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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#621 » by McGully Culkin » Wed Jun 5, 2013 5:25 pm

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McGully Culkin wrote:GoG - check this out:

Spoiler:
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5w2T6yqPRk[/youtube]


the instance I'm talking about starts at :22


That play was impressive. :eek2:

His first step to grab that ball was lighting quick.


The talent/potential is there. I do get the red-flags....but if he pans out, we could be looking at a future all-star in this league. He's an absolutely dynamic scorer.

Honestly, I think this team is in a good place (structurally). What I mean by that is if we were looking to draft Bennett 3-4 years ago, he would probably fall victim to the foolishness that went on behind the scenes and on the court.

There is enough stability on this roster that these guys wouldn't accept anyone not giving their all. He would be held accountable and would undoubtedly fall in line.

We're in such a great spot at #3. Having the REAL possibility of having either Porter/Bennett is amazing. This could be a landmark pick for us in that we could have a player that is one of the final pieces of a LONG re-build. I get there is still a ways to go, but this season (to me) is playoffs or bust.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#622 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Jun 5, 2013 5:26 pm

sfam wrote:
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AFM wrote:Look at the handle on the big guy.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZG7iPlKXA[/youtube]


I don't like this play for 3 reasons.
He ignores the streaker and denies the outlet pass.
That dribble drive would get denied by most NBA athletes.
That kind of selfish move screams Andray Blatche to me.


Dude, the outlet pass was covered - it would have been swatted away. And Bennett has more than enough speed to do this in the NBA. But the Blatche reference? Gimme a break. Haters are just gonna hate on Bennett I guess. I'm guessing he has a rockin career in the nba, whether or now we draft him.


Comon sfam, you should know better. I'm not hating on Bennett at all. I've been pretty reserved with my judgments about him because, TBH, I cant make up my mind about him.

On second look that outlet pass was covered. I'll give you that but I'm still not sure, he would be able to finish that play consistently in the NBA. And we'll have to agree to disagree on that Andray reference.. but to me, an iso crossover move with 2 set defenders on the strong side, is something we saw Dray do far too often.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#623 » by Dat2U » Wed Jun 5, 2013 5:31 pm

Deeptu McPullup wrote:^ Bennet definitely flash the Blatche, 'splay the Dray and might go full engulfed in Baltche from time to time.

Not selfish so much as doesn't know better.


Agreed, I've never really questioned his attitude. I have no idea about that. But what I do get is that he's a bit immature, really still a kid at heart. I do worry about how serious he is, especially considering his effort on defense last year but I definitely don't think he's a bad kid.

My opinion on drafting him won't change however until I get some clarity on his standing reach.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#624 » by Deeptu McPullup » Wed Jun 5, 2013 5:45 pm

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Deeptu McPullup wrote:^ Bennet definitely flash the Blatche, 'splay the Dray and might go full engulfed in Baltche from time to time.

Not selfish so much as doesn't know better.


Agreed, I've never really questioned his attitude. I have no idea about that. But what I do get is that he's a bit immature, really still a kid at heart. I do worry about how serious he is, especially considering his effort on defense last year but I definitely don't think he's a bad kid.

My opinion on drafting him won't change however until I get some clarity on his standing reach.


Yeah, if there's any "character issues" it's probably more just that he might be the happy-go-lucky 'having fun out here playing basketball with my friends' type of guy. He's easy to get along with and well mannered by all accounts that I've heard.

Probably the whole intangibles situation is some good, some bad with the bad not being the sorts of things you would hold against anyone who you weren't thinking about picking 3rd in the NBA draft.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#625 » by sfam » Wed Jun 5, 2013 5:50 pm

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sfam wrote:
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I don't like this play for 3 reasons.
He ignores the streaker and denies the outlet pass.
That dribble drive would get denied by most NBA athletes.
That kind of selfish move screams Andray Blatche to me.


Dude, the outlet pass was covered - it would have been swatted away. And Bennett has more than enough speed to do this in the NBA. But the Blatche reference? Gimme a break. Haters are just gonna hate on Bennett I guess. I'm guessing he has a rockin career in the nba, whether or now we draft him.


Comon sfam, you should know better. I'm not hating on Bennett at all. I've been pretty reserved with my judgments about him because, TBH, I cant make up my mind about him.

On second look that outlet pass was covered. I'll give you that but I'm still not sure, he would be able to finish that play consistently in the NBA. And we'll have to agree to disagree on that Andray reference.. but to me, an iso crossover move with 2 set defenders on the strong side, is something we saw Dray do far too often.

