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Bosh has to play better...
The way he's playing right now, even his effort... he is NOT a max contract player... Step up to the moment. Wade did and he's now playing effective. Now its your turn.
The way he's playing right now, even his effort... he is NOT a max contract player... Step up to the moment. Wade did and he's now playing effective. Now its your turn.

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StrengthNHonor wrote:also, wtf at Bosh jumping and falling for every single pump fake
He turning into Birdman, I understand with Hibbert, but with someone like Timmy that is your same size.. I don't get it
Even LBJ turned into a Bird because of Parker, just straight up BS, that was LBJ's worst defensive game I've seen in awhile
Stop being so disrespectful.
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SweetTouch wrote:StrengthNHonor wrote:also, wtf at Bosh jumping and falling for every single pump fake
He turning into Birdman, I understand with Hibbert, but with someone like Timmy that is your same size.. I don't get it
Even LBJ turned into a Bird because of Parker, just straight up BS, that was LBJ's worst defensive game I've seen in awhile
think you been watchin too much espn today.
The team led all the way and lost the game in the 4th. that is all
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The Heat game plan needs to be to go at Leonard and to try to get him in foul trouble. No one else on the Spurs can defend James away from the rim.
The Heat should be concerned that they rebounded well and SA shot poorly from three point distance; yet the Spurs won.
It is not time to panic, but the Heat better not lose game 2.
The Heat should be concerned that they rebounded well and SA shot poorly from three point distance; yet the Spurs won.
It is not time to panic, but the Heat better not lose game 2.
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Heat game plan needs to be to go at Leonard and to try to get him in foul trouble. No one else on the Spurs can defend James away from the rim.
The Heat should be concerned that they rebounded well and SA shot poorly from three point distance; yet the Spurs won.
It is not time to panic, but the Heat better not lose game 2.
The spurs also didn't turn the ball over and the heat only scored 16 in the 4 th and it was still a close game.
Heat should win the rebound battle everynight against the spurs incidentally. Spurs don't even try to offensive rebound.
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That's nonsense. Wade played a good first half and then fell of the map. There's no reason for him not to score 25+ on good efficiency out there. Just like against Dallas in 2011, he had an easier time to attack the gaps in the Spurs' zone and had several opportunities to score. At least LeBron made good plays out of the double teams he received and the help he forced. Where was Wade down the stretch? Giving the ball to LeBron over and over again.
Wade needs to be our attacker from the perimeter this series, while LeBron sits in the post. I don't know if they don't see it, but LeBron in the post usually let good things happen. The Spurs would always find several guys to cover him and if the others moved well enough, we'd get good shots.
Wade, on the other hand, was able to carve through their defense and get to the rim, he was just scared to really attack Duncan/Splitter.
For the life of me do I not understand what game some were watching. Sure LeBron could've forced a couple of more shots, but he was very active out there and made a lot of right plays. He wasn't our problem last night.
EDIT: Also, if Wade turns down another wide open jumper, Spoelstra better gets on his a** about it.
I meant that Wade is injured and doesnt attack and played great in a way by comparing it to the Pacers series. LeBron just needs to attack, and get Duncan and Leonard in foul trouble. Honestly, we can't count on our role players, battier, ray allen, miller to hit 3's cause they usually never do. The only way can truly have a chance to win this is LeBron attacking and just being aggressive, and Bosh playing, and Wade doing what he did in Game 7, just hustle and attack. If Bosh plays good we are winning, it's simple.
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dreamchaser wrote:OtW wrote:Did y'all hear/see what Rodman said?
If that doesn't get our guys fired up, then IDK what will. Shots FIRED."It's really not a comparison. If LeBron was playing in the late '80s and early '90s he would be just an average player," Rodman said Friday on "The Dan Patrick Show." "To do what Michael has done ... what he did was more charisma, there was more articulating and stuff like that. LeBron is more like ... there's no flash to his game. He's a great player, don't get me wrong, he's a hell of player, I'll give him that. But to me Scottie (Pippen) and Michael are probably the two best 1-2 punches I've ever seen.""I'm just sick and tired of people comparing (James) to Michael Jordan," Rodman said. "It's a whole different era, man.""LeBron came into the age of the game at a perfect time. Michael came into the game when back then you could hit people, knock him down, shoot a free throw and get back up," Rodman said. "And LeBron can't do that. All they do today is (complain) about a foul. All they do is (complain).""It would be no contest. The Heat has better talent than we had, but we had smarter players," Rodman said. "That's the only thing we had, smarter players. ... I would take Bosh out of his damn game easy. That's not even a problem. And how would Dwyane Wade match up with Scottie Pippen? Really? And Scottie Pippen would guard LeBron easy. And how are you going to cover those two guys (Jordan and Pippen)?"![]()
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wow...
Clearly the drugs have destroyed his brain. He contradicts himself how many times? Is James a great play, a helluva player, or an average player?
I love how everyone says "back then, blah blah blah." Jordan played in a wide-open NBA in the mid '80s when FG% and scoring and pace were unimaginable compared to today's game. Every statistical measure points to this. He built up most of his stats during this time. James in a wide-open NBA with less muscular players and more space and no zone defense would be an unholy terror. Jordan played only 2 or 3 years when defenses began to really change and dominate.
What's really funny about this pervasive "back then" narrative is that even kids 16 years old repeat it not having seen any if it. Kids in the early '90s wouldn't ever say "back then." This narrative has been very effective and really file king annoying.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:StrengthNHonor wrote:Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:Heat fans call Spoelstra an idiot. The Heat won 27 straight and this is their third straight Finals. In game 7 vs Indy, Spoelstra sat Battier. Wade and Bosh got their shots. That win happened with Lebron passing as he did tonight.
Heat fans who criticize and name call Lebron IMO deserve the same thing that happened to Cleveland. SA zoned and collapsed on James. He hit the boards and kept the Heat in the game.
The story of this game was the ball movement, execution, and the second half defense of the Spurs. They gave up fewer driving lanes but the Heat still almost won.
How Jordan used to win :
1st quarter/half/1st 3 quarters (depending on situation) = Get my team involved, get them going in rhythm and scoring, and Jordan scored within the offense, depending on what defense did
4th quarter = Jordan time. Took over offensively
LBJ in the 4th was passing too much.
I don't remember Jordan being asked to defend guys like Stockton in the fourth AND to take over. He had Pippen and Rodman/Ho Grant playing great defense
Lebron put in work but looked tired to me at the end. He can't be chasing Parker and be asked to score IMO.
Agree. You also couldn't play zone when Jordan played. It is MUCH easier to shut down individual scorers now than it was then.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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+1 ^
It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -


