Dennis Schr

[Winglish]

I like the Rondo comparison in length, quickness, defensive presence, and passing. The one thing Rondo can do that Schroder cannot is elevate over just about everybody on his way to the rack. Rondo's hops are out of this world, while one of the knocks on Schroder is that he mostly finishes below the rim. Rondo's ability to finish on top of people puts him in a higher tier of players that I don't think Schroder will quite reach.

That said, I really like all of those other similarities to Rondo that Schroder has and I think he will be a good player in the NBA. I'd like to see the Jazz take Schroder at #14.

[ManualRam]

I like the Rondo comparison in length, quickness, defensive presence, and passing. The one thing Rondo can do that Schroder cannot is elevate over just about everybody on his way to the rack. Rondo's hops are out of this world, while one of the knocks on Schroder is that he mostly finishes below the rim. Rondo's ability to finish on top of people puts him in a higher tier of players that I don't think Schroder will quite reach.

wait a second. you're talking about rondo here? hes not an explosive finisher.
rondo rarely dunks or finishes on top of people. he's a below the rim finisher too. he is however a very creative finisher with tremendous ball control (huge hands), extension and creativity (knows how to freeze defenders with ball fakes and use different spins off the glass).

[Winglish]

wait a second. you're talking about rondo here? hes not an explosive finisher.
rondo rarely dunks or finishes on top of people. he's a below the rim finisher too. he is however a very creative finisher with tremendous ball control (huge hands), extension and creativity (knows how to freeze defenders with ball fakes and use different spins off the glass).

Time and injury have changed Rondo a little bit. He's not quite the player he once was athletically. Sometimes we forget what once was. Watch this and remember what Rondo was coming into the draft:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXHr58aRJE

You're right that Rondo almost never dunks anymore and his finishing around the rim is highly creative. In fact, creativity with the ball is what makes Rondo who he is.

[ManualRam]

wait a second. you're talking about rondo here? hes not an explosive finisher.
rondo rarely dunks or finishes on top of people. he's a below the rim finisher too. he is however a very creative finisher with tremendous ball control (huge hands), extension and creativity (knows how to freeze defenders with ball fakes and use different spins off the glass).

Time and injury have changed Rondo a little bit. He's not quite the player he once was athletically. Sometimes we forget what once was. Watch this and remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXHr58aRJE

he's 27 yrs old. he's never been a big in game dunker or someone who consistently finished above the rim.

his dunk attempts per yr have made up like 0-3% of his total shot attempts every yr of his career.

he is and always was a below the rim finisher.

[Dr Positivity]

Rondo's elite feel and instincts make him what he is, not sure Schroeder is even above average in that area.

[Winglish]

Rondo's elite feel and instincts make him what he is, not sure Schroeder is even above average in that area.

When he's on, Rondo's like that swashbuckling pirate, Captain Jack Sparrow. Does Schroder have any of that to his game? I only watched the Hoops Summit so that and youtube are all I have to go on.

[Joel Embust]

You guys act as if Rondo was a finished product coming out of college. He didn't have a great understanding of the game and wasn't that great of a floor general at Kentucky. He developed that elite feel and those instincts in the NBA. He had some of the same strengths that Schröder has at the moment. Elite quickness with the ability to blow by defenders at will, but had to learn how to use his quickness properly and get his teammates more involved. He was the same horrid shooter that he currently is so he didn't develop that part of the game. Schröder is shooting above 80% from the line while Rondo was around 55% in two years at Kentucky and he didn't improve his shooting in the NBA.

He was the 21st pick for a reason. Schröder will get the same opportunity that Rondo got to develop his game. It's up to him to make the most of that opportunity.

