Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets

[GoSixersBro]

Maybe if he went to a team that wasnt a rival last year. Hes going to have to gain the respect of the players that fought against him last year in a leadership type role. Granted hes a respected player around the league especially in that organization, there will still be a barrier he will have to overcome to make that transition fully.

Yeah I bet Andray Blatche will throw a gatorade cooler at him the first practice.

Kidd was a Knick for one year. He is remembered most as a Net and I don't think players will hold a grudge against a hall of fame caliber point guard that will now be their head coach.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

The Nets once again prove why they will go nowhere. Much like Dolan they are obsessed with winning the back pages of the post and Daily News rather than taking steps that will pay long-term dividends.

If you look at the best coaches recently in the NBA they either never played (Pop, Tibs) or spent many years coaching either as an assistant or in the minor leagues before taking the head chair (Jackson, Carlisle).

I have no idea whether Kidd can coach and neither do the Nets but the logic behind the hire is quite awful.

What about doc rivers? Guess Orlando didn't use logic either in 1999 yet he's one of the best coaches in the game today yet, you fail to bring him up and bring up one of his ex assistants in thibs. Smart people make good coaches and that's a fact. No experience required.

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[Trader_Joe]

The Nets once again prove why they will go nowhere. Much like Dolan they are obsessed with winning the back pages of the post and Daily News rather than taking steps that will pay long-term dividends.

If you look at the best coaches recently in the NBA they either never played (Pop, Tibs) or spent many years coaching either as an assistant or in the minor leagues before taking the head chair (Jackson, Carlisle).

I have no idea whether Kidd can coach and neither do the Nets but the logic behind the hire is quite awful.

Rivers, Bird and M.Jax all did pretty well.
As did Skiles (at first.. only assistant for 20 games), Lenny Wilkins and Don Nelson.

Who would you suggest they hire (keeping in mind the other person would have to want the job and Shaw's preference has been LAC all along from everything I have read) ?
He would have been my choice FWIW, but an unrealistic one.

And again.. this why they have said his assistants have to be top notch and why names like Frank, Larry Brown, Alvin Gentry and others have been floated around.

[MikeM]

Great relationship with D-Will helped get him hired for sure.

[DarkXaero]

The Nets once again prove why they will go nowhere. Much like Dolan they are obsessed with winning the back pages of the post and Daily News rather than taking steps that will pay long-term dividends.

If you look at the best coaches recently in the NBA they either never played (Pop, Tibs) or spent many years coaching either as an assistant or in the minor leagues before taking the head chair (Jackson, Carlisle).

I have no idea whether Kidd can coach and neither do the Nets but the logic behind the hire is quite awful.

Rivers, Bird and M.Jax all did pretty well.

Who would you suggest they hire (keeping in mind the other person would have to want the job and Shaw's preference has been LAC all along from everything I have read) ?
He would have been my choice FWIW, but an unrealistic one.

And again.. this why they have said his assistants have to be top notch and why names like Frank, Larry Brown, Alvin Gentry and others have been floated around.

I don't know why you keep saying that about Shaw's preference. I believe that if the Nets really wanted Shaw, they would get him. They can simply double what the Clippers are offering Shaw in salary, and I highly doubt that anyone would turn down that offer. The markets are similar (LA and NYC), the rosters are similar (Clippers have the edge but not by that much), and there is a massive difference in the ownership (Nets win huge here). But Nets seem to want Kidd for whatever reason. Maybe as a publicity stunt, or because they really believe that he can be great for them, or a likely combination of both.

[Trader_Joe]

I don't know why you keep saying that about Shaw's preference. I believe that if the Nets really wanted Shaw, they would get him. They can simply double what the Clippers are offering Shaw in salary, and I highly doubt that anyone would turn down that offer. The markets are similar (LA and NYC), the rosters are similar (Clippers have the edge but not by that much), and there is a massive difference in the ownership (Nets win huge here). But Nets seem to want Kidd for whatever reason. Maybe as a publicity stunt, or because they really believe that he can be great for them, or a likely combination of both.

From everything I've read for the last couple weeks Shaw liked LA a lot.

Again his family is there, he has history winning there, the roster has arguably more talent and is more flexible, the weather is nicer, etc.

But not only that, you can't assume he would take the job just for money which would be the main factor. It's his decision and several factors would go into it.

But I'll remind people this isn't over:
Fred Kerber ‏@FredKerber 27s
Lengthy Brian Shaw and #Nets brass meeting was “very good.” So now we wait

Though I think he met with Shaw as a formality and not to offend D.Walsh who King is close with.

[Dupp]

Seems dumb to me. Kidd has the ability to be a good coach but it just seems too soon. You need some experience and time in the system.

