Knight, the Team and Mo's Influence

[Blkbrd671]

A lot of discussion in the media surrounding Mo's hiring report that B. Knights development may have been one of the reasons why he was chosen. While i think that it did play a role, i think his development of players overall including pg is the reason we hired him. He tends to focus on players strengths rather than weaknesses.

The reason why BK was specifically picked out of the group is because of Cheeks history with Westbri-ook. He is credited with RW's development and specifically keeping his mental game in check. I found this interesting as i believe one of BK's largest problems is his mental game.

While watching our team, i think the biggest problem we had was our mental game. We couldn't close games because we didn't know how. One game we look like we are contending for a title the next we look like the bobcats. We didn't have one consistent player all year that showed up energy wise and production wise.

My question to you is ,

do you think that Mo cheeks style of coaching is going to translate to improve production from any of our players? and which ones? who will benefit the most?

Do you think Knight will become a better or more confused PG?


MO:

B. Knight has the vision and play making abilities to be a good pg in this league, what he lacks is the ability to get the ball from his hands to his teammates hands in a effective and controlled manner. He lacks pace and control. While more times than not he turns the ball over, its not because the pass or hole wasn't there, it was because he threw it to hard, or should have bounced it. etc The same goes for him and layups. B Knight most games can get to basket at will, what he lacks is the control to finish the play. What frustrates me the most about BK is that in one game he can have 8 TO's but orchestrate our offense for a entire quarter. What he lacks is consistency. If Mo cheeks can get brandon to settle, to take his time, to control the game. i believe Brandon can get to a RW status where there's simply no way you can guard him.

Also BK haters are going to hate this, but hiring Mo Cheeks almost guarantee's BK is on this team next season. The FO is going to have to get a can't turn down offer to give up the investment/ intrigue of what will happen when BK is paired with Cheeks.


Others:

Charlie Villaneva:
Guy went from the next lebron to scrub. He's probably the most hated player on our team and he knows it. i really think that if Mo can get him confident, the attitude surrounding charlie is going to change. One thing that i did appreciate last year from him was effort.


Rodney motha f* Stuckey:
i would be lying if acted like having cheeks and stuckey working together doesn't excite me. Stuckey goes from Dwade to Stuckey in matter of minutes in games. If anyone could benefit from learning to be mentally tough its, rodney. HOWEVER i think stuckey has already checked out and i am not going to get suckered into another year. So i hope he's traded.


*Having said all that, i'm pretty sure both CV and Stuckey probably get traded.

[Jodi]

If we hire Cheeks I think Knight and Monroe will benefit the most...Knight has the talent, I can see it, all he needs is someone to mentor him or someone to give him pointers on the game...If everything you said about Cheeks is true, I think Knight will be become a good combo guard...

[HotelVitale]

BK's got a lot of room for growth and I think he improves this year, and I'm kind of excited that he's going to be given a good opportunity to run free under Cheeks. But a few things make me wonder if we should really be expecting much out from Cheeks himself.

First, I'm not sure Cheeks actually has a good record as a developer of players, let alone what we'd expect of a miracle worker. He seems to have done well with Westbrook but he was a head coach for many years before that. I don't recall anything saying that he did a great job with young backcourt talent on the Blazers or 76ers...and none of those teams had young guys who flourished under Cheeks.

Second, Westbrook is a much different player than BK. Westbrook was a top-4 pick with outstanding size and athleticism, and he needed to learn how to harness these advantages. He got much better every year he played--12/5/5 his rookie season, 16/5/8 with a PER of 18 his second year, before making the leap to superstar (23/5/8, PER of 23) his 3rd year. BK doesn't have his physical advantages and can't just play wild and loose like Westbrook. He's got to learn to make great decisions and cover more ground. There's a chance that Cheeks is just a good general influence on point guards, but I can't see what he taught Westbrook transferring perfectly to teaching BK.

I agree that Stuckey could really benefit from someone giving him a lot of attention and putting him a position to succeed. I still think he could turn it around and be a dynamite 6th man. Maybe all it will take is a coaching change?

[ImHeisenberg]

The Inconsistent Knight Rises!

Brandon's much like Batman, as we're the citizens of Gotham, we don't know who he really is.

Stuckey is Stuckey at this point. Cheeks isn't going to break him of a pretty full career of being a bonehead and a bad teammate. I'm hoping he's long gone by training camp.

Hopefully Cheeks gets something out of Knight this year. Heck, hopefully Knight can stay healthy!

[ComboGuardCity]

The Inconsistent Knight Rises!

Brandon's much like Batman, as we're the citizens of Gotham, we don't know who he really is.