[Dr Positivity]

I think erratic decision making doesn't mean a player's feel for the game isn't high. I have Jamaal Franklin as having above average feel this year for example despite taking a lot of bad shots. They may be erratic because of inexperience or immaturity or bad coaching. Instead I just judge it by how smooth/fluid/natural they look as players, in particular driving to the rim through traffic or playing in the post, since those are areas of duress where control is key. Someone tried to tell me a while ago that Jrue was a dumb, low instinct player in college and that his feel in the pros was because of development but I said the same thing, if you watch the UCLA clips of him available he is a smooth player with control on his drives. Not to mention both Rondo and Holiday in their rookie seasons have obvious feel and it doesn't make sense they'd just figure that out over the summer between college and the pros. There aren't that much Rondo clips but IMO his feel is pretty clear in them. For example:

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3yKZPff1LnE[/youtube]

1:37, 1:45, 3:48 in particular are the type of plays I look for high feel players to have

[calamity]

wait a second. you're talking about rondo here? hes not an explosive finisher.
rondo rarely dunks or finishes on top of people. he's a below the rim finisher too. he is however a very creative finisher with tremendous ball control (huge hands), extension and creativity (knows how to freeze defenders with ball fakes and use different spins off the glass).

Time and injury have changed Rondo a little bit. He's not quite the player he once was athletically. Sometimes we forget what once was. Watch this and remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXHr58aRJE

he's 27 yrs old. he's never been a big in game dunker or someone who consistently finished above the rim.

his dunk attempts per yr have made up like 0-3% of his total shot attempts every yr of his career.

he is and always was a below the rim finisher.

he is still was more atheletic than Schroeder ever will be. The comparison to Rondo is only there because Schroeder self-admitted he models his game after him and of coruse the physical similarities. That being said, he is still an intriguing prospect. More upside they say someone like Burke.

[165bows]

http://t.co/dW5l227Ytk

Edit for clarity - His new DX video. Didn't realize the link got shortened and lost the title.

[Mr Grant Hill]

finally found his instagram, http://instagram.com/DennisMike93#
he has already worked out with houston, milwaukee, boston and dallas, caught up with dirk today. next stop utah?
only real comment about the workouts: "Very Good Workout for me" @ boston

[wilshenal]

Schroeder is more like Reggie Jackson to me. He can't pass with one hand right now.

[ManualRam]

Time and injury have changed Rondo a little bit. He's not quite the player he once was athletically. Sometimes we forget what once was. Watch this and remember:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scXHr58aRJE

he's 27 yrs old. he's never been a big in game dunker or someone who consistently finished above the rim.

his dunk attempts per yr have made up like 0-3% of his total shot attempts every yr of his career.

he is and always was a below the rim finisher.

he is still was more atheletic than Schroeder ever will be. The comparison to Rondo is only there because Schroeder self-admitted he models his game after him and of coruse the physical similarities. That being said, he is still an intriguing prospect.

you're probably right. im just saying that rondo isnt an above the rim finisher, never was, so if one believes that that is a main difference b/t the two then it isnt much of a difference at all.

[PaKwAn]

Schroeder is more like Reggie Jackson to me. He can't pass with one hand right now.

Go check the draftexpress video on him..at around 6:02 mark they are showing his one handed passing,like what rondo does....

[Mr Grant Hill]

also, german docs saying that he could grow another two inches

[Datruth345]

just for reference, yes it is true that rondo rarely finishes above the rim, but that's not to say that he can't. he has his fair share of dunks over taller players, as well as breakaway highlight dunks like 360's and such. i don't want to use the word explosive because that is a word a would use to describe westbrook, who is in a higher category. but Rondo can finish above the rim, sometimes highlight worthy, when he has to

[EddieJonesFan]

It really doesn't matter all that much in that case. What advantage does he gain from that? How often does he dunk over defenders or force fouls because of it? There are players who can get up, but they can't do it explosively, they need more space, time, and momentum to gear up and launch, limiting it's practical value in game situations.

[piggyfield]

I don't see any way he gets past at #16 too.OKC should strongly have a look at this guy.come on,dont point at Reggie Jackson .Next one is Dallas, a team in need of a PG like that.the Jazz also love to pick a PG.don't you think the bucks need a PG??!!!!Absolutly!Just Let Jennings go.

[HeartBreakKid]

also, german docs saying that he could grow another two inches

How can a doctor know if a person is going to grow or not? And I mean, all these guys could grow taller, they're all young.

[165bows]

also, german docs saying that he could grow another two inches

How can a doctor know if a person is going to grow or not? And I mean, all these guys could grow taller, they're all young.

The growth plate on the iliac crest will fuse after someone's done growing. You can estimate how much longer someone will grow, though I'm not sure if it is possible to tell how much they will grow in that time period. You can google Riser's sign, I'm sure it's on Wikipedia.