Draft prospects @ 10

Post #1241 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:40 pm

The Blazers can use a player at any position. SG is probably the one position I would least worry about at this point with Matthews, Barton and even Batum. I still believe the Blazers will resign Elliott Williams, as well. Every other position is wide open for backups and perhaps a starting center.

DusterBuster · Post #1242 » by **DusterBuster** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:45 pm

Billy wrote:Olapido is a hard one to peg as he's projected anywhere between #2 - #8 or 9 depending on the mock. I see him as a guy that could possibly fall into our laps simply because he's the type that I feel GM's fall in love with early and fall out of love with late.

Interesting you should point that out. Just as recently as this morning I saw a tweet from a reporter who quoted a GM who said something to the effect of, 'There's a lot of guys in this draft who're going to average 8 or 9 points for their career and Oladipo is one of them.' Whether or not that one GM's opinion is league wide, who knows, but he's definitely someone that's impossible to pin down.

EDIT: Here's the tweet:

Sam Amico @SamAmicoFSO about 6 hours ago
NBA GM on Indiana G Victor Oladipo: "Great D. But lots of guys in this draft will average 8 or 9 points for their career. He'a one of them."

As for Shabazz, word just came out that he apparently had a really strong workout and interview with the Kings. He might still go Top 10 yet.

DusterBuster · Post #1243 » by **DusterBuster** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 8:54 pm

DaVoiceMaster wrote:The Blazers can use a player at any position. SG is probably the one position I would least worry about at this point with Matthews, Barton and even Batum. I still believe the Blazers will resign Elliott Williams, as well. Every other position is wide open for backups and perhaps a starting center.

I really hope they don't bother. That money/roster spot could be put to so much better use than on a guy who's body clearly can't withstand the rigors of the NBA. I feel bad for the guy, but this is a business and he's not worth the investment anymore.

Post #1244 » by **DeBlazerRiddem** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 9:31 pm

DusterBuster wrote:As for Shabazz, word just came out that he apparently had a really strong workout and interview with the Kings. He might still go Top 10 yet.

He is just their kind of player.

Clarity · Post #1245 » by **Clarity** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:16 pm

Its funny that people are just now finding out that Oladipo's ceiling is Tony Allen.

He gives you a great motor, potentially elite defense but little offense.

Clarity · Post #1246 » by **Clarity** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 10:20 pm

DeBlazerRiddem wrote:
DusterBuster wrote:As for Shabazz, word just came out that he apparently had a really strong workout and interview with the Kings. He might still go Top 10 yet.

He is just their kind of player.

Not really, Sac usually passes on the BPA.

They passed on Knight/Walker for Jimmer
They passed on Lillard/Drummond/Barnes for Robinson

I expect them to take someone like Tyler Zeller when Shabazz or McCollum are still on the board.

Village Idiot · Post #1247 » by **Village Idiot** » Tue Jun 11, 2013 11:00 pm

Clarity wrote:Its funny that people are just now finding out that Oladipo's ceiling is Tony Allen.

He gives you a great motor, potentially elite defense but little offense.

how did Westbrook Project coming out of UCLA?

Players develop. Okadipo has, every year...

lukeyrid13 · Post #1248 » by **lukeyrid13** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 12:41 am

If the Kings pick Shabazz they will officially become the greatest 24 hour fitness squad of all time.

Norm2953 · Post #1249 » by **Norm2953** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:19 am

I understand from Chad Ford's updated blog that Shabazz has worked out with
Phoenix, Philly and Sacramento and has workouts scheduled with Minnesota,
Portland and Utah. The scouts seem to like his competitive fire and are down
a bit on McLemore who refused a group workout with Oladipo and Shabazz.

MCW who has his detractors on this board might yet be the first PG taken ahead
of Burke who also refused to workout against MCW and McCollum. It appears
MCW will go either the Kings or Pistons. I'm thinking the Blazers might yet have
a choice between Zeller and McCollum with Shabazz a possibility if he has a
tremendous workout in front of Paul Allen. All in all, Portland's going to get a
decent player at 10 which is helpful.

Clarity · Post #1250 » by **Clarity** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 1:35 am

Village Idiot wrote:
Clarity wrote:Its funny that people are just now finding out that Oladipo's ceiling is Tony Allen.