It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -


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Chocolate City Jordanaire wrote:The Heat should be concerned that they rebounded well and SA shot poorly from three point distance; yet the Spurs won.
Lebron rebounded like a crazy man. The rest of the team did its usual garbage job on the boards.
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Miamis3rdRing wrote:+1 ^
It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -
:lol
Has there ever been any team at any time that got this much hate from former players? What other than greatness can elicit such reactions? Does anyone ever talk about the scrub at the end of the bench? Boo him? It is precisely James's greatness that draws out these comments. These vets see his play and how he controls, directly or indirectly, just about every game and are in awe. They see him Rollin' and they hatin'.
lessthanjake wrote:Kyrie was extremely impactful without LeBron, and basically had zero impact whatsoever if LeBron was on the court.
lessthanjake wrote: By playing in a way that prevents Kyrie from getting much impact, LeBron ensures that controlling for Kyrie has limited effect…
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Miamis3rdRing wrote:+1 ^
It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -
I don't see the joke, this picture does not reflect who this man was on the basketball court, the rules of the game have changed to accommodate todays "marketable players" THERE ARE ROLE PLAYERS/non stars today making more than MJ before his last year....
A lot of the stars we celebrate today might not have lasted in the NBA in the 70's 80's and part of the 90's
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WD wrote:Miamis3rdRing wrote:+1 ^
It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -
I don't see the joke, this picture does not reflect who this man was on the basketball court, the rules of the game have changed to accommodate todays "marketable players" THERE ARE ROLE PLAYERS/non stars today making more than MJ before his last year....
A lot of the stars we celebrate today might not have lasted in the NBA in the 70's 80's and part of the 90's
I disagree with this notion. The different types of zone defenses that are allowed to be played along with the higher amount of mobile bigs makes it a lot harder for perimeter players to drive and finish these days. Now the league was probably more physical back then, which made it tougher for players back in the day, but the variety of defensive schemes you can use today is a strong weapon teams didn't have back then.

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DWadeno3 wrote:WD wrote:Miamis3rdRing wrote:+1 ^
It's funny to me that these comments have turned into such a story. As if LeBron needs the approval of this guy -
I don't see the joke, this picture does not reflect who this man was on the basketball court, the rules of the game have changed to accommodate todays "marketable players" THERE ARE ROLE PLAYERS/non stars today making more than MJ before his last year....
A lot of the stars we celebrate today might not have lasted in the NBA in the 70's 80's and part of the 90's
I disagree with this notion. The different types of zone defenses that are allowed to be played along with the higher amount of mobile bigs makes it a lot harder for perimeter players to drive and finish these days. Now the league was probably more physical back then, which made it tougher for players back in the day, but the variety of defensive schemes you can use today is a strong weapon teams didn't have back then.
that's why I don't like to compare bball eras, things are different in each of those times - 70's. 80's, 90's
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