Next head coach of the Nuggets

eathb_au · Post #1 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 3:39 pm

I feel this should be a separate thread.

Who do we want?

I think it will be a tough get but I would like to get Brian Shaw. A young coach for a young team. While Hollins has a good playoffs record with the Grizzlies and gets them to play defense, the only way I would consider him is if Iggy re-signs here.

Post #2 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 3:42 pm

Shaw would be good, I don't think Hollins is a good idea.

Another guy I would not mind seeing is SVG, he is good at creating a system around his talent, and will get them to play defense.

eathb_au · Post #3 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 3:45 pm

I don't mind SVG as well but I don't think he wants to coach anymore.

RRFB · Post #4 » by **RRFB** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 6:04 pm

I doubt either Van Gundy is coming out of retirement to coach this Nuggets team.
I don't know anything about Brian Shaw, but it seems like every team with a coaching vacancy is drooling over him.
Hollins would be interesting because, if nothing else, he's like the polar opposite of George Karl.

Post #5 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 9:01 pm

The problem I have with Hollins is that he is being run out of Memphis due to his incredible dislike to advanced stats, this team does as well as it does partially because they run a system based on shots at the rim or 3s, and advanced stat principle.

Shemy · Post #6 » by **Shemy** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:05 pm

A young team like the nuggets should do everything to keep away from a guy who has failed to develop a number of younger players and draft picks

Post #7 » by **The Rebel** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 10:14 pm

Shemy wrote:A young team like the nuggets should do everything to keep away from a guy who has failed to develop a number of younger players and draft picks

I personally do not see the Nuggets really being all that interested in Hollins, I think it is more speculation than anything at this point. I mean unless that was one of the 1st calls Josh made after firing Karl at 930 this morning which I doubt. After all the rumor was out there within 10 minutes of Karl getting fired.

Personally I think the Nuggets look into a young guy like Shaw, it just makes too much sense after what he reportedly did with developing Paul George, and the success of the Pacers building a team in much the same model as the Nuggets are doing.

eathb_au · Post #8 » by **eathb_au** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 11:45 pm

Shaw will be most Nuggets fans first choice but the problem is if we can get convince him to coach Denver over two big markets

We have 57 wins going for us, if Karl can get the Clippers job that would help too.

RRFB · Post #9 » by **RRFB** » Thu Jun 6, 2013 11:48 pm

Adrian Wojnarowski ‏@WojYahooNBA 34m
Beyond Brian Shaw and Lionel Hollins, Denver plans to examine Nate McMillan and Alvin Gentry for head coaching job, league sources tell Y!

I liked Gentry in Phoenix and always thought they didn't give him enough of a chance. Not sure he's the right guy here, but it'd be an interesting pick. I don't like McMillan. Aren't his teams notorious for playing at an extremely slow pace? That won't work here.

Post #10 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 12:02 am

[tweet]https://twitter.com/sam_amick/status/342712072989179904[/tweet]

Looks like Shaw may be a strong possibility.

Post #11 » by **corona** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 12:29 am

would love to see shaw here.

smart player. experience under phil jackson among others. just has all the signs of breaking out as a great head coach....just needs the opportunity (which he'll get, just depends on if its with us or not).

would hate to hire someone in the standard revolving nba coaching door.

Ice32 · Post #12 » by **Ice32** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 12:51 am

Shaw to me is a great assistant coach. Not sure he could better 57 wins, with possibly no Iggy, Gallo gone for a long time, no CBrew. Wheres your bench energy? Wheres your perimeter defender? Can McGee play as a productive starter again?

A lot of holes in this group now, I would think the morale is shot. Masai got most of these guys here and they have to wonder which direction FO is now going in.

Unless we pull off some amazing trade that lands us a Superstar, I cant see Denver doing better than last year, which means no HCA, which means Playoff struggles - something we see over and over.

eathb_au · Post #13 » by **eathb_au** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 1:43 am

Ice32 wrote:Shaw to me is a great assistant coach. Not sure he could better 57 wins, with possibly no Iggy, Gallo gone for a long time, no CBrew. Wheres your bench energy? Wheres your perimeter defender? Can McGee play as a productive starter again?