[DatHomieYouHaTe]

Seems dumb to me. Kidd has the ability to be a good coach but it just seems too soon. You need some experience and time in the system.

Doc rivers begs to differ. Larry bird as well.

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[sp6r=underrated]

What about doc rivers? Guess Orlando didn't use logic either in 1999 yet he's one of the best coaches in the game today yet, you fail to bring him up and bring up one of his ex assistants in thibs. Smart people make good coaches and that's a fact. No experience required.

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The early coaching career of Doc Rivers is very sporadic and supports the position that prior coaching experience helps. He eventually figured out but he was roasted as a poor coach throughout his early career. Coaching a basketball team is a mentally demanding job. Prior experience helps in all mentally demanding jobs. Coaching isn't different.

Rivers, Bird and M.Jax all did pretty well.
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I discussed Rivers above. Jackson is trash and this will be exposed while Bird inherited a veteran club that had already made numerous deep playoff runs. There are also a ton of players who got hired for prior playing experience and sucked as a coach.

My main problem with the hire is the logic behind it. I am convinced the Nets just want a big name to be their head coach because their owner is upset w/crap like that.

If you can convince me I'm wrong that that is the reason the Nets want Kidd I will back off of my criticism of the move.

[lakersin4]

His peers speak very highly of him & his leadership skills & the culture he brings to teams.. There are some good established coaches out there but I wouldn't bet against JKidd to become one of the all time greats. The Nets won't be contending until they get rid of those terrible contracts, so if you can spend those couple seasons grooming a future HOF coach, why not.

[Knicks_Fan2]

I don't know why you keep saying that about Shaw's preference. I believe that if the Nets really wanted Shaw, they would get him. They can simply double what the Clippers are offering Shaw in salary, and I highly doubt that anyone would turn down that offer. The markets are similar (LA and NYC), the rosters are similar (Clippers have the edge but not by that much), and there is a massive difference in the ownership (Nets win huge here). But Nets seem to want Kidd for whatever reason. Maybe as a publicity stunt, or because they really believe that he can be great for them, or a likely combination of both.

From everything I've read for the last couple weeks Shaw liked LA a lot.

Again his family is there, he has history winning there, the roster has arguably more talent and is more flexible, the weather is nicer, etc.

But not only that, you can't assume he would take the job just for money which would be the main factor. It's his decision and several factors would go into it.

But I'll remind people this isn't over:
Fred Kerber ‏@FredKerber 27s
Lengthy Brian Shaw and #Nets brass meeting was “very good.” So now we wait

Though I think he met with Shaw as a formality and not to offend D.Walsh who King is close with.

Money always talks.

[Trader_Joe]

Money always talks.

It does, but at the same time if Shaw really wanted Brooklyn I don't think there would have been so many tweets and leaks that he wants to be in LA and also, I don't want a coach that comes here for the money, I want a coach that really wants to be here.. and apparently Kidd does... badly.

I dunno.. I've thought for a while Shaw was going to LAC and it looks to be the case. I don't see much, if anything, changing that.

[DivineFury]

Wonder if there is a DUI clause in his contract, perhaps a yearly limit? Seriously though, will be an interesting story for next year.

[Trader_Joe]

Wonder if there is a DUI clause in his contract, perhaps a yearly limit? Seriously though, will be an interesting story for next year.

Why yes!
He's allowed:

1 DWI per year (2 if they make the Finals)
1 assault per year
1 Migraine per year
He can get 1 assistant coach fired per year
Have 1 kid with an over-sized head per year
And he's allowed to turn the organization around 360 degrees as often as he wants (or any multiple of 360)

[HelloBrooklyn]

Not my fault you weren't watching the Nets closely that final year of Kidd with the Nets. RJ was definitely the leader. Vince ONLY became leader AFTER Kidd left (he was great the following year with Devin & Brook) but as a huge VC fan even I know he & Kidd were poor leaders the final year Kidd was a Nets.

As much a VC homer I am, you seem a Kidd homer. There is such things as empty triple doubles. He was playing for his stats more than for the team so he can "prove" to Thorn & the league he deserved an extension. When you cheat passing lanes all the time to get steals instead of playing fundamental defense, when you force passes to get assists to rack up your stats you are playing selfish. Any real Nets fan that year knows Kidd played selfishly.

Even those wanting Kidd for HC are saying without a strong assistant coaching team he will look bad...nuff said.

Lol again... He is not the leader... Read what Trader Joe wrote.

You also realize that when Kidd left RJ left right after right?

Also all I have to say is.. When Josh Boone was your 4th best player. There is a problem with the team. Kidd wasn't able to play his game (like pass the ball). You also talked about how he pad his stats. So tell me how the hell did he pad his stats?? Your examples are cheating on passing lanes? Did Kidd average 3 SPG? no he average a normal 1.5 steals per game. You say he force his passes??? Who the hell did he passes it too? Josh Boone? So can you tell me how the hell did he pad his stats when he was averaging 11/10/8?

