason it undermines the NBA's PR objectives is because of a small outspoken minority who makes it sound much worse than it is.

If there were an objective way to validate, I would wager $100 that both the Pacers staff and Roy Hibbert were having a serious chuckle as he penned his apology, just like Blake Shelton did.

Ballstaedt · Post #12 » by **Ballstaedt** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:17 pm

finnegan wrote: I would wager $100 that both the Pacers staff and Roy Hibbert were having a serious chuckle as he penned his apology, just like Blake Shelton did.

seriously. His apology was so fake that I had a hard time not laughing myself

Post #13 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:22 pm

finnegan wrote:
DelaneyRudd wrote:I find it more immature than offensive, but the league has a financial and marketing investment in being modern and inclusive. It's part of the collective agreement that the league can take the action if it feels that the comments undermine their PR objectives.

But I'm pretty sure that the majority of fans don't find the statement "exclusive" in any way. As Balstaedt pointed out "no homo" is pretty common slang, which people use to say "that's not me -- I am 100% straight."

The only reason it undermines the NBA's PR objectives is because of a small outspoken minority who makes it sound much worse than it is.

If there were an objective way to validate, I would wager $100 that both the Pacers staff and Roy Hibbert were having a serious chuckle as he penned his apology, just like Blake Shelton did.

No, it's bad. It's just not offensive. It makes the person who speaks it look like they have low self confidence.

Reckless · Post #14 » by **Reckless** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:27 pm

It was a incredibly stupid thing to say regardless of what you think about it some people will find it offensive. think if lebron said it, the media reaction to it. it's unacceptable. the 5k fine for flopping is a joke though, they need to make that at least 25k and consider 1 game suspensions depending on how bad the flop is.

Post #15 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 10:30 pm

In regards to flopping it's low because they wanted to make sure the fines were being accurately given out for real flops. They also hoped just the notoriety of making a chump move would be enough.

finnegan · Post #16 » by **finnegan** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 11:06 pm

DelaneyRudd wrote:
finnegan wrote:
DelaneyRudd wrote:I find it more immature than offensive, but the league has a financial and marketing investment in being modern and inclusive. It's part of the collective agreement that the league can take the action if it feels that the comments undermine their PR objectives.

But I'm pretty sure that the majority of fans don't find the statement "exclusive" in any way. As Balstaedt pointed out "no homo" is pretty common slang, which people use to say "that's not me -- I am 100% straight."

The only reason it undermines the NBA's PR objectives is because of a small outspoken minority who makes it sound much worse than it is.

If there were an objective way to validate, I would wager $100 that both the Pacers staff and Roy Hibbert were having a serious chuckle as he penned his apology, just like Blake Shelton did.

No, it's bad. It's just not offensive. It makes the person who speaks it look like they have low self confidence.

I say this with all due respect to the gay community -- but they are the ones with the seeming self esteem crisis. Why do they yearn so badly to have their private behavior publicly accepted. Just keep it private and do what ever they want as long as it is not illegal. Why do they want to change my natural reaction (gag reflex) to their private behavior and to try to force me to declare it as acceptable.

Now we are in a place where a lot of straight people don't say anything and chuckle a lot in private, is that really that much better that being able to examine and discuss differences? "He who is forced against his will, is of the same opinion still," so what good does it do for them to silence people like Roy Hibbert? Is that the type of acceptance that the really want?

The59Sound · Post #17 » by **The59Sound** » Mon Jun 3, 2013 11:19 pm

Yeah, self-esteem issues pop up sometimes for a population when whack jobs call them deviants and persecute them for perfectly natural behavior for 2,000 years.

king everything · Post #18 » by **king everything** » Tue Jun 4, 2013 12:06 am

I understand the fine on a corporate business level, (let's not forget the mothereffers he also dropped) but the pussification of America is getting out of hand.

Post #19 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Tue Jun 4, 2013 12:19 am

The only thing as obnoxious as overly sensitive PC complainers is people who whine about obnoxious overly sensitive PC whiners. There's a middle ground here as we don't need to feel like every insensitive remark is a hate crime and we can understand that language evolves and being a dick just to be a dick makes you a dick.

finnegan · Post #20 » by **finnegan** » Tue Jun 4, 2013 12:34 am

On a local note, I thought that yesterdays news was pretty interesting;

http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&si ... st_popular

The Mormon Church's position is that same gender attraction is not a sin but acting on it is. So I wonder where they draw the line on Grayson Moore, who had surgery to become a boy. That clearly seems to cross the line of "acting on it" to me.

We judge tons of people everyday, so I don't want to hear any malarky about not being judgmental. When you listen to Neca Allgood speak about her daughter/son, is your impression that she has reach a higher state of self actualization, or that she is so confused that she doesn't know which way is up.

Grayson Moore will never be able to bear children. She/he will never have a normal Mormon marriage, nor be permitted to serve a mission. So much to sacrifice just so she/he will have the shell of a male, and have the public treat her/him like a male. I just don't get why someone would sacrifice so much for so little benefit.

Are the NBA's fine amounts for gay comments excessive?