[ChipButty]

I'd be more apt to believe the spin if I could actually find a quote from Russel Westbrook regarding Mo Cheeks? Instead, all I find is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wLTGvp5ctU

In comparison it's fairly easy to find quotes from Paul George and Lance Stephenson crediting Brian Shaw for helping them become better players.

Why focus on Westbrook (who was basically already a star) and not Maynor. I wonder what Mo's opinion is of Eric Maynor and why did he look so much better after leaving OKC. Maybe he could be a guy to look at in FA.

[Clarity]

I read "Charlie V went from being the next Lebron..." like 10x

[Piston Pete]

There were 3 games where Knight started mid-season last year. We traded for Calderon, but he had Visa issues, IIRC, and didn't play.

Albeit a very small sample size, Knight played well over that 3-game span minus Prince.

Those 3 game averages (against LAL, CLE with Kyrie playing, and IND) for Knight:

12.33 points, 7 assists, 4 rebounds, 1.66 TOs, 1.66 steals

[The_Irony]

Charlie Villaneva:
Guy went from the next lebron to scrub. He's probably the most hated player on our team and he knows it. i really think that if Mo can get him confident, the attitude surrounding charlie is going to change. One thing that i did appreciate last year from him was effort.

[kurtis48239]

I feel like this is the same hiring as frank 2 years ago,at first everyone hated it then convinced themselfs that he could be the one.I dont think cheeks will be any different than frank,we need a vet coach who actually has a pedigre and can mold this team,not another asistant coach who comes from a wining team and expect them to bring that here.Their was alot better choices out there,and who I would much rather take a flier on and swing for the fences then play it safe and go for another frank.If gores was being true to his words and was ready to spend I doubt a coach wouldnt have come here just because of dumars.This just really pisses me off as a pistons fan that gores/dumars **** the bed on the coaching hire,when we are on such a good track.

[ImHeisenberg]

The Inconsistent Knight Rises!

Brandon's much like Batman, as we're the citizens of Gotham, we don't know who he really is.

He's not the point guard Pistons fans want, but the point guard they deserve!

"Turnovers, sir?"

"Turnovers frighten me Alfred. I want my team to share my fears."

[dVs33]

The Inconsistent Knight Rises!

Brandon's much like Batman, as we're the citizens of Gotham, we don't know who he really is.

He's not the point guard Pistons fans want, but the point guard they deserve!

"Turnovers, sir?"

"Turnovers frighten me Alfred. I want my team to share my fears."

[Clarity]

Charlie Villaneva:
Guy went from the next lebron to scrub. He's probably the most hated player on our team and he knows it. i really think that if Mo can get him confident, the attitude surrounding charlie is going to change. One thing that i did appreciate last year from him was effort.

Well said lol

[Blkbrd671]

Charlie Villaneva:
Guy went from the next lebron to scrub. He's probably the most hated player on our team and he knows it. i really think that if Mo can get him confident, the attitude surrounding charlie is going to change. One thing that i did appreciate last year from him was effort.

look up CV coming out of HS. He was suppose to be the next big thing

[fekz]

knight's gonna become westbrook with the golden touch of "mo checks"

i can see it now....

[Blkbrd671]

I'd be more apt to believe the spin if I could actually find a quote from Russel Westbrook regarding Mo Cheeks? Instead, all I find is this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wLTGvp5ctU

In comparison it's fairly easy to find quotes from Paul George and Lance Stephenson crediting Brian Shaw for helping them become better players.

Why focus on Westbrook (who was basically already a star) and not Maynor. I wonder what Mo's opinion is of Eric Maynor and why did he look so much better after leaving OKC. Maybe he could be a guy to look at in FA.

You make a very good point, however Maynor looked better after leaving okc because he wasn't in the shadow of harden, durant,westbrook, jackson, ibabka. More minutes, and better offensive system.

i really don't have a counter point to your argument . You are right that Westbrook has never credited Mo or anybody for that matter, however i would think OKC FO and Coaches would know if Mo cheeks was having any sort of influence on Russel, and if he wasn't doing his job, he would have been gone a long time ago.

[Blkbrd671]

I read "Charlie V went from being the next Lebron..." like 10x

Charlie V was part of that HS group between 03-05 that were suppose to change the NBA. Highly touted out of HS. My point was , at some point in CV's career, he was expected to be great. CV this year really intrigues me because last season we saw climpses of what he is capable of doing spreading the floor for Dre, if Mo can get him confident, CV will be a major role player on our 2nd unit

[Blkbrd671]

I feel like this is the same hiring as frank 2 years ago,at first everyone hated it then convinced themselfs that he could be the one.I dont think cheeks will be any different than frank,we need a vet coach who actually has a pedigre and can mold this team,not another asistant coach who comes from a wining team and expect them to bring that here.

i have the same feeling, i do recall being hyped up on frank 2 years ago. i'm trying to remain optimistic. The difference between Frank and Mo is that Mo is a basketball player. He knows the grind and he can relate. He's also a NBA champion, so he knows what it takes to win.

