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Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#1 » by Snakebites » Fri Jun 7, 2013 9:27 pm

I figured it would be fun to have a thread about what people expect to happen with free agency this year. Given the state of our salary cap I'd say the only certainty is that our roster will look quite different next year.

Bear in mind this is NOT a thread to discuss what you would think we SHOULD do, nor is it a thread to post thoughts on what your ideal free agent shopping spree would look like.

A few questions to answer:

1) Do we amnesty Charlie Villanueva?

2) Do we nuke the last year of Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal?

3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?

4) Who do you think the Pistons will TARGET as free agents? Who will we be linked to?

5) And, of course, who will we actually sign, and what kind of money will they get from us?

6) How satisfied will you be with this projected outcome?

Brownie points to anyone who correctly predicts any of these things.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#2 » by theBigLip » Fri Jun 7, 2013 10:04 pm

Snakebites wrote:1) Do we amnesty Charlie Villanueva?
2) Do we nuke the last year of Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal?
3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?
4) Who do you think the Pistons will TARGET as free agents? Who will we be linked to?
5) And, of course, who will we actually sign, and what kind of money will they get from us?
6) How satisfied will you be with this projected outcome?


1. No - we do not amnesty CV. We may trade him though. Contract year, he might play well for a showcase.
2. No - we do not pay Stuckey to move on. Same reasoning as with CV.
3. Yes, we will attempt :-) I think we make the trade with Dallas and get either Marion or Carter and their #13.
4. We will look at Mayo, Josh Smith, Tyreke, Jennings, Teague, Reddick, Allen, Martin, Brewer.
5. We sign Cory Brewer to a 5 year, $25M contract.
6. I'd be happy with this outcome. We still have cap space for 2014. We get a SF. We get a SG or PG in the draft and Knight plays the other position. We would still need some knock down shooters, so hopefully we get KCP or McCollum as the SG. This lineup would get us into the playoffs without blowing a big wad on Josh Smith, etc.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#3 » by dVs33 » Fri Jun 7, 2013 10:05 pm

My picks...

CV is kept
Stuckey is traded
Calderon is resigned
Iggy is offered a lot of money by Joe. Still not sure if he goes for it yet.

Done.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#4 » by retrolenny » Fri Jun 7, 2013 11:34 pm

CV stays
Stuck goes
We draft McCallum
We pick up Tony Allen & Iggy in FA market
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#5 » by Snakebites » Sat Jun 8, 2013 4:07 pm

For myself:

1) No amnesty of CV. We traded a pick to unload Ben Gordon and negotiated a buyout with Rip rather than pay him the full amount to get him off our cap. Some have said this is so they can save their amnesty, I believe its because management (or ownership) is opposed to its use.

2) Stuck goes. I'm going out on a limb here, maybe I'm totally off base, but I think they'll go ahead and get out of some of this money with no strings attached. Stuckey no longer fits with what we're trying to do here. Something inside of me is telling me I'm off base here, but I'm going with it anyway.

3) We'll try. I'm not really interested in the 13th pick, but I could see it happening. I could also see us looking into guys like Thomas Robinson, Danny Granger, and other players on teams who are either looking for cap space or needing enough money to resign guys.

4) We'll target anyone and everyone, IMO. I actually do believe they'll leave literally no stone unturned, other than perhaps some guys who obviously don't fit.

5) We'll get some secondary guys. I could see us getting Corey Brewer for a deal similar to what the Big Lip put forward, as he seems a likely candidate for the Nuggets to let go. Outside chance at signing a guy like Mayo or Reddick, too. Hard to say.

I'm fine with not getting one of the "major" free agents, and expect that we won't. I'm just hoping we don't grossly overpay for secondary players. If we end up spending a great deal of money on someone like OJ Mayo I will be very displeased.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#6 » by Laimbeer » Sat Jun 8, 2013 6:45 pm

Stuckey and Charlie V. will be back, and we'll overpay for mid-level free agents.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#7 » by ImHeisenberg » Sat Jun 8, 2013 9:22 pm

I predict Detroit keeps Villanueva and doesn't buy out Stuckey, because they're both becoming expiring contracts, giving them the most value they've had in 4 years!