A lot of holes in this group now, I would think the morale is shot. Masai got most of these guys here and they have to wonder which direction FO is now going in.

Unless we pull off some amazing trade that lands us a Superstar, I cant see Denver doing better than last year, which means no HCA, which means Playoff struggles - something we see over and over.

When Gallo went down, Fournier pretty much matched his production until he got benched in the playofsf.

I doubt we will keep Brewer, though I'd be okay keeping him now since Karl is no longer coach and I'm sure if we get a good coach that Brewer will only play 10-15 minutes a game and would be banned from shooting the 3 outside of corner ones (or shooting in general). However, if we get Brian Shaw who will probably want to play the triangle, then players like Miller and Brewer should be out of here since they are terrible triangle players.

But even if we decide to let Brewer walk, assuming we re-sign Iggy, we have the MLE to throw at a well needed proven 3pt shooter like Korver, Webster, etc. or even draft someone like Reggie Bullock. Even if we don't decide to use the MLE, there's also Jordan Hamilton off the bench who put up very good scoring numbers off the bench last season but never got an opportunity.

Kenny0873 · Post #14 » by **Kenny0873** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 10:39 pm

I heard one person on a Denver station mention Chauncey Billups in glowing terms as someone that could walk off the floor right now and either coach or be a huge contributor in a front office role. I'm not sure that Billups is ready to retire, though. For now, I think it would be a good idea to go with someone like Gentry, who is known for his up-tempo game. No matter what, the Nuggets need to sign a sharp-shooter just like the guy said above me.

Post #15 » by **The Rebel** » Fri Jun 7, 2013 10:55 pm

Chauncey reportedly already has coaching experience, go luck at what was said of him during that run to the WCF a few years ago, but I doubt the Nuggets will be trying to get him.

eathb_au · Post #16 » by **eathb_au** » Sat Jun 8, 2013 11:09 am

Does Chauncey even want to coach?

I'd be okay with getting him if we plan to tank for Wiggins.

Post #17 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Jun 8, 2013 12:43 pm

There are indications that Shaw is leading that race, as the Nuggets see Shaw as a rising star in the coaching ranks who could help their young team grow.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/sports/nba/playoffs/2013/06/06/george-karl-denver-nuggets-memphis-grizzlies/2396543/

Even if it is, the Clippers and Nets will give Denver plenty of competition for Shaw and Hollins.

The Nuggets have an attractive roster too, but it’s probably helpful to have what seems like a fallback candidate in Gentry.

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/ ... in-gentry/

I still do not like the idea of Hollins, but think Shaw is the right answer. Gentry maybe okay, but I am not really sold on him being that good of a coach either.

eathb_au · Post #18 » by **eathb_au** » Sat Jun 8, 2013 3:18 pm

Agree. Not sold on ex NBA coaches to be honest.

A young coach for a young team would be best IMO

Kenny0873 · Post #19 » by **Kenny0873** » Sat Jun 8, 2013 8:04 pm

I think most of us believe that Shaw would bring the triangle offense with him, but that makes it even more critical to get shooting. I don't know that a guy like Igoudala fits since his shot is so unreliable.

Post #20 » by **The Rebel** » Sat Jun 8, 2013 8:26 pm

Kenny0873 wrote:I think most of us believe that Shaw would bring the triangle offense with him, but that makes it even more critical to get shooting. I don't know that a guy like Igoudala fits since his shot is so unreliable.

I agree on Iggy not fitting the triangle, but I doubt they run the triangle 100% of the time. Although the triangle works well if gallo comes back healthy, Fournier ends up being the player I think he can become, and Lawson with his ability to hit spot up shots and the speed he brings. Another thing that many people do not realize is that Koufos was a jumpshooting big when he got to the league, so if they can get him back to that a little on offense, get Faried to play the old Rodman role (he will have to improve his defense considerably), and get McGee to improve his post game and passing, I could see the triangle working.

That being said it would not surprise me if a deal or two is made this summer. the way Josh Kroenke has sounded it looks like the Nuggets are willing to take a step back to improve the team long term.