Celtics and Clippers Deal close to Being Official

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I'm with Caveman on Jordan, he's basically a Joel Anthony/Biedrins type player because he has no BBIQ. Excellent athlete but a terrible basketball player. And I don't understand the concept that Rondo will pump his value up....? He's been playing with a vastly superior offensive PG in Chris Paul.

The pick is essentially worthless and Jordan's deal is awful. If you can't at least dump Terry then I just don't see the incentive, at all.

All the talk of Jordan improving with Rondo got me thinking. Isn't the guy that improves the most Blake Griffin? Instead of having Jordan's man hanging underneath the hoop all game, KG would be pulling him out of the paint. Griffin is an attack the hoop/face-up guy. Isn't that a huge benefit offensively for Blake? Maybe Caveman or someone else can weigh in on that, but seems like a much better fit.

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[luvher_501]

the truth is most people is over valuing the celtics assets

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I couldn't disagree more. KG as a part of a big man rotation in MEM, SA or OKC and the Clips can book loses in the WCF until 2016 (when CP3 will have an opt-out, I am sure).

2 first round picks with: Perk, or Bonner and filler, or just take Ed Davis and Darrell Arthur. Clips never sniff the Finals until their stars reach FA again.

for the right team KG is valuable, a team on the cusp of really competing for a title he is a perfect fit, but dont kid your self..as much as I love KG and i think he represents everything Celtic ....b he is 37 years old he has one at the most 2 years left. You cant run the offense through him anymore, he cant dominate like he use to but as a complimentary piece to the puzzle he is perfect. Celtics cant expect top talent for a 37 year old on the verge of retiring player. the clippers are doing the right thing , give up deandre Jordan who is a real project but he is young and shows promise at times and a pick .....but dont mortage your franchise for KG , because truth is the Celtics mortgage their team trying to do just that

[Banks2Pierce]

Funny how the talks have stopped for the night. What are they, 9 years old?

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KG makes everyone better, from Blake to CP3 and closer to home Rondo has benefitted tremendously. I don't think it can be overstated how much KG's shooting ability opens up the floor for all his teammates and when you have a guy like Rondo who needs open driving lanes, KG is instrumental in providing that.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

[luvher_501]

I'm all for letting kg retire and doc do tv. The clippers are playing hard ball and it's up to ainge right now imo.

Hopefully thats why the deal isn't done, Ainge hasn't caved yet.

Ownership for the C's might have a larger than usual say in this deal as well, considering who is involved.

The only problem is ainge already caved in when he said they didnt need to get bledsoe in return

thats the right move for the clippers hold bledsoe...

[Captain_Caveman]

I'm with Caveman on Jordan, he's basically a Joel Anthony/Biedrins type player because he has no BBIQ. Excellent athlete but a terrible basketball player. And I don't understand the concept that Rondo will pump his value up....? He's been playing with a vastly superior offensive PG in Chris Paul.

The pick is essentially worthless and Jordan's deal is awful. If you can't at least dump Terry then I just don't see the incentive, at all.

All the talk of Jordan improving with Rondo got me thinking. Isn't the guy that improves the most Blake Griffin? Instead of having Jordan's man hanging underneath the hoop all game, KG would be pulling him out of the paint. Griffin is an attack the hoop/face-up guy. Isn't that a huge benefit offensively for Blake? Maybe Caveman or someone else can weigh in on that, but seems like a much better fit.

Totally. I am not on the Griffin is overrated train. He has much to work on, but much to work with. Efficient scorer on a good amount of attempts, good rebounder, good passer, improving defense. They'd need one more good big besides Odom, but Griffin with KG as a stretch 5 and defensive presence can only help him.

As to DJ, I don't *hate* him, and could handle this deal if it facilitates other moves like Josh Smith, but he is just one of those dudes who gets overrated from being on SportsCenter so much. Seems that some people need a reality check on that. Guys can improve skills that they already possess and maybe add a jump shot, but they don't magically sprout wings and fly away.

[crosko42]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

[UConn celt]

I'm with Caveman on Jordan, he's basically a Joel Anthony/Biedrins type player because he has no BBIQ. Excellent athlete but a terrible basketball player. And I don't understand the concept that Rondo will pump his value up....? He's been playing with a vastly superior offensive PG in Chris Paul.

The pick is essentially worthless and Jordan's deal is awful. If you can't at least dump Terry then I just don't see the incentive, at all.