On the free agent spectrum I can't predict names, but I can predict disappointment. Lots of disappointment from the fans who believed Gores when he said he's looking to spend.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#8 » by Snakebites » Sat Jun 8, 2013 9:37 pm

^I do believe he's willing to spend.

I just don't think there's much out there he's going to be able to buy.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#9 » by Pugz » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:23 am

i predict this off-season will start making people angry by sunday night.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#10 » by theBigLip » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:23 am

I just hope we don't spend huge this year. The time to spend big is for the final piece to the puzzle. We need to add several pieces and be a bit patient.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#11 » by Kilo » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:28 am

Nobody will want to come here, so Joe will start selling how they will use the space to make trades during the season - then the trade deadline will come and go and Joe will say "nothing made sense for us, but we'll spend this off-season for sure..."
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#12 » by Jodi » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:59 am

Snakebites wrote:1) Do we amnesty Charlie Villanueva?

2) Do we nuke the last year of Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal?

3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?

4) Who do you think the Pistons will TARGET as free agents? Who will we be linked to?

5) And, of course, who will we actually sign, and what kind of money will they get from us?

6) How satisfied will you be with this projected outcome?

1. No

2. Stuckey will be traded this this summer, I'm guessing OKC, Portland, Lakers, or San Antonio...

3. Yes...Thomas Robinson, Wilson Chandler, or Jordan Crawford

4. Jennings, Andrew Bynum, Collision, Wright, Ayon, Dalembert, Reddick, Millsap, or Calderon

5. I don't know but we'll spend plenty of money this summer

6. I'll be satisfied if Dumars can put together a playoff team...I'm tired of us losing...
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#13 » by haulerch » Tue Jun 11, 2013 4:48 pm

1) Do we amnesty Charlie Villanueva?
No, I dont think Gores has any interest in paying a guy who isnt really a trouble maker to stay away from the team. I believe we try to trade him up until the trade deadline.

2) Do we nuke the last year of Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal?
I think its almost a certainty that Dumars will run up the phone bill trying to trade Stuckey. I could see him doing well for a veteran team (Spurs?). I just dont think there is anyway you can justify bringing this guy back. He is a loser, a lockerroom cancer, and his baggage in Detroit is too much to overlook under the hire of Mo Cheeks. He is a goner.

3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?
Yes, we will look at all avenues that have the potential to improve us. I am really interested in the GSW and DEN situations. With GSW looking at the luxury tax and the fact that there leader (Jack) is a FA will that make them more inclined to trade a young piece that will need an extension in the future? Thompson or Barnes? And who knows what the Denver roster will look like next year. I would also be enticed by the #13 and Marion trade

4) Who do you think the Pistons will TARGET as free agents? Who will we be linked to?
I think the hiring of Mo Cheeks will link us to his former players like Iggy, Korver, and Dalembert and realistically all three fill a need. I like everything about Iggy's game and I think we could use a leader on and off the court like him. Wouldnt mind us taking a look at Jack if we decide that BK7 is better suited off the ball or in a back up role (doubtful). Regardless, I would like to see a high quality vet added to the influx of youth we have.

5) And, of course, who will we actually sign, and what kind of money will they get from us?
Iggy- 4 years/52 million
Dalembert 3 years/12 million
Honestly, I see us more involved in trades than I do with signing FA's


6) How satisfied will you be with this projected outcome?
I would be pretty satisfied with a roster resembling something like this.
BK7/Bynum

Thompson/Singler/English
Iggy/Middleton
Monroe/JJ/CV?
Drummond/Dalembert/Slava
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#14 » by The Penguin » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:09 pm

haulerch wrote:
3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?
Yes, we will look at all avenues that have the potential to improve us. I am really interested in the GSW and DEN situations. With GSW looking at the luxury tax and the fact that there leader (Jack) is a FA will that make them more inclined to trade a young piece that will need an extension in the future? Thompson or Barnes? And who knows what the Denver roster will look like next year. I would also be enticed by the #13 and Marion trade




Outside of Drummond/Monroe we have no one worth Klay Thompson. Fail.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#15 » by Brapman » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:14 pm

If the Pistons trade Stuckey, then we'll almost certainly have another veteran PG on the team (Calderon?)

