How is chris bosh a hall of famer?

[mhd]

Joe Dumars and Dennis Johnson? I suppose they were the primary guys on teams with Zeke, Rodman, Laimbeer, Bird, McHale, and Parrish? Come on now, if those guys are leaders on championship teams, so is Bosh.

Dumars was Finals MVP, and a multiple All-NBA teamer, including 4 First team Defense.

Come on.

And Bosh is an 8 time all star, NBA champion, All NBA second team, and is an Olympic gold medal winner. Let's not act like we're talking about Tyronne Hill, here. We're talking about an accomplished basketball player. Just because you don't like him, doesn't mean he's not worthy of the Hall.

So Bosh has made ONE ALL-NBA team in his entire career. He's only been regarded as a top 15 player once in his career. Again, he's never been considered amongst the best PF's of his era. KG and Dirk were always better than him. Amare was better than him before the injuries.

All-Star games mean nothing. ALL-NBA teams are the true barameter of your place amongst your peers. Chris Bosh never never evokes fear from an opposing team. He's a finesse big who doesn't defend. How is he exactly any better than say Horford or Noah? Heck, Carlos Boozer at least went to the WCF when he was the man on a team in Utah. Chris Bosh went to the playoffs once in Toronto.

[Imon]

Wow, this thread stretched out longer than I expected.

Like many in this thread I don't think Bosh deserves to be in the HoF but I do acknowledge that he will more than likely make it in.

So can Bosh critics and Bosh supporters agree on one thing...
Bosh will make it in because the Naismith Basketball HoF standards are low enough that Bosh will make it in.

[Nowitness]

Bosh is as worthy as those players, if not more so in some cases.

lol not even close.

Prove it.

K.C. Jones: TEN NBA Titles,2 NCAA titles,NCAA All-American,Celtics legend

Sabonis: Euroleague legend, 6x Euro Player of the year, 8 Euro championship titles, 3x Gold Medals, 4x Bronze, 1xSilver

Walton: 2x NBA Champ,2x College Player of the Year,3x All-American,2x NCAA Champ, 2x NCAA MOP,2x NBA All-Star,2x All-Defense

Petrovic: 4x Euroscar, 2x Mr. Europa,All-NBA 3rd Team,4x Gold Medals,3x Bronze,1x Silver

Dumars:2x NBA Champ,Finals MVP,6x All-Star, 3x All-NBA,5x All-Defense,All-Rookie 1st Team,1x Gold Medal

DJ: 3x NBA Champion, Finals MVP, 5x All-Star,2x All-NBA,NINEx All-Defense

Enough proof?

[Record Machine]

What about Parrish? Worthy? Laimbeer? All these guys were third bananas and still made the HOF.

Do your homework... Laimbeer isn't in the Hall and Parish and Worthy are clearly more deserving than Bosh. Come on.

[ThaRegul8r]

He isn't. Next question.

[BBallFreak]

What about Parrish? Worthy? Laimbeer? All these guys were third bananas and still made the HOF.

Do your homework... Laimbeer isn't in the Hall and Parish and Worthy are clearly more deserving than Bosh. Come on.

Come on is not a good statistical analysis. And Bosh's career numbers are right with those guys. You're not making a great case.

[hokageinfamus]

He's not but he'll get in based on the names he played with in Miami. If you look closely at his Toronto numbers they were good but he couldn't sustain elite play for an entire season and was a little injury prone.

[Bodhi]

What about Parrish? Worthy? Laimbeer? All these guys were third bananas and still made the HOF.

Do your homework... Laimbeer isn't in the Hall and Parish and Worthy are clearly more deserving than Bosh. Come on.

Come on is not a good statistical analysis. And Bosh's career numbers are right with those guys. You're not making a great case.

Their numbers are comparable because Bosh was a number 1 option for years. Worthy was clearly more talented than his numbers show because he took a back seat to Magic and Kareem. Does anyone trust Bosh to have a game 7 like this?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 10LAL.html

[BBallFreak]

Their numbers are comparable because Bosh was a number 1 option for years. Worthy was clearly more talented than his numbers show because he took a back seat to Magic and Kareem. Does anyone trust Bosh to have a game 7 like this?

http://www.basketball-reference.com/box ... 10LAL.html

And yet, look what he did as a number one option, leading the Lakers to a couple of early exits and their first lottery pick in years. Bravo. Great number one option. And you can say it was the end of his career, but he was 32 when he hung it up. It's not like he was even really outside his prime.

[mhd]

What about Parrish? Worthy? Laimbeer? All these guys were third bananas and still made the HOF.

Do your homework... Laimbeer isn't in the Hall and Parish and Worthy are clearly more deserving than Bosh. Come on.

Come on is not a good statistical analysis. And Bosh's career numbers are right with those guys. You're not making a great case.

Worthy led UNC to a title and was named most outstanding player. College Resumes count. Too bad Bosh was on a 500 team in his sole year in college. Worthy also was named finals MVP. Worthy was also a terrific passer and all-around player.

