NBA Games Discussion Thread - Part 2

FAH1223 · Post #221 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:40 pm

So apparently Nike jumped the gun and are releasing 2 x champion shoes for... LeBron

Nike jumps the gun on LeBron 2X champ*kicks - Beer Mug

pancakes3 · Post #222 » by **pancakes3** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:41 pm

I think Bosh will eventually get it but it'll take a while. His biggest resume boost imo is his Olympic contribution. Same goes for Vince. If those two didn't have the Olympic background, it'd be tough to say they have a MUCH better case over guys like say... Shareef Abdur Rheem.

nuposse04 · Post #223 » by **nuposse04** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:46 pm

Not even sure if I should watch tonight. Maybe Joey Trolls stern and actually calls a game fairly....

I'm saying Duncan makes to dagger tonight. He's due for a great game. 30/20. BBQ CHICKEN ALL DAY!

verbal8 · Post #224 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 4:46 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Quick question, is Chris Bosh a hall of fame player? He's an 8 time all-star, 1 time All-NBA, career averages of 20/9. He'll likely have 3-4 more all-star appearances. A key piece on at least 1 Championship team, been to the finals 3 times.

B-R thinks so:
http://www.basketball-reference.com/lea ... html?redir

He is rated at 88.5 with 0.50 being the hall-of-fame cut-off, however he is a step below the "shoe-in" guys. His numbers might drop slightly depending on what the end of his career looks like.

Upper Decker · Post #225 » by **Upper Decker** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:24 pm

Crazy to think how low Manu is on that list. He's below Agent Zero and slightly above El Capitwan, the matador, Antwan Jamison. From basically Jason Kidd down I'd take Manu in the HoF over everyone else with the possible exception of Durant, but he needs to win one.

verbal8 · Post #226 » by **verbal8** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:39 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Crazy to think how low Manu is on that list. He's below Agent Zero and slightly above El Capitwan, the matador, Antwan Jamison. From basically Jason Kidd down I'd take Manu in the HoF over everyone else with the possible exception of Durant, but he needs to win one.

Interestingly he is rated near Chris Mullin. Mullin was a 5 time all star. Manu only has 2 all star games, but was an important component in 2 and possibly 3 championship teams. He may have a chance if he is seen as the greatest 6th man ever. He also started his NBA career at 25, so he won't have much in terms of cumulative stats to make his case. I think he may be similar to Chauncy Billups(although his peak is longer), a very good player but not quite Hall of Famer.

FAH1223 · Post #227 » by **FAH1223** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 5:47 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Crazy to think how low Manu is on that list. He's below Agent Zero and slightly above El Capitwan, the matador, Antwan Jamison. From basically Jason Kidd down I'd take Manu in the HoF over everyone else with the possible exception of Durant, but he needs to win one.

Manu has his international career to add to his NBA one.

dobrojim · Post #228 » by **dobrojim** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 6:31 pm

I think it would be hard for anyone to displace Havlicek as the GoaT 6th man.

Chocolate City Jordanaire · Post #229 » by **Chocolate City Jordanaire** » Tue Jun 18, 2013 7:24 pm

Upper Decker wrote:Quick question, is Chris Bosh a hall of fame player? He's an 8 time all-star, 1 time All-NBA, career averages of 20/9. He'll likely have 3-4 more all-star appearances. A key piece on at least 1 Championship team, been to the finals 3 times.

If they win this series he is.

If they lose and he gets traded to a losing team I don't know. Bosh could put up numbers to get In but he also can hurt his reputation by losing.

Post #230 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:35 am

13' Duncan is looking like 03' Duncan right about now.

And I freaking hate Shane Battier. He's a smart guy but outsmarts the refs ALL the damn time with those charges taken. He doesn't give the offensive player time to come down but the refs call it a charge every single time.

closg00 · Post #231 » by **closg00** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 1:50 am

Better get Manu out for a spell, Wade is just abusing him.

GhostsOfGil · Post #232 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:14 am

If The Spurs win this, Timmy definitely joins the Mount Rushmore of the NBA greats IMO. On the other side, Lebron looks like a scared turtle going back into his shell.

queridiculo · Post #233 » by **queridiculo** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:35 am

The Heat play like their fans act. A bunch of front running bullies, who act tough when things are going well and who shrivel up when faced with adversity.

I'm loving this series, it's a culture clash of epic proportions and I hope the good guys continue to come out on top.

Post #234 » by **miller31time** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:42 am

I can't believe how bad Manu is playing right now. He's been the Heat's MVP thus far.

queridiculo · Post #235 » by **queridiculo** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:48 am

The turnovers Manu has had have been so bad it seems like he's trying to throw the game. Just inexplicable sloppy passing.

sfam · Post #236 » by **sfam** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:49 am

Wow, Lebron looks like he can barely elevate right now. The dude must be going on fumes at this point. That last play he barely got up enough to try and miss a layup.

dangermouse · Post #237 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 2:57 am

Timmy having a vintage night. 30 points and the 3rd aint even over yet.

Leonard just continues to impress. We passed on this guy why? Because we were concerned about his jumper, lack of offensive polish? Yet we took Jan fing Vesely? Hah. Grunfeld should be fired just for that, let alone anything else he has bungled over the years.

dangermouse · Post #238 » by **dangermouse** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:03 am

I see the Heat disease has now affected Ray Allen. I dont remember him being this much of a whiner in Boston. I remember him being 100% professional in Seattle.

LeBron and Wade are more interested in crying to the refs than getting back on D. Its going to cost them the game.

Post #239 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:09 am

God I hope San Antonio wins. Every once in a while, we need Good to triumph over Evil so faith in the universe is restored.

Post #240 » by **nate33** » Wed Jun 19, 2013 3:12 am

dangermouse wrote:I see the Heat disease has now affected Ray Allen. I dont remember him being this much of a whiner in Boston. I remember him being 100% professional in Seattle.

LeBron and Wade are more interested in crying to the refs than getting back on D. Its going to cost them the game.

The only players on that team that I still like are Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. I used to like Ray Allen and Shane Battier but their constant whining has turned me against them.