I'm a strong proponent for draft MCW, resigning Calderon, and using Knight at the SG. Calderon would be MCW's (and Knight's) mentor for the next couple of seasons. Middleton and English would fight for minutes at backup SG, but the team would likely add a veteran free agent SG as well. (Middleton and English would fight for minutes at SF with whoever the team adds with its cap space, via trade or Free Agency.

I'll be slighly surprised if the Pistons don't trade Rodney before the season. CV will stick on the roster and will be, hopefully, a very sought after expiring contract at the trade deadline.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#16 » by Jodi » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:35 pm

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haulerch wrote:
3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?
Yes, we will look at all avenues that have the potential to improve us. I am really interested in the GSW and DEN situations. With GSW looking at the luxury tax and the fact that there leader (Jack) is a FA will that make them more inclined to trade a young piece that will need an extension in the future? Thompson or Barnes? And who knows what the Denver roster will look like next year. I would also be enticed by the #13 and Marion trade




Outside of Drummond/Monroe we have no one worth Klay Thompson. Fail.

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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#17 » by haulerch » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:44 pm

Piston Prince wrote:
haulerch wrote:
3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?
Yes, we will look at all avenues that have the potential to improve us. I am really interested in the GSW and DEN situations. With GSW looking at the luxury tax and the fact that there leader (Jack) is a FA will that make them more inclined to trade a young piece that will need an extension in the future? Thompson or Barnes? And who knows what the Denver roster will look like next year. I would also be enticed by the #13 and Marion trade




Outside of Drummond/Monroe we have no one worth Klay Thompson. Fail.


The point was that they are facing deep luxury tax and cant afford to offer a large extension to multiple players (Barnes and Thompson will be coming up ina few years). If they were trading one to avoid a large contract why would they want Monroe who will be commanding a huge contract next season? I figured a pick or something along those lines would be good for a luxury strapped team.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#18 » by haulerch » Tue Jun 11, 2013 5:49 pm

Plus, when did the GSW become the Lakers? They arent exactly a team who has been spending over the years or even seemed willing to chase after a championship every year. Havent the GSW made a lot of bone head decisions in the past? Example: Passing on Monroe. This wouldnt be a move out of the ordinary for that team.
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#19 » by Jodi » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:16 pm

The Warriors aren't breaking up there young core anytime soon..Jefferson and Bogut's huge contracts will off the books next season, there team will be fine financially..
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Re: Predict Our Free Agency 

Post#20 » by DetroitDon15 » Tue Jun 11, 2013 6:24 pm

Snakebites wrote:I figured it would be fun to have a thread about what people expect to happen with free agency this year. Given the state of our salary cap I'd say the only certainty is that our roster will look quite different next year.

Bear in mind this is NOT a thread to discuss what you would think we SHOULD do, nor is it a thread to post thoughts on what your ideal free agent shopping spree would look like.

A few questions to answer:

1) Do we amnesty Charlie Villanueva?

2) Do we nuke the last year of Stuckey's non-guaranteed deal?

3) Will we attempt to use our cap space to broker trades? If so, who do you think we'll be able to get?

4) Who do you think the Pistons will TARGET as free agents? Who will we be linked to?

5) And, of course, who will we actually sign, and what kind of money will they get from us?

6) How satisfied will you be with this projected outcome?

Brownie points to anyone who correctly predicts any of these things.



1) No - I don't see Gores dishing out 8 mill to DNP-CV when he has to pay other people. I just can't see it. I see him being our fourth big in a four big rotation. 10-13 minutes as a stretch four.

2) No - I think if Stuckey moves it will be via trade. I can't see Gores spending more cash to just release Stuckey. He has talent on a team devoid of it.

3) Yes - I can see something like a one year 4 or 5 mill deal for a big center (Chris Kaman/Samuel Dalembert type) and a 1 year three mill deal for a back-up PG (maybe Bynum).

4) I don't think we'll sign a max FA guy. Just not out there. I think a trade where the Pistons add salary for a draft pick compensation will happen. I also could see Detroit a third team in a three team deal to help make one happen.

5) Actually will resign Calderon to around 3 years at 6 mill per (5, 6, 7 mill respectively). 4 million to Samuel Dalebert on a year deal. Will Bynum resigned for 1 year at 2 mill.

6) 2 outta 10 because we didn't have another BG/DNP-CV spending spree but mostly sucks cause we'll be in the lotto again.

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