The Dray reference, which has been used more than once here regarding Bennett, has also been about his supposedly questionable character. Funny thing though, aside for some lapses on D there is absolutely nothing questionable about his character. At all. No history of law violations, coach problems, inappropriate comments or whatnot. I really don'tt get where this meme started, but if we draft Bennett, we don't need to worry about the improved character of the team to keep Bennett from turning into blatche. That's all just made up.

Edit: regarding the crossover move, you could've just as easily used melo for your bad example. It wouldn't have carried the Blatche baggage. I would point out that Bennett was more efficient than melo - his stats don't show a dude who carelessly turns over the ball on stupid plays. Instead it shows someone hyper-efficient for a 19 year old.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#626 » by WizarDynasty » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:01 pm

Compare Bennett to Blatche is off.

My four criteria for evaluating Blatche on a pyramid base. I am not even going to evaluate the higher levels. He didn't qualify for Wizard material meeting 2 of three criteria.
Blatche was not explosive athlete number one. He showed quickness but he wasn't explosive. Blatche had to gather himself to make an explosive movement. he was quick but he didn't have the combination of power and quickness which equals explosive.
2. Blatche did not show consistent ability to finish through contact. In fact he was horrible and very inconsistent finishing through contact.

That immediately disqualifies him from being Wizard material high in the lottery.
3. Blatche displayed above average body control with the basketball so he only meets 1 out of 3.

and now the category that especially applies to bigmen, Blatche absolutely didn't not display elite lower body strength. You rarely saw him move other big bodies around using only his lower body and hips.

Bennett--definitely is explosive even though he is 6'5 without shoes with long arms.
2. Bennett absolutely shows elite body control with the basketball.
3. Bennett absolutely shows consistent ability to finish through contact even without refs blowing whistle.
3 out of 3.
Bennett absolutely shows great lower body strength rebounding.

Bennett meets the bottom threshold for wizard player.
Now we move to 2nd level of pyramid---standing reach, wingspan, does the player dominate at the basics stat categories for his position against amateurs. it was hard to evaluate with blatche because he didn't play college basketball but we wouldn't have gotten this far because we would have saw at least 30 games of Blatche going against college level competition to see that he wasn't explosive...quick but not explosive...to different attributes. We would have saw that he couldn't finish consistently through body contact against other amateurs. he gradually got better but definitely not above average.
3. We would have probably saw above average body control with the basketball.

But blatche has never had elite lower body strength.

Bennett begins to break down in the second level of the pyramid and definitely the third level.
He isn't a rim protector--but if he plays a carmelo anthony or lebron james type roll where he bounces between the 3 and 4 based on match up. It's not that big of a deal.
Blatche doesn't make it out of the first level of the pyramid for the physical attributes needed for wizard material.
He qualifies in the second level with his height, and wingspan, but height and wingspan are less important than....explosiveness, body control with the basketball, and ability to consistently finish through contact...and for bigman..which blatche definitely is since he can't play small forward..and bennett can...is lower body strength.
It's pretty evident that Bennett has alot more lower body strength than Blatche. So there you have it.
Now if we were drafting blatche to be a backup big in the 2nd round, he was great value but paying blatche starter salary...when he was missing the raw elements needed to be a wizard starter, is recipe for disaster. We built Blatche up to be the best he could be mentally, but sculpting a player missing 2 of the three physical elements of a wizard starter means that even after developing that player..he is inherently flawed if paying him a starter salary.
That's the problem with Porter. He fails on 2 of the three attributes.
He isn't explosive. He doesn't demonstrate consistent ability to finish through contact. He shows pretty good body control with the basketball.
He isn't a bigman so are not as worried about his lower body strength.
Even if we develop porter to his maximum potential, he will never have the explosiveness to create during clutch. If he doesn't show consistent ability to finish through contact at college, he isn't going to show it during the pro's. And he shows decent but not great body control with the basketball. He isn't elite at dribbling, he doesn't show the body coordination to consistently draw fouls and get to the free throw line one on one.
Two things you need to create...explosive first step..not quick just quick...you need quick and powerful first step...that attributes automatically forces the defense to collapse because a player can get by his man with a pump fake. If you don't have explosive first step, you can't get by your man with a pump fake.
Secondly, if you have consistenly shown the ability to finish through contact, meaning you can absorb shoves and nudges like "Derrick Rose" and still score. There are alot of perimeters players who showed the ability to absorb contact on the drive and still score even when the ref doesn't call the whistle. I don't see alot of it from porter. Most of the time, he scores going to the basket with nobody between him and the basket. Rarely do I see him challenge a bigman and still score. That is a special trait to have. Bennett shows it all the time and Shabazz show it all the time.
Finally, above average body control you usually see on the break. I see a few times where porter will do a nice eurostep and extend the ball away from his body to do an under the rim finish but only on fast breaks, never in a half court settings. Most of what he does are quick pullups. Very Finesse player but a finesse player without explosiveness is the definition of andre blatche and javale mcgee.
Hopefully grunfeld has learned his lesson to stay away from these types of players. You want a player who has a combination of quickness and power. meaning he is quick but also has serious force generated on his first step..and explodes off the ground...not a quick player who is a "slow" jumper.
quick leapers...equal explosive leaper. Adams is a quick leaper.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#627 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:01 pm

