Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LV - NBA Draft Edition)

rcklsscognition · Post #201 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:07 am

ESPN video update on the draft. Covers Burke, Carter-Williams

http://espn.go.com/nba/?topId=9353945

Orange Ave. · Post #202 » by **Orange Ave.** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:49 am

dsg2021 wrote:I'd be disappointed more than anything, and move on. I find it hard to believe the Magic are saying "wow, all these top 1-5 guys will suck." And they shouldn't gamble backwards on something like this. Like if CJ McCollum is the Magic's #2 BPA after Noel or Porter/McLemore or whoever and they're taken by the Cavs or whoever at #1, then the Magic try to trade down to McCollum only to find out that two or three other teams actually had him #4-6 BPA range also and one of them goes through with it while the Magic are sitting at #8-9. It's no fun, and they had to trade someone at 2 for a deal that is already backfired or dead on the tracks.

This is reminicent of what happened when we drafted Webber.

Orlando had the 1st pick, Philly 2, Warriors 3.

We wanted Penny, Warriors wanted Shawn Bradley.

The plan was for us to draft Bradley at 1, then send him to the Warriors who would pick Penny at 3 then swap. BUT, Philly would not promise that they wouldn't take Penny at 2. SO, the Magic and Warriors agreed that Orlando would take Webber (who the Warriors were high on as well). The reason being if Philly did take Penny at 2 and ruin the trade, Orlando would not be stuck with Shawn Bradley (7ft 6 center) who they did not need since they had Shaq. If the the player Orlando wanted to trade down for (Penny) was gone, at least they'd have a player they could use (Webber a Power Forward).

Of course it worked out beautifully for Philly who wanted Bradley all along.

OrlChamps2030 · Post #203 » by **OrlChamps2030** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 2:00 am

Neon1 wrote:The only player i would trade back for is CJ McCollum. For the 2nd 1st i would ideally want SG Allen Crabbe or PF Tony Bennett.

I really am intrigued by Ledo, but there isnt any tape outside of high school clips, so its hard for me to say for sure.

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I agree. If we trade down past 7 the pick HAS to be McCollum..if not Rob has me stumped... Again lol

94_MagicFan · Post #204 » by **94_MagicFan** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:56 am

Def Swami wrote:
NBA Legion ‏@MySportsLegion 1m
The Bucks and Wizards are involved in trade discussions that would send Ersan Ilyasova to Washington for the 3rd overall pick.

Just be glad Otis smith is gone and that's not us trading our pick

doct3r dr3 · Post #205 » by **doct3r dr3** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 5:19 am

Noel's rehab purportedly making great progress.

Chad Ford wrote:How worried should the Cleveland Cavaliers and other teams be about Nerlens Noel's knee? Noel's surgeon, Dr. James Andrews, is confident that Noel's rehab is going well.

"We're really happy with his progress," Andrews told ESPN in a phone interview. "He's several weeks ahead of schedule on his rehab. He's improving on a weekly basis. He has a completely stable knee. The bone plugs are completely healed into the bone. His muscle and weight is returning. He has had no setbacks at all."

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog/_/n ... draft-buzz

rcklsscognition · Post #206 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 5:29 am

Noel looked great in the video of rehab. I have no qualms of taking him at #2 if he's there.

Smooth_E · Post #207 » by **Smooth_E** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 5:53 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Noel looked great in the video of rehab. I have no qualms of taking him at #2 if he's there.

Declarations like these are to BMP what the Bat Signal is to Batman. Just saying.

PeePee la Fritz · Post #208 » by **PeePee la Fritz** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 5:57 am

Smooth_E wrote:
rcklsscognition wrote:Noel looked great in the video of rehab. I have no qualms of taking him at #2 if he's there.

Declarations like these are to BMP what the Bat Signal is to Batman. Just saying.

true story

Ahmadab · Post #209 » by **Ahmadab** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 7:47 am

Kinda OT, but here's T-Mac on Duncan signing in Orlando

“We were talking about that the other day on the bus, I told him that I was pissed that he didn’t sign down there,” McGrady said. “He told me that Pops convinced him to come back. That was the draw for him. I knew it would be tough to sign him, but that would have been awesome.”

http://www.hoopsworld.com/mcgrady-discu ... nba-finals

rcklsscognition · Post #210 » by **rcklsscognition** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 9:09 am

Some rumblings about the cavs looking for immediate help this year to make playoffs and lure lebron back in 2014. I doubt they pick Noel if that's the case, could use Porter the most. Mclemore could help but is a bit overkill with Waiters.