He gives you a great motor, potentially elite defense but little offense.
how did Westbrook Project coming out of UCLA?

Players develop. Okadipo has, every year...

No where did I say he cant develop, heck he needs to develop to become Tony Allen. I'm a fan of Oladipo.

The Westbrook comparison is a bit off being hes a PG with a skill set Oladipo doesnt have.

Case2012 · Post #1251 » by **Case2012** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:10 am

I'm starting to feel like the players projected to go top 10 are all going to be busts. The players in the late lotto and mid to late first round seem like the guys who will have long careers as decent borderline starters and serviceable back ups.

And by busts I mean tremendous disappointments.Just a gut feeling.

Blazinaway · Post #1252 » by **Blazinaway** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:49 am

Case2012 wrote:I'm starting to feel like the players projected to go top 10 are all going to be busts. The players in the late lotto and mid to late first round seem like the guys who will have long careers as decent borderline starters and serviceable back ups.

And by busts I mean tremendous disappointments.Just a gut feeling.

yeak, sorta feels like a Twilight Zone draft for those who remember, I can hear Rod Serling in the background

JD45 · Post #1253 » by **JD45** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 2:53 am

Clarity wrote:
The Westbrook comparison is a bit off being hes a PG with a skill set Oladipo doesnt have.

Westbrook was a SG at UCLA. He had farther to develop than Oladipo does.

Clarity · Post #1254 » by **Clarity** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 3:56 am

JD45 wrote:
Clarity wrote:
The Westbrook comparison is a bit off being hes a PG with a skill set Oladipo doesnt have.

Westbrook was a SG at UCLA. He had farther to develop than Oladipo does.

Westbrook has always been a combo guard.

& Oladipo has never had the ball skills or speed Westbrook has so the comparison is silly.

Shem · Post #1255 » by **Shem** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 5:42 am

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GreenRiddler · Post #1256 » by **GreenRiddler** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:03 am

looks like a good workout for Zeller.

lukeyrid13 · Post #1257 » by **lukeyrid13** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:15 am

People are getting too caught up in the fact that we need a defensive big and overlooking Zeller. Dieng, Adams or Gobert will do nothing to help us next year so we'd still have a void at center. I'd rather take Zeller who doesn't have the defensive potential but will be a solid rotational big.

Talent Chaser · Post #1258 » by **Talent Chaser** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:23 am

lukeyrid13 wrote:People are getting too caught up in the fact that we need a defensive big and overlooking Zeller. Dieng, Adams or Gobert will do nothing to help us next year so we'd still have a void at center. I'd rather take Zeller who doesn't have the defensive potential but will be a solid rotational big.

I agree, Zeller has much more skill and is simply a better basketball player than the guys you listed. Potential is SO over-rated, I mean how many of picks drafted off potential ever pan out? It was to be less than 10%. Draft the most polished player who had basketball skills because players very rarely reach their "potential", especially in the NBA.

Post #1259 » by **DaVoiceMaster** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:24 am

DusterBuster wrote:
DaVoiceMaster wrote:The Blazers can use a player at any position. SG is probably the one position I would least worry about at this point with Matthews, Barton and even Batum. I still believe the Blazers will resign Elliott Williams, as well. Every other position is wide open for backups and perhaps a starting center.

I really hope they don't bother. That money/roster spot could be put to so much better use than on a guy who's body clearly can't withstand the rigors of the NBA. I feel bad for the guy, but this is a business and he's not worth the investment anymore.

I just can't understand why else they did not waive him when trading for Maynor. Granted, they didn't really need Price, but why not waive the guy who can't play this year?

Butter · Post #1260 » by **Butter** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 6:25 am

lukeyrid13 wrote:People are getting too caught up in the fact that we need a defensive big and overlooking Zeller. Dieng, Adams or Gobert will do nothing to help us next year so we'd still have a void at center. I'd rather take Zeller who doesn't have the defensive potential but will be a solid rotational big.

To me, Zeller is just not an NBA center. He might be a really good PF though. If the draft him for depth behind LMA, and spot minutes at center I'm good with that.

Then if Zeller really shines, its easier to consider trade offers for LMA. It would be really nice to get the Mavs #13 to get another wing though.