TGW wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpjvo-BI10A[/youtube]

Gobert really moves well for a 7'2 guy.

I really think we need to sacrifice the 2014 pick to get one of these 7 footers because Gobert, Adams, Zeller, Olynyk, Dieng, and Len all look like legitimate bigs who can play at a high level. I love the potential of Adams, Len and Gobert, and I love the fact Dieng, Zeller, and Olynyk can step in immediately and contribute.

2014 may have three hyped prospects, but outside of those 3, that draft is pretty much as weak as this one near the bottom of the lottery (McGary projected in the lottery—nuff said). If we want to strike on a young 7 footer, this is the year.

One thing's for sure, Gobert>>>>>>>>>Vesely. We NEED to grab one of these 7 footers!
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#628 » by sfam » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:12 pm

DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
TGW wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpjvo-BI10A[/youtube]

Gobert really moves well for a 7'2 guy.

I really think we need to sacrifice the 2014 pick to get one of these 7 footers because Gobert, Adams, Zeller, Olynyk, Dieng, and Len all look like legitimate bigs who can play at a high level. I love the potential of Adams, Len and Gobert, and I love the fact Dieng, Zeller, and Olynyk can step in immediately and contribute.

2014 may have three hyped prospects, but outside of those 3, that draft is pretty much as weak as this one near the bottom of the lottery (McGary projected in the lottery—nuff said). If we want to strike on a young 7 footer, this is the year.

One thing's for sure, Gobert>>>>>>>>>Vesely. We NEED to grab one of these 7 footers!


Gobert is better than Vesely???? Sign me up!
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#629 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:14 pm

sfam wrote:The Dray reference, which has been used more than once here regarding Bennett, has also been about his supposedly questionable character. Funny thing though, aside for some lapses on D there is absolutely nothing questionable about his character. At all. No history of law violations, coach problems, inappropriate comments or whatnot. I really don'tt get where this meme started, but if we draft Bennett, we don't need to worry about the improved character of the team to keep Bennett from turning into blatche. That's all just made up.
Edit: regarding the crossover move, you could've just as easily used melo for your bad example. It wouldn't have carried the Blatche baggage. I would point out that Bennett was more efficient than melo - his stats don't show a dude who carelessly turns over the ball on stupid plays. Instead it shows someone hyper-efficient for a 19 year old.


We'll I was referring to this one play on the court. I even pointed to the play specifically. I don't know how character issues are even relavent to my statement. I suppose I can't control how you inferred it but all I'm saying is that basketball move reminded me of dray.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#630 » by sfam » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:18 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
sfam wrote:The Dray reference, which has been used more than once here regarding Bennett, has also been about his supposedly questionable character. Funny thing though, aside for some lapses on D there is absolutely nothing questionable about his character. At all. No history of law violations, coach problems, inappropriate comments or whatnot. I really don'tt get where this meme started, but if we draft Bennett, we don't need to worry about the improved character of the team to keep Bennett from turning into blatche. That's all just made up.
Edit: regarding the crossover move, you could've just as easily used melo for your bad example. It wouldn't have carried the Blatche baggage. I would point out that Bennett was more efficient than melo - his stats don't show a dude who carelessly turns over the ball on stupid plays. Instead it shows someone hyper-efficient for a 19 year old.


We'll I was referring to this one play on the court. I even pointed to the play specifically. I don't know how character issues are even relavent to my statement. I suppose I can't control how you inferred it but all I'm saying is that basketball move reminded me of dray.

Apologies, I was making a broader point to the use of Dray as Bennett's comparison. Dray has been used as a character comparison to Bennett more than once, hence the spate of posts wondering if our team can survive a borderline knucklehead like Bennett.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#631 » by pancakes3 » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:20 pm

sfam wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:
AFM wrote:Look at the handle on the big guy.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZG7iPlKXA[/youtube]


I don't like this play for 3 reasons.
He ignores the streaker and denies the outlet pass.
That dribble drive would get denied by most NBA athletes.
That kind of selfish move screams Andray Blatche to me.