Post #211 » by **Bensational** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 10:38 am

If we're looking to trade down it would be because there isn't enough separating a #2 pick and the guy we want to take later. In fact, there's every chance whoever we value later in the draft (McCollum/MCW/Burke) might be better than the perceived #2 option.

Nyce_1 · Post #212 » by **Nyce_1** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 11:10 am

The Orlando Magic have arrived... Matt Lloyd and Rob Hennigan just arrived after flight delays #adidasEurocamp

AddiFB · Post #213 » by **AddiFB** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 12:02 pm

I bet Rob is the most handsome GM/scout/moneyman there. He and JJ were the most handsome SG/GM duo of all time, proven by scientific studies at Emerson College, now they've been seperated and Rob is on a mission to find himself a very handsome, ridiculously photogenic Euro to fill in the hole JJ left. The fangirls (and some fanboys) of the Orlando Magic demand it.

Post #214 » by **Bensational** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 12:42 pm

AddiFB wrote:I bet Rob is the most handsome GM/scout/moneyman there. He and JJ were the most handsome SG/GM duo of all time, proven by scientific studies at Emerson College, now they've been seperated and Rob is on a mission to find himself a very handsome, ridiculously photogenic Euro to fill in the hole JJ left. The fangirls (and some fanboys) of the Orlando Magic demand it.

The Orlando Handsome

Has a nice ring to it.

AddiFB · Post #215 » by **AddiFB** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:06 pm

Rob is on it. Insider info. Trust me. Got this from Brian Schmitz. It's going down.

Smooth_E · Post #216 » by **Smooth_E** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 1:42 pm

I've personally bought into the idea that we end up with McCollum via Timberwolves' #9 for most likely our #2 Victor Oladipo.

I'm not sure what the other pieces are, hopefully their #26 is headed our way too. I'd be really happy to have Derrick Williams come off the bench in a sixth man role.

meatwad4343 · Post #217 » by **meatwad4343** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 2:05 pm

Smooth_E wrote:I've personally bought into the idea that we end up with McCollum via Timberwolves' #9 for most likely our #2 Victor Oladipo.

I'm not sure what the other pieces are, hopefully their #26 is headed our way too. I'd be really happy to have Derrick Williams come off the bench in a sixth man role.

idk why we'd do that. we're trading out of #2 for essentially a 2nd round pick and a guy who has proven nothing in this league and is pretty much a bust. i think we'd be a lot better off just sitting at 2.

Post #218 » by **Def Swami** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:18 pm

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA 6h
Hearing that Cavs management can do what they want with draft and free agency but must make the playoffs.

Steve Kyler ‏@stevekylerNBA 6h
“@kennethmacleod: Does that make Noels at number 1 highly unlikely now if the Cavs keep the pick?” ---> very much so.

Smooth_E · Post #219 » by **Smooth_E** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:21 pm

meatwad4343 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:I've personally bought into the idea that we end up with McCollum via Timberwolves' #9 for most likely our #2 Victor Oladipo.

I'm not sure what the other pieces are, hopefully their #26 is headed our way too. I'd be really happy to have Derrick Williams come off the bench in a sixth man role.

idk why we'd do that. we're trading out of #2 for essentially a 2nd round pick and a guy who has proven nothing in this league and is pretty much a bust. i think we'd be a lot better off just sitting at 2.

Way to assume. How is McCollum a second round pick? Also, Williams may have not become the star the Wolves wanted him to be, but he's not necessarily a bust. Remember, I did say sixth man, not starter. He has proved that he has athleticism, 3 point range and ability to drive the lane. To me, that is not a bust. Not a star, again, but not a bust either. He still has much potential.

KillMonger · Post #220 » by **KillMonger** » Sun Jun 9, 2013 3:21 pm

meatwad4343 wrote:
Smooth_E wrote:I've personally bought into the idea that we end up with McCollum via Timberwolves' #9 for most likely our #2 Victor Oladipo.

I'm not sure what the other pieces are, hopefully their #26 is headed our way too. I'd be really happy to have Derrick Williams come off the bench in a sixth man role.

idk why we'd do that. we're trading out of #2 for essentially a 2nd round pick and a guy who has proven nothing in this league and is pretty much a bust. i think we'd be a lot better off just sitting at 2.

that's a loaded statement, every prospect haven't proven anything yet. Just leave the talent evaluations to the experts, in this case just trust in Henny. McCollum is a fine prospect

Edit, just realized you were talking about Williams my apologies

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