All the talk of Jordan improving with Rondo got me thinking. Isn't the guy that improves the most Blake Griffin? Instead of having Jordan's man hanging underneath the hoop all game, KG would be pulling him out of the paint. Griffin is an attack the hoop/face-up guy. Isn't that a huge benefit offensively for Blake? Maybe Caveman or someone else can weigh in on that, but seems like a much better fit.

Yup. Totally agree. KG's a perfect compliment to Blake. Jordan and Blake get in each other's way trying to finish dunks and the Clips knew it during the season too when they tried to get KG before the deadline. Good teams just packed the lane and often their offense was just Paul trying to create something all on his own. In addition to his ft shooting, this is why they'd sit Jordan for basically entire halves.

Similarly, I think Jordan will benefit from not playing with Blake. Ideally, he'd be perfect next to a guy like Dirk, but a skilled, below the rim guy like Sully will help too.

[crosko42]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

6-9.75 w/o shoes, 6-11 in shoes as per pre draft measurements. Everyones listed heights are in shoes.

7'6" wingspan which is arguably more important.

9'5.5" reach which is also off the charts.

[165bows]

+1

I couldn't disagree more. KG as a part of a big man rotation in MEM, SA or OKC and the Clips can book loses in the WCF until 2016 (when CP3 will have an opt-out, I am sure).

2 first round picks with: Perk, or Bonner and filler, or just take Ed Davis and Darrell Arthur. Clips never sniff the Finals until their stars reach FA again.

for the right team KG is valuable, a team on the cusp of really competing for a title he is a perfect fit, but dont kid your self..as much as I love KG and i think he represents everything Celtic ....b he is 37 years old he has one at the most 2 years left. You cant run the offense through him anymore, he cant dominate like he use to but as a complimentary piece to the puzzle he is perfect. Celtics cant expect top talent for a 37 year old on the verge of retiring player. the clippers are doing the right thing , give up deandre Jordan who is a real project but he is young and shows promise at times and a pick .....but dont mortage your franchise for KG , because truth is the Celtics mortgage their team trying to do just that

Please. The right teams? You mean, like all the ones I mentioned that are the Clippers competition in the playoffs? And Jordan is not a project. He's 25 this season, he's not making a leap. Two late first round picks is fair value, KG can do what Gerald Wallace did in Portland still. You either get the two picks, or Bledsoe and a pick, or walk.

[peachbucket]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

...and a monstrous 9 5.5" standing reach make him one of the longest players in the league. However I agree that he has very limited upside at this point and I'm not sure that at north of 10 million a year he is even an asset that can be traded for anything worthwhile...which begs the question what are the celtics really getting from this deal?

[WeLikeOurGuys]

I could be wrong about his height? My bad.

DJ has also been working with Hakeem on his post game which has improved every season.

[Pogue Mahone]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

All upper body. He doesn't have nice legs (no homo.)

He gets pushed off the spot and knocked off balance way too easily.

[sully00]

Jordan is a small center too he is very athletic which helps but he will undersized against the bigger centers in the nba.

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

DeAndre Jordan is huge. He may only be 6'10" in bare feet but he has a 7'6" wingspan and 9'5.5" standing reach (11th largerst in DX data base). So feel free to find one of those bigger centers. Dwight Howard is 6'9" with a 7'4.5" and 9'3.5" I guess you would view him more as a undersized PF.

[WeLikeOurGuys]

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

DeAndre Jordan is huge. He may only be 6'10" in bare feet but he has a 7'6" wingspan and 9'5.5" standing reach (11th largerst in DX data base). So feel free to find one of those bigger centers. Dwight Howard is 6'9" with a 7'4.5" and 9'3.5" I guess you would view him more as a undersized PF.

Yea I've watched Marc gasol completely own Jordan last 2 playoff series. Who is one of the bigger centers in the nba...

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I WANT BLEDSOE! Dont cave yet Danny!

[chrisab123]

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hes 6-11 250.

Not undersized imo.

He is not 6-11 lol.

DeAndre Jordan is huge. He may only be 6'10" in bare feet but he has a 7'6" wingspan and 9'5.5" standing reach (11th largerst in DX data base). So feel free to find one of those bigger centers. Dwight Howard is 6'9" with a 7'4.5" and 9'3.5" I guess you would view him more as a undersized PF.

Size and age aren't the only metrics here. You need to be a good player too. Jordan cannot shoot...period! Unless its a dunk of course