Dude, the outlet pass was covered - it would have been swatted away. And Bennett has more than enough speed to do this in the NBA. But the Blatche reference? Gimme a break. Haters are just gonna hate on Bennett I guess. I'm guessing he has a rockin career in the nba, whether or not we draft him.


It's a good play by Bennett but it's hardly a great play. The turnover there was more due to Hairston being lazy/dumb than Bennett being a great defender. Even more - Bennett got super lucky. He was out of position on that play. His man was setting a down screen. If Hairston had used the pick and went to the 3 point line, he'd be wide open for a 3. If Hairston had cut hard baseline, he would have beaten Bennett to the spot and drawn a foul.

The rest of the sequence was good - but as someone mentioned, it was a delayed break and really he just broke McAdoo off the dribble and laid it in over a 9mpg guy in "Desmond Hubert".
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#632 » by Zonkerbl » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:22 pm

Hm. Bennett may be a wonderful, sweet kid. So is Nick Young. That doesn't give him any bbiq. So when people tell him to do stuff, he won't refuse because he's a jerk. That's nice -- and completely irrelevant. The question is, will he not be *able* to do it because he has low bbiq? Dennis Rodman was arguably the world's BIGGEST jerk, and yet he had a pretty good bbiq, wouldn't you say? Character has nothing at all to do with it.

I am certainly not arguing that Bennett is a bad guy, or lazy. I think it's safe to say that Bennett will be a hard worker that everybody loves. So was Arenas (sort of). Arenas worked his butt off -- but you have to work SMART and THAT'S THE ISSUE. Not, is he a jerk? Or is he lazy? The question is, can he play Ph.D. level NBA defense? Still haven't seen anything to explain why his defense was so lousy at UNLV. It's one thing to play defense but not with all out effort, because you're saving your energy for the offensive side. It's another to stand there and watch a guy and not even pretend to move a finger to stop him. Ok, let's argue for the moment that it has nothing to do with not sticking up for your teammates. It's got nothing to do with laziness. WHAT IS IT THEN?

If we draft Bennett, I am pretty sure he will be one of those guys who just doesn't play defense, like Zach Randolph. Or Melo. There are a ton of guys like that in the NBA who make a ton of money because you get paid for offense. And yet their teams are never all that successful.

I am sure Bennett is a sweet guy and a hard worker. And maybe EG will do his due diligence and discover that Bennett's nonexistent defense had some perfectly rational explanation and Bennett will become a world beater defensive talent, despite only being 6'7" without shoes. I'm not privy to that information, and based on the info I do have I don't want him. Plus he has had a lot of injuries.

Porter would be a good fit, as would Zeller.

If we draft Bennett I will hold my tongue and give him a chance. But if it turns out he simply doesn't have the bbiq to play defense, and Zeller turns out to be the player his stats suggest he could be, and/or Porter does as well as he is supposed to, I will be pretty bitter.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#633 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:27 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
AFM wrote:Look at the handle on the big guy.
[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qzZG7iPlKXA[/youtube]


I don't like this play for 3 reasons.
He ignores the streaker and denies the outlet pass.
That dribble drive would get denied by most NBA athletes.
That kind of selfish move screams Andray Blatche to me.

He was blocked off by McAdoo...any attempted pass would have resulted in a turnover...he made the right play, because he trusted his handles!
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Post#634 » by GhostsOfGil » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:32 pm

sfam wrote:Apologies, I was making a broader point to the use of Dray as Bennett's comparison. Dray has been used as a character comparison to Bennett more than once, hence the spate of posts wondering if our team can survive a borderline knucklehead like Bennett.


No worries and TBH, I'm not even worried about his defensive focus. Obviously, if he is indeed undersized then... well ****... but with our team's defense first attitude, I have a feeling playing behind 3 defensive specialists in Ariza, Nene, and Okafor will really help him.

Right now, my ONLY concern about Bennett is his injury history. Just iffy about adding an injury prone player to an injury prone team.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#635 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:35 pm

McGully Culkin wrote:
AFM wrote:Look at the handle on the big guy.


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I also loved his handle in the UNLV/Cal clips. There was one instance where he stole the ball in the paint and brought the ball up the court quickly. Even switched hands to avoid a defender at one point. He then gave the ball up to the PG and proceeded on a 2 on 1. Dude ran HARD to the rack and got the ball back for an easy dunk.

His mobility/athleticism is ridiculous for a guy of his size. With the right NBA conditioning, he can become chiseled.

I love Porter, but I wouldn't be saddened in the least if we drafted Bennett.

