Jason Kidd to Coach the Nets

Effigy · Post #181 » by **Effigy** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:21 am

CodyB_ wrote:
Gomagic44 wrote:
Angry Jimmy wrote:Mike Dunleavy played his last NBA game in 1990, and then was hired as the head coach of the Lakers the same year, and led them to the NBA finals before losing to the Bulls.

Freaking great point. I am a magic fan but Thankyou for the comparison. I for one don't admire Jason Kidd as a person. But his success on the court post player is yet to be seen.

That's a fact, though if your money is on anybody to make the transition then it's Kidd.

Maybe Nash. Maybe Billups. Maybe Grant Hill. But certainly Kidd is right up there.

Paradise · Post #182 » by **Paradise** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 8:22 am

So most NBA players went on Twitter to support him...Clearly everyone respects him and likes him across the league and thinks he's capable of the job. Only RealGM has to belittle his success and rep in the league.

Shane Battier went out to say alot of players can spot "fraud" coaches with so called experience but don't respect their so called logic on the game while everyone respects Kidd and his IQ on the game.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-o ... jason-kidd

dolphinatik · Post #183 » by **dolphinatik** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:33 am

how is this any different than Avery Johnson? Nets are confused in what they want in a coach.

Juggynaut · Post #184 » by **Juggynaut** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 10:44 am

Paradise wrote:So most NBA players went on Twitter to support him...Clearly everyone respects him and likes him across the league and thinks he's capable of the job. Only RealGM has to belittle his success and rep in the league.

Shane Battier went out to say alot of players can spot "fraud" coaches with so called experience but don't respect their so called logic on the game while everyone respects Kidd and his IQ on the game.

http://www.cbssports.com/nba/blog/eye-o ... jason-kidd

Lol of course players respect him, he's an all time great in the league. How is RealGM belittling him? They acknowledge he's a top 10 PG of all time, still coaching is different than playing the game. This move doesn't make sense because there's a good market for head coaches right now with an actual coaching resume. Nobody is afraid of JKidd coaching the Nets, I'll be more afraid if Brian Shaw or Lionel Hollins is there.

It doesn't make it a bad move cause he has the capabilities to be a good head coach. It's just not the best move right now when you're with a win now roster. Also Mark Jackson was awful his 1st year so I don't know y people are saying he was good right out of the gate.

TDevilsG · Post #185 » by **TDevilsG** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 11:49 am

dolphinatik wrote:how is this any different than Avery Johnson? Nets are confused in what they want in a coach.

Anybody is better than avery Johnson. Nobody respected him and his iso offense every single play. Avery was a decent guy but clearly had no idea how to manage his team and both the mavericks and Nets eventually stopped respecting him. We don't know what Kidd is going to be like as a coach but he's regarded as the franchises best player ever. I think most Nets fans understand he is a gamble but you can't help but feel good that one of the best players ever and a franchise savior will be coming back.

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KMartsCrew · Post #186 » by **KMartsCrew** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:08 pm

This organization is an embarrassment.

cdouglas · Post #187 » by **cdouglas** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:16 pm

I wonder why Kareem was never given the chance to coach a team.

erekose200 · Post #188 » by **erekose200** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:26 pm

The nets are following the Miami model; building a team around big names with no regard for fit, experience, or intangibles such as heart, etc. Kidd while a great player is totally unproven as a coach and, like the nets since they moved to Brooklyn, will probably underwhelm relative to the hype behind the name. This is the danger of the heat model.

TDevilsG · Post #189 » by **TDevilsG** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:34 pm

erekose200 wrote:The nets are following the Miami model; building a team around big names with no regard for fit, experience, or intangibles such as heart, etc. Kidd while a great player is totally unproven as a coach and, like the nets since they moved to Brooklyn, will probably underwhelm relative to the hype behind the name. This is the danger of the heat model.

Even if this were true, what is so wrong about a Heat franchise making the finals three years in a row, having one of the most impressive win streaks in nba history, and are poised to win a third championship in ten years? I think the entire nba is looking for that. I hate the heat but they are as impressive as any group in the league over the last fifteen years.

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Juggynaut · Post #190 » by **Juggynaut** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 12:55 pm

TDevilsG wrote:
erekose200 wrote:The nets are following the Miami model; building a team around big names with no regard for fit, experience, or intangibles such as heart, etc. Kidd while a great player is totally unproven as a coach and, like the nets since they moved to Brooklyn, will probably underwhelm relative to the hype behind the name. This is the danger of the heat model.

Even if this were true, what is so wrong about a Heat franchise making the finals three years in a row, having one of the most impressive win streaks in nba history, and are poised to win a third championship in ten years? I think the entire nba is looking for that. I hate the heat but they are as impressive as any group in the league over the last fifteen years.