Their was alot better choices out there,and who I would much rather take a flier on and swing for the fences then play it safe and go for another frank.If gores was being true to his words and was ready to spend I doubt a coach wouldnt have come here just because of dumars.This just really pisses me off as a pistons fan that gores/dumars **** the bed on the coaching hire,when we are on such a good track.

Jury's still out, History says your right. This decision was made with Joe D's head on the line. So it was well thought out. Going to be interesting to see if Joe D really knows what he's doing since this is his pick

[JD43320]

A lot of discussion in the media surrounding Mo's hiring report that B. Knights development may have been one of the reasons why he was chosen. While i think that it did play a role, i think his development of players overall including pg is the reason we hired him. He tends to focus on players strengths rather than weaknesses.

The reason why BK was specifically picked out of the group is because of Cheeks history with Westbri-ook. He is credited with RW's development and specifically keeping his mental game in check. I found this interesting as i believe one of BK's largest problems is his mental game.

While watching our team, i think the biggest problem we had was our mental game. We couldn't close games because we didn't know how. One game we look like we are contending for a title the next we look like the bobcats. We didn't have one consistent player all year that showed up energy wise and production wise.

My question to you is ,

do you think that Mo cheeks style of coaching is going to translate to improve production from any of our players? and which ones? who will benefit the most?

Do you think Knight will become a better or more confused PG?


MO:

B. Knight has the vision and play making abilities to be a good pg in this league, what he lacks is the ability to get the ball from his hands to his teammates hands in a effective and controlled manner. He lacks pace and control. While more times than not he turns the ball over, its not because the pass or hole wasn't there, it was because he threw it to hard, or should have bounced it. etc The same goes for him and layups. B Knight most games can get to basket at will, what he lacks is the control to finish the play. What frustrates me the most about BK is that in one game he can have 8 TO's but orchestrate our offense for a entire quarter. What he lacks is consistency. If Mo cheeks can get brandon to settle, to take his time, to control the game. i believe Brandon can get to a RW status where there's simply no way you can guard him.

Also BK haters are going to hate this, but hiring Mo Cheeks almost guarantee's BK is on this team next season. The FO is going to have to get a can't turn down offer to give up the investment/ intrigue of what will happen when BK is paired with Cheeks.


Others:

Charlie Villaneva:
Guy went from the next lebron to scrub. He's probably the most hated player on our team and he knows it. i really think that if Mo can get him confident, the attitude surrounding charlie is going to change. One thing that i did appreciate last year from him was effort.


Rodney motha f* Stuckey:
i would be lying if acted like having cheeks and stuckey working together doesn't excite me. Stuckey goes from Dwade to Stuckey in matter of minutes in games. If anyone could benefit from learning to be mentally tough its, rodney. HOWEVER i think stuckey has already checked out and i am not going to get suckered into another year. So i hope he's traded.


*Having said all that, i'm pretty sure both CV and Stuckey probably get traded.

LISTEN TO THIS MAN! HE KNOWS BASKETBALL!!!!!!!

After Jesus Cheeks turns Knight into Westbrook, Stuckey into prime Wade and fixes CV so he finally reaches his Bron like potential just think of what he will do with the rest of the roster!

Singler will win the dunk contest and lead the league in 3pt fg%.

Dre will become a 90% free throw shooter.

Moose will extend the range on his jumper to 40ft and finish second in the NBA in blocks behind Dre (who will set the NBA record).

Middleton will win most improved player and have a 50 40 90 season.

Jose Calderon (if he's smart enough to re-sign) will make 2nd team all NBA defense (would be first team Mo Christ hadn't worked his magic on Stuckey and Knight too).

We won't even need to sign any free agents. After we win the title next year half the league will fold. They will all give up hope of winning a title until Mo retires. The Lakers, Heat, Celtics, Knicks, Thunder, Spurs and Stern will conspire to have Cheeks murdered so that they have a chance at winning. Stu Jackson will betray Mo Christ at the press conference where he is to announce that all NBA awards will now be named after Jesus Cheeks. The fallout of this disgusting betrayal will make World War 2 look like a picnic. Nations will fall. Cultures will vanish from the Earth. 4.279 billion people will die! Those that survive this horror will go on to build the greatest civilization in the history of history. Peace on Earth will reign for ten thousand millennia in honor of Cheeks.

[Blkbrd671]

LISTEN TO THIS MAN! HE KNOWS BASKETBALL!!!!!!!

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