*edit*

GoG - check this out:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r5w2T6yqPRk[/youtube]

the instance I'm talking about starts at :22

I also like how he goes up to finish around the rim with both hands. Could he be the anti-Seraphin?
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#636 » by sfam » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:37 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
sfam wrote:Apologies, I was making a broader point to the use of Dray as Bennett's comparison. Dray has been used as a character comparison to Bennett more than once, hence the spate of posts wondering if our team can survive a borderline knucklehead like Bennett.


No worries and TBH, I'm not even worried about his defensive focus. Obviously, if he is indeed undersized then... well ****... but with our team's defense first attitude, I have a feeling playing behind 3 defensive specialists in Ariza, Nene, and Okafor will really help him.

Right now, my ONLY concern about Bennett is his injury history. Just iffy about adding an injury prone player to an injury prone team.

Understand. Both Bennett's injuries and D effort are valid concerns, and are certainly good reasons to pick Porter or Zeller over him. But if these check out, I just think Bennett could be a star, which the offensively challenged Wizards could use.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#637 » by Dat2U » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:38 pm

GhostsOfGil wrote:
sfam wrote:Apologies, I was making a broader point to the use of Dray as Bennett's comparison. Dray has been used as a character comparison to Bennett more than once, hence the spate of posts wondering if our team can survive a borderline knucklehead like Bennett.


No worries and TBH, I'm not even worried about his defensive focus. Obviously, if he is indeed undersized then... well ****... but with our team's defense first attitude, I have a feeling playing behind 3 defensive specialists in Ariza, Nene, and Okafor will really help him.

Right now, my ONLY concern about Bennett is his injury history. Just iffy about adding an injury prone player to an injury prone team.


I don't know how defense is not a concern. Being around defensive guys doesn't make one a good defender. If Bennett is Antawn Jamison bad on defense, nothing is hiding that. And looking at what he did in college, he gave a very Antawn Jamison like effort on defense. That gives me great reason for concern.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#638 » by DANNYLANDOVER » Wed Jun 5, 2013 6:40 pm

sfam wrote:
DANNYLANDOVER wrote:
TGW wrote:[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xpjvo-BI10A[/youtube]

Gobert really moves well for a 7'2 guy.

I really think we need to sacrifice the 2014 pick to get one of these 7 footers because Gobert, Adams, Zeller, Olynyk, Dieng, and Len all look like legitimate bigs who can play at a high level. I love the potential of Adams, Len and Gobert, and I love the fact Dieng, Zeller, and Olynyk can step in immediately and contribute.

2014 may have three hyped prospects, but outside of those 3, that draft is pretty much as weak as this one near the bottom of the lottery (McGary projected in the lottery—nuff said). If we want to strike on a young 7 footer, this is the year.

One thing's for sure, Gobert>>>>>>>>>Vesely. We NEED to grab one of these 7 footers!


Gobert is better than Vesely???? Sign me up!

LOL that's all I neede to know. Based on what I've read from posters on here, I thought he had no clue what to do with a round ball.
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#639 » by Jay81 » Wed Jun 5, 2013 7:00 pm

i was in the mindset of never giving up our 1st pick next year but now i think we should trade it way...maybe throw in 2nds and a player(vesley) and try to get another top 10 pick in this draft. I am starting to think that if we are healthy, our first round pick wont have great value next year and a GM might bite at "getting the wizards first rounder next year" because its the wizards and the draft is considered strong by many
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Re: Official 2013 Draft Thread - Part VI 

Post#640 » by sfam » Wed Jun 5, 2013 7:12 pm

Dat2U wrote:
GhostsOfGil wrote:
sfam wrote:Apologies, I was making a broader point to the use of Dray as Bennett's comparison. Dray has been used as a character comparison to Bennett more than once, hence the spate of posts wondering if our team can survive a borderline knucklehead like Bennett.


No worries and TBH, I'm not even worried about his defensive focus. Obviously, if he is indeed undersized then... well ****... but with our team's defense first attitude, I have a feeling playing behind 3 defensive specialists in Ariza, Nene, and Okafor will really help him.

Right now, my ONLY concern about Bennett is his injury history. Just iffy about adding an injury prone player to an injury prone team.


I don't know how defense is not a concern. Being around defensive guys doesn't make one a good defender. If Bennett is Antawn Jamison bad on defense, nothing is hiding that. And looking at what he did in college, he gave a very Antawn Jamison like effort on defense. That gives me great reason for concern.
His blocks per game were lots higher than Jamison. Granted, the sales pitch that he's better than Jamison is similar to saying Gobert is better than Vesely.

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