Parrish was a much more dominant rebounder and defender than Bosh ever has been. He was also a terrific outlet passer who was a key cog in the great Celtics teams. Again, Chris Bosh is a weak defender and a weak rebounder.

How is Bosh even better than Shawn Kemp? Kemp was a much better defender and rebounder. Kemp led his team to the finals alongside Glove. Kemp was named all-nba 2nd team THREE times (something Bosh has only been named once).

[High 5]

There needs to be something special about a player for them to be in the Hall of Fame. I don't think being close friends with LeBron and Wade is enough.

[Singh101]

Bosh is not a HOFer.
However, he will eventually be in it because the Basketball HOF is a joke!
On a side note i think both VC and TMac will also make it to the HOF.

[Boneman2]

Nobody considers Bosh the reason for Miami's success, so the notion he is highly responsible is not an argument you will win, even with logical Heat fans. Also, nobody considered him worthy until he joined a monopoly. I think those who vote will recognize this.

The only thing he can tout is the all-star appearances, but I always felt he gained an unfair advantage by having an entire country vote for him. It definitely skewed his popularity to an extent. Made him seem more than he was when in reality he has been a fringe-all star caliber player his whole career.

@ anybody comparing his leadership capabilities to Dumars. Besides being about 100x more mentally stable, Dumars was an assassin at both ends of the court. If Dumars had gotten abused like Bosh in the playoffs he would have came out with a vengeance the following game. Not Bosh, he comes out weaker and more timid.

[junot111]

Nobody considers Bosh the reason for Miami's success, so the notion he is highly responsible is not an argument you will win, even with logical Heat fans. Also, nobody considered him worthy until he joined a monopoly. I think those who vote will recognize this.

Only people like Shaq and those that ignore small market teams (even though Toronto is not a small market, but it fits in that category) think like this

[Fantastik_Goat]

As a third option Horace Grant was a much better player on better teams then Bosh has been in the playoffs.


Grant
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... game::none

Bosh
http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... game::none

[Valid]

Do your homework... Laimbeer isn't in the Hall and Parish and Worthy are clearly more deserving than Bosh. Come on.

Come on is not a good statistical analysis. And Bosh's career numbers are right with those guys. You're not making a great case.

Worthy led UNC to a title and was named most outstanding player. College Resumes count. Too bad Bosh was on a 500 team in his sole year in college. Worthy also was named finals MVP. Worthy was also a terrific passer and all-around player.

Parrish was a much more dominant rebounder and defender than Bosh ever has been. He was also a terrific outlet passer who was a key cog in the great Celtics teams. Again, Chris Bosh is a weak defender and a weak rebounder.

How is Bosh even better than Shawn Kemp? Kemp was a much better defender and rebounder. Kemp led his team to the finals alongside Glove. Kemp was named all-nba 2nd team THREE times (something Bosh has only been named once).

God only knows how good Kemp would have been if he didn't screw it all up. That dude was ridiculously talented.

[IFeelsYaBrah]

Some people have a too strict idea of who makes the HOF. Recent history showed us that you can make it even if you're not an elite superstar like Jordan and Bird. A solid multiple-time all star that is a second or even third option on a team can make it.

Accolades such as: 8-time all star + gold medalist is more or less an automatic entry in the HOF.

Remember, 30 years from now when Bosh is well forgotten except for some older fans, they will look at his stats and say wow, this guy was good, 24/11 in his best season and a 8+ time all star, and won a gold medal and a ring.

Accolades are one of the primary criteria for the HOF, and Bosh has more than sufficient accolades.

[Dagameplaya PnG]

The only thing this guy should get is a spot for his jersey up in the rafters.

From which team?

I would say the Heat.

[Winsome Gerbil]

Some people have a too strict idea of who makes the HOF. Recent history showed us that you can make it even if you're not an elite superstar like Jordan and Bird. A solid multiple-time all star that is a second or even third option on a team can make it.

Accolades such as: 8-time all star + gold medalist is more or less an automatic entry in the HOF.

Remember, 30 years from now when Bosh is well forgotten except for some older fans, they will look at his stats and say wow, this guy was good, 24/11 in his best season and a 8+ time all star, and won a gold medal and a ring.

Accolades are one of the primary criteria for the HOF, and Bosh has more than sufficient accolades.

People have this very funny idea about who has been making it into the HOF, and why, and it leads them to suggest that all kinds of people who simply aren't going to sniff the HOF should be in it. Defining players make the HOF. The Mullin selection opened the door up to defining players who had their careers cut short, and hence Bernard King gets in. Next year probably Mourning and Webber. But those are all still defining players. Being an All Star is not enough.

[JordansBulls]

The guy is now an 8x allstar, champion, gold medal, etc. You have guys who have made 3 or less allstars in the hall of fame. Some made 0 appearances.