Pre-Draft Thread / Workout Updates

shrink · Post #621 » by **shrink** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:35 pm

I wonder if Love would ask Scola if he'd like his shoe deal?

Post #622 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:37 pm

shrink · Post #623 » by **shrink** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 3:40 pm

If PHX wanted to dump a guy, it'd probably be Beasley, so cheap Sarver doesn't have to buy him out. SCB is in trouble with the law, and he is a tweener forward that needs to go especially if Williams is coming in. Beasley isn't a huge hit to salary - he could be removed via the stretch provision for about $3 mil/year over 3 years. However, nobody, and maybe especially the cheap Sarver, wants to pay a player $9 million for a guaranteed zero production.

Liver_Pooty · Post #624 » by **Liver_Pooty** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:16 pm

Mattya wrote:Not many of us are interested in trading Williams and 9 for the 4, with out getting something back, so....

great news for both sides then

Post #625 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 4:40 pm

[tweet]https://twitter.com/wolvesradio/status/346667919721263105[/tweet]

gaspar · Post #626 » by **gaspar** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:08 pm

[RCG] wrote:http://www.fannation.com/truth_and_rumors/view/391577-phoenix-eyeing-7-footer?eref=sihp

If they like Adams a lot, I'd be more than happy to send them #9 & #26 for #5!

From the article:

Suns GM: "[At] the end of the day, he'd probably end up somewhere in the top of the first round. We have one pick there and maybe we'll be able to get some more."

Also:

http://arizonasports.com/41/1640248/Rep ... or-Oladipo

Post #627 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:15 pm

shrink wrote:If PHX wanted to dump a guy, it'd probably be Beasley, so cheap Sarver doesn't have to buy him out. SCB is in trouble with the law, and he is a tweener forward that needs to go especially if Williams is coming in. Beasley isn't a huge hit to salary - he could be removed via the stretch provision for about $3 mil/year over 3 years. However, nobody, and maybe especially the cheap Sarver, wants to pay a player $9 million for a guaranteed zero production.

Beasley is completely unguaranteed in 14-15, so I don't think he's that much of a negative contract. Essentially an expiring deal.

Post #628 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:17 pm

Klomp wrote:
shrink wrote:If PHX wanted to dump a guy, it'd probably be Beasley, so cheap Sarver doesn't have to buy him out. SCB is in trouble with the law, and he is a tweener forward that needs to go especially if Williams is coming in. Beasley isn't a huge hit to salary - he could be removed via the stretch provision for about $3 mil/year over 3 years. However, nobody, and maybe especially the cheap Sarver, wants to pay a player $9 million for a guaranteed zero production.

Beasley is completely unguaranteed in 14-15, so I don't think he's that much of a negative contract. Essentially an expiring deal.

$3M guaranteed according to Sham.

Post #629 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:22 pm

C.lupus wrote:$3M guaranteed according to Sham.

Thanks. On my ipad, and can't do the mouse over thing, so was going off of Wyn's table

[RCG] · Post #630 » by **[RCG]** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:33 pm

I saw that they would like another pick. In which case I wonder if:

#9 + Williams + Barea + Stiemsma for #30 + Gortat + Dudley + '14 MN 1st returned makes sense.

Minnesota can target Ledo, Rice Jr., Snell, Karasev at 26 and a big like Muscala, WIthey at 30 or vice versa as developmental players at the end of the bench. Dudley is solid if unspectacular but he is very consistent. Gortat provides great insurance in case of an injury or Pek receiving a ludicrous offer in free agency. They'd form the best center-duo in the league and we wouldn't have to worry about foul trouble.

Rubio/Ridnour/Shved
Dudley/Shved/#26
Kirilenko/Budinger/#26
Love/Cunningham/#30
Pekovic/Gortat/#30

We could also ask for Marshall, who is Rubio-lite but I don't know if I'm too biased.

Howard Cosell · Post #631 » by **Howard Cosell** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:47 pm

Jimmy Smith ‏@JimmySmith504 1h
Hearing that C Alex Len, who visited with #Pelicans on Friday, is now the likely choice for #Cavs at No. 1 spot in next week's draft.

This draft could go:

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Bennett or Mclemore
5) Suns = Mclemore/Oladipo/Bennett/Adams
6) Pelicans......

......quite possibly a small chance Mclemore falls to 6.....a decent chance, maybe 50/50 Oladipo falls to 6th.

Maybe we should start talking to the Pelicans about their 6th pick?