Was it the rebounding? because you know if you watch the games that year? We had Josh Boone as our best front-court player.

You are an obvious Kidd hater.

Also i didn't even like Kidd that much the time he was a Net. I really thought RJ, K-Mart was the real deal until I saw them without him. I started liking him0 when I saw the other point guard the Nets acquire like Harris and D-Will. Those players showed me how great Kidd really is in comparison to them.

Look at what he even did to RJ. He made him look like he was a great defender yet when he came to the bucks he flopped. and if you don't remember RJ was on comparison on Luol Deng on defense.

Also people are saying he needs good assistant just because the lack of experience he has. Which is understandable. So no one think he will be a bad coach he is just a question mark

[KGboss]

Maybe if he went to a team that wasnt a rival last year. Hes going to have to gain the respect of the players that fought against him last year in a leadership type role. Granted hes a respected player around the league especially in that organization, there will still be a barrier he will have to overcome to make that transition fully.

Yeah I bet Andray Blatche will throw a gatorade cooler at him the first practice.

Kidd was a Knick for one year. He is remembered most as a Net and I don't think players will hold a grudge against a hall of fame caliber point guard that will now be their head coach.

None of you got what I was saying obviously, and just focused on the rivalry part. There is still a barrier that he is going to have to cross to get him recognized in a transition from player to coach. A lot of respect, through different eyes will have to be earned. You can respect a man on the court, its a very different respect than the respect of a coach recieves/or doesnt recieve for that matter.

And to another topic people keep bringing up, this brooklyn team is not a win now team. They still need a main piece to get them over that hump. The nets as currently constituted will not win anything anytime soon. Sorry to burst bubbles but thats just how it is.

[Trader_Joe]

Maybe if he went to a team that wasnt a rival last year. Hes going to have to gain the respect of the players that fought against him last year in a leadership type role. Granted hes a respected player around the league especially in that organization, there will still be a barrier he will have to overcome to make that transition fully.

Yeah I bet Andray Blatche will throw a gatorade cooler at him the first practice.

Kidd was a Knick for one year. He is remembered most as a Net and I don't think players will hold a grudge against a hall of fame caliber point guard that will now be their head coach.

None of you got what I was saying obviously, and just focused on the rivalry part. There is still a barrier that he is going to have to cross to get him recognized in a transition from player to coach. A lot of respect, through different eyes will have to be earned. You can respect a man on the court, its a very different respect than the respect of a coach recieves/or doesnt recieve for that matter.

And to another topic people keep bringing up, this brooklyn team is not a win now team. They still need a main piece to get them over that hump. The nets as currently constituted will not win anything anytime soon. Sorry to burst bubbles but thats just how it is.

Except he's never had a hard time garnering the respect of his teammates or coaches wherever he has gone over a 20 year career. This isn't JR Smith they are hiring, or even a respected PG like Chris Paul.. it's a first ballot HOF, one of the greatest PGs of all time and arguably the greatest Net in team history.

I also don't see any players or personalities on the Nets who wouldn't by into this day 1. D.Will will, which is the most important.

[HotRocks34]

Without a doubt Kidd has one of the highest BBall IQ's I've ever seen. If you can't learn from him, or don't respect him, you have issues.

Do I have issues? How about all the kids at SJHS and even Cal when he re-appeared very infrequently at scheduled events and talked down to kids and was extremely impatient?

Whats to respect? Its easy to say that from the context of a fan, but what do you really know about the guy? I've had to work with him, and unless in the past 5 years he's done a complete 180, I find him to be an entirely disgusting human being, top to bottom. And that was even before his wife issues.

Good luck to BKN. I hope somehow they can be successful while Kidd isn't.

Wow. Well, I stand corrected. I knew Kidd had issues -- like the Joumana stuff and the recent DWI -- but not this bad.

My brother was at Cal when Kidd was there. He heard some not great stuff about Kidd, but I didn't realize it was to this extent.

Well, man, I hope Kidd can stop being a jerk to other people. Hopefully he can communicate with pro level players. He's smart, and has a lot to share. But he's going to have to work on his communication skills, apparently.

Thanks for the info!

[Winsome Gerbil]

Hahaha.

Wow. And to pull a stupid publicity stunt like this with a veteran team that pretty much is supposed to win immediately is pretty amazing. I guess Prokhorov is going to have to eat that win a title in 5 years talk.

[HotRocks34]

Just heard Woj on the radio. His take on Kidd hire:

"It should be wildly entertaining. One way or the other."

From what has been said in this thread regarding Kidd's personality, sounds about right.