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Yeah I have no clue where he get that comparison, the Heat build around the best player in the league, Wade who was top 5 last year, and a top 10 PF in Bosh. Nets are nothing like the Heat which are a great model for success for other organizations. This is pretty funny but they are following the Knicks model which is hilariously stupid.

dho4ever · Post #191 » by **dho4ever** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:09 pm

Jason Kidd is a pretty dumb guy, whose never played 19 years in the NBA. Hiring a reject like Karl or Hollins is obviously better because they're just rays of sunshine. Hell, even Vinnie is a better coach because of his years of experience.... Huge mistake, Brooklyn

Pharmcat · Post #192 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:12 pm

the job shouldve gone to shaw, he put in his dues as a assistant coach, kidd didnt...its a travesty kidd can just leap frog over former players who have paid their dues as working asst coaching jobs and have more rings

brownsmith89 · Post #193 » by **brownsmith89** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:30 pm

patrick ewing paid his dues too, but i wouldn't hire him as a head coach.

shaw was just a role player in the nba and looks lost out there on the sideline. kidd stays calm and gets along with players. i think he has the right demeanor to be a coach, not to mention his bbiq and championship experience.

dho4ever · Post #194 » by **dho4ever** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:30 pm

Pharmcat wrote:the job shouldve gone to shaw, he put in his dues as a assistant coach, kidd didnt...its a travesty kidd can just leap frog over former players who have paid their dues as working asst coaching jobs and have more rings

Past dues? This is the Nets, where Kidd was a big part of in bringing to relevance, and the greatest player for the franchise.

It's not like he got the head coaching job of the Lakers or the Magic over Shaw.

Rockice_24 · Post #195 » by **Rockice_24** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:37 pm

Pharmcat wrote:the job shouldve gone to shaw, he put in his dues as a assistant coach, kidd didnt...its a travesty kidd can just leap frog over former players who have paid their dues as working asst coaching jobs and have more rings

Just cause Shaw was an assistant means he should have gotten the job? Not great logic at all really. Maybe they like Kidd's pitch better and his direction on the team. I wouldn't have minded Shaw at all I think he'll make a fine coach and was actually interested to see how the Nets fit into the triangle (I thought it would work well) but Kidd has ties to the Nets and neither is proven so what makes Sahw so much better? Being an assistant doesn't really do it for me as you can say Kidd has been a player coach for the past few years of playing days. With proven guys at his side there is no reason to think Kidd can't be a fantastic coach.

If Shaw is so great how come he isn't a head coach yet? I mean I keep hearing about the LAC job but they haven't offered it to him and he's got LA ties. I mean Philly needs a coach why aren't they on him? He's the hot young guy on the market and Realgm seems to love him yet he still can't land a job. I mean if he was as great as everyone thinks teams would be jumping at the chance to get him yet he's had two interviews and no job offers yet.

Post #196 » by **dockingsched** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:38 pm

brownsmith89 wrote:patrick ewing paid his dues too, but i wouldn't hire him as a head coach.

shaw was just a role player in the nba and looks lost out there on the sideline. kidd stays calm and gets along with players. i think he has the right demeanor to be a coach, not to mention his bbiq and championship experience.

the 1st part makes no sense to bring up as a point against him, the second part is crazy.

Rockice_24 · Post #197 » by **Rockice_24** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:43 pm

dockingsched wrote:
brownsmith89 wrote:patrick ewing paid his dues too, but i wouldn't hire him as a head coach.

shaw was just a role player in the nba and looks lost out there on the sideline. kidd stays calm and gets along with players. i think he has the right demeanor to be a coach, not to mention his bbiq and championship experience.

the 1st part makes no sense to bring up as a point against him, the second part is crazy.

Actually I heard somewhere and can't back it up with a quote or facts, maybe someone else can help me out but I heard Shaw was poor at handling the media and poor at interviews. Maybe not the best public speaker? I think any hesitation or lack of confidence is not a good thing to have in a head coach.

Teams need a strong, confident, calming leader on the the sidelines and Kidd is all of those things as seen throughout his amazing career. He's got that swagger that a good coach needs and I keep hearing Shaw is lacking.

From everything you hear Shaw is a great teacher and maybe is meant to be in that role and not the head seat.

Cujo · Post #198 » by **Cujo** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 1:50 pm

Pharmcat wrote:the job shouldve gone to shaw, he put in his dues as a assistant coach, kidd didnt...its a travesty kidd can just leap frog over former players who have paid their dues as working asst coaching jobs and have more rings

It has nothing to do with "paying dues".

Right or wrong, the Nets felt that he was the best person for the job.

Nobody should EVER be put into a head coaching position because they "paid their dues".

Bottom line, the Nets felt that Kidd was more qualified so he got the job.

Pharmcat · Post #199 » by **Pharmcat** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:05 pm

Cujo wrote:
Pharmcat wrote:the job shouldve gone to shaw, he put in his dues as a assistant coach, kidd didnt...its a travesty kidd can just leap frog over former players who have paid their dues as working asst coaching jobs and have more rings

It has nothing to do with "paying dues".

Right or wrong, the Nets felt that he was the best person for the job.

Nobody should EVER be put into a head coaching position because they "paid their dues".

Bottom line, the Nets felt that Kidd was more qualified so he got the job.

more qualified based on what?
shaw has more rings
shaw has more coaching experience, both on a winner (LAL) and coaching up a up and coming team (IND)

this was a marketing move by BKN and to satisfy their star in deron

brownsmith89 · Post #200 » by **brownsmith89** » Thu Jun 13, 2013 2:09 pm

horry has even more rings than shaw and was a better contributor.

kidd actually led 2 nets teams to the finals.

shaw was just a role player as both player and assistant coach to phil jackson and vogel.

thibodeau was an assistant to doc rivers, but you could still see the intensity and communication from thibs on the sideline. i haven't seen any of that in shaw.

he just looks lost out there, i'm sorry.