Krapinsky · Post #632 » by **Krapinsky** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:50 pm

hmmm i could see Noel dropping all the way to 5.

[RCG] · Post #633 » by **[RCG]** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 5:51 pm

1. Cavs - Len
2. Magic - Noel
3. Wizards - Porter
4. Bobcats - Bennett
5. Suns - Oladipo
6. Pelicans - Burke
7. Kings - Carter-Williams
8. Pistons - McCollum
9. Wolves - McLemore

Post #634 » by **C.lupus** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:02 pm

Howard Cosell wrote:
Jimmy Smith ‏@JimmySmith504 1h
Hearing that C Alex Len, who visited with #Pelicans on Friday, is now the likely choice for #Cavs at No. 1 spot in next week's draft.

I smell smoke.

Howard Cosell wrote:This draft could go:

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Bennett or Mclemore
5) Suns = Mclemore/Oladipo/Bennett/Adams
6) Pelicans......

......quite possibly a small chance Mclemore falls to 6.....a decent chance, maybe 50/50 Oladipo falls to 6th.

Maybe we should start talking to the Pelicans about their 6th pick?

IF the top three went that way, I think it would be more like...

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Mclemore
5) Suns = Oladipo
6) Pelicans = who cares

Howard Cosell · Post #635 » by **Howard Cosell** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:04 pm

If Len does go #1 why wouldn't the Pelicans deal with us? They should be able to get Burke or MCW at 9, or at the very least McCollum who can play some PG. But chances are very good they will be able to acquire Burke or MCW with the 9th pick. With Gordon chewing up some big money they are not going to select Mclemore or Oladipo, whoever falls to them at SG. The Pelicans want AD to play PF so they are trying to pick a BIG with their first pick but if Len falls at #1 why not move down to #9 and still get Adams?

Not sure what we can give them to move up 3 spots. Derrick Williams would be an overpay as I don't see anything comparable that they can give back despite the higher draft pick in the 1st round.

Post #636 » by **Klomp** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:05 pm

C.lupus wrote:IF the top three went that way, I think it would be more like...

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Mclemore
5) Suns = Oladipo
6) Pelicans = who cares

Exactly. Still have to get up to AT LEAST 5 for Oladipo

Howard Cosell · Post #637 » by **Howard Cosell** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:09 pm

C.lupus wrote:
Howard Cosell wrote:
Jimmy Smith ‏@JimmySmith504 1h
Hearing that C Alex Len, who visited with #Pelicans on Friday, is now the likely choice for #Cavs at No. 1 spot in next week's draft.

I smell smoke.

Howard Cosell wrote:This draft could go:

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Bennett or Mclemore
5) Suns = Mclemore/Oladipo/Bennett/Adams
6) Pelicans......

......quite possibly a small chance Mclemore falls to 6.....a decent chance, maybe 50/50 Oladipo falls to 6th.

Maybe we should start talking to the Pelicans about their 6th pick?

IF the top three went that way, I think it would be more like...

1) Cavs = Len
2) Magic = Noel (Magic not looking to win this year)
3) Wizards = Porter
4) Bobcats = Mclemore
5) Suns = Oladipo
6) Pelicans = who cares

You may be right, but HOLYSMOKE the Bobcats need help in their frontcourt. They need a scorer desperately at PF if they are going to go with under sized Biz at center and non-scoring defensive gem in Gilchrist at SF. I just can't see the Bobcats not picking Bennett or even Zeller at the 4 spot. Walker is always going to be chucking up shots for them at the PG position, and I think they want to resign Henderson for 4/28 or something close.

Howard Cosell · Post #638 » by **Howard Cosell** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:18 pm

I guess Noel could drop to the Pelicans if the rumor of Cavs liking Len for #1 is true.

Noel and Davis in two years...................

Rim Protector City.

shrink · Post #639 » by **shrink** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:23 pm

Howard Cosell wrote: With Gordon chewing up some big money they are not going to select Mclemore or Oladipo, whoever falls to them at SG.

Or they could draft McLemore or Olidapo, and try hard to move Eric Gordon.

Howard Cosell · Post #640 » by **Howard Cosell** » Mon Jun 17, 2013 6:28 pm

shrink wrote:
Howard Cosell wrote: With Gordon chewing up some big money they are not going to select Mclemore or Oladipo, whoever falls to them at SG.

Or they could draft McLemore or Olidapo, and try hard to move Eric Gordon.

Very difficult to move Gordon at this time, Pelicans would have to sell low. I don't think Flip would be interested in Gordon. IMO.