Who would you want to win, Spurs or Heat?

[spree8]

Dude, I don't have a bias or selective memory...I know what I watch all the time. I know what legends like Mj, Magic, Barkely, Shaq, etc say. I watch analysts talk about this all the time. This is not something that happened so long ago where my memory is foggy...it's not rocket science man...Lebron chokes in the 4th 99% of the time...it's known. Not making it up. I haven't created my own reality if millions share the same feelings with me. It's a fact.

Bottom line...Lebron is like Kwame Brown in the 4th. He doesn't want the shot. Kobe does...regardless of him missing or not. This is what all your #'s and everything come down to. The willingness and the desire to take it. Lebron is scared, Kobe may be scared, but Kobe does it where Lebron prefers not to.

So you didn't read the Barnwell piece, nor are you going to acknowledge any of Lebron's fourth quarter and postseason heroics because you want to remain ignorant in your selective memory and bias...that's fine, it's not my job to make you change your mind...just please tell me you at least see the irony in your statement "Dude, I don't have a bias or selective memory...I know what I watch all the time". We think what we want to and, as you have shown us, cling to the availability heuristic when it comes to ranking players since, we as fans, are/can be emotional people (Wikipedia on availability heuristic for you - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Availability_heuristic).

And, just for you, it took a while playing around basketball reference but I finally found how to look at Fourth Quarter statistics. Here is the link:

http://www.basketball-reference.com/pla ... finder.cgi

You can play around with it however you like. Since you are so obsessed with Fourth Quarter shooting and taking the big shot, I set the limits for Regular Season and Post Season, Fourth Quarter and Overtime, 5 minutes or less with the scoring margin between 0-6, a minimum of 20 field goal attempts, and I sorted it by Effective Field Goal Percentage (eFG%, a statistic that adjusts percentages based on the fact that a three point shot is worth one point more than a two-point shot). Unsurprisingly, here are the results:

2012-2013: Lebron James - .487
2012-2013: Kobe Bryant - .394
Lebron better by .093

2011-2012: Lebron James - .436
2011-2012: Kobe Bryant - .337
Lebron better by .099

2010-2011: Lebron James - .429
2010-2011: Kobe Bryant - .455
Kobe better by .026

2009-2010: Lebron James - .495
2009-2010: Kobe Bryant - .414
Lebron better by .081

2008-2009: Lebron James - .607
2008-2009: Kobe Bryant - .448
Lebron better by .159!!!!!

2007-2008: Lebron James - .463
2007-2008: Kobe Bryant - .488
Kobe better by .025

2006-2007: Lebron James - .438
2006-2007: Kobe Bryant - .440
Kobe better by .002

2005-2006: Lebron James - .618
2005-2006: Kobe Bryant - .448
Lebron better by .170!!!!!!!

2004-2005: Lebron James - .452
2004-2005: Kobe Bryant - .328
Lebron James better by .124

In six of the past nine years, Lebron has had a better eFG% than Kobe with five minutes or less in the fourth quarter in the regular season or the playoffs, mostly be significant margins. In 2006-2007, Kobe's eFG% was only .002 better than Lebron, a completely insignificant amount, and his highest margin of victory is .026. Three times Lebron's eFG% was over .100 better than Kobe, with another year he was at .099 and .093 better than Kobe.

So there you go, Spree. If Lebron is Kwame in the Fourth Quarter, then I guess Kobe is Adam Morrison?

you simply are not understanding anything I'm saying dude. clearly. how the hell is it ignorant or ironic when I say it is not selective memory when I'm stating I remember everything 100%. Selective memory is what you choose to remember which is bs....If by selective memory you mean vivid...then yeah sure.

Cut the crap...this stat garbage is annoying already. You're continuing to show the lack of understanding when I say clutch. Clutch does not mean entire 4th quarter which I made clear in my last post. I'm talking game on the line, final few minutes...not all 12 minutes in the 4th. The Kwame Brown thing is way over your head too I see....talk about selective. Kwame told Kobe not to pass because he was scared to shoot....I poked fun at Lebron because essentially he feels the same way with the game on the line. I'm not making this stuff up lol...you act as though you've never heard of this.

I'm not reading the thing you posted because I don't care to waste my time....why don't you go listen to the HOF'ers and legends talk about it...go listen to MJ and Magic tell you Kobe is better than Lebron. You won't because you wanna remain bias and selective right? Go ahead and get the last word man...I'm out.

[Reservoirdawgs]

Oh and btw if you watched PTI today you could see them break down the bulk of Lebron's 4th quarter performance vs his last few possessions of the 4th. MW said that Magic Johnson made a comment during a fumble by Lebron saying "that was the worst play he's ever seen under these circumstances in NBA history". He had 2 turnovers in the final seconds (where he attempted to pass) which lead to Heat fans were cursing his name in the arena. They also said that Bosh and Allen saved Lebron from another summer of bashing and criticizing his clutch ability and guts...and I have to agree.

*Bangs head on table*

EDIT: Goodness my Edit button sucks...I'm done here...no need to continue dealing with this nonsense anymore .

[Reservoirdawgs]

you simply are not understanding anything I'm saying dude. clearly. how the hell is it ignorant or ironic when I say it is not selective memory when I'm stating I remember everything 100%. Selective memory is what you choose to remember which is bs....If by selective memory you mean vivid...then yeah sure.

[Wavy Q]

I didn't have to take **** out of what you said since thats literally word for word what you said

[spree8]

I didn't have to take **** out of what you said since thats literally word for word what you said

riiiiiight.

[spree8]

you simply are not understanding anything I'm saying dude. clearly. how the hell is it ignorant or ironic when I say it is not selective memory when I'm stating I remember everything 100%. Selective memory is what you choose to remember which is bs....If by selective memory you mean vivid...then yeah sure.

Said it was my last but I lied I guess...seems you and the other kid here like to take things waaaay out of context. Forgot I need to spell out everything for people on message boards because they act like children and do stupid stuff like this...but by "I remember everything 100%" I meant.. I remember all of Lebron's playoff blunders 100%..he's only been making them the past 5 years or so...it's not hard to remember or be something to be selective about. It happened, people remember it, talk about it, there's constant reminders in the media, there's no bias...it's just basketball. Thank you..goodbye.

[Minime83]

Spurs must wing this! Other wise all my friends are going to bag me out as they all go for Miami and/or East and I'm the only one who goes for the west/Lakers.

Let's go Spurs! I hope I come home from work 2morrow and see "Spurs win championship" as the headline.

P.S I'm sick n tired of all this Lebron/Kobe comparison crap <> They both play different positions - you might as well compare Shaq to Kobe?

[LAKESHOW]

unfortunately, the spurs quite possibly...might have missed their chance

[Kilroy]

This could very easily be a Miami blow-out game if the Spurs don't come in on fire and Pop doesn't coach his heart out.

But I still think the Spurs have it in them. They're such a well balanced and great executing team. You can never count that combination out.

[Jakay]

I expect the Spurs to come back and steal game 8 and 9, ultimately leading to pivotal game 11.

[Optms]

And there goes Duncan perfect Finals record.

[LAKESHOW]

Good. I didn't want any player from this ERA or generation of stars, to touch KOBEs 5. Bron has 2. Wade has 3. Shaq has 4. And duncan has 4. KOBE stands atop and alone with 5 Championships!

[hermes]

i blame this on the 18 people who picked the heat in the poll

this is your faults!

[Patman]

Good. I didn't want any player from this ERA or generation of stars, to touch KOBEs 5. Bron has 2. Wade has 3. Shaq has 4. And duncan has 4. KOBE stands atop and alone with 5 Championships!

You'll regret this if LeBron gets to 6. He has plenty of time.

[Soul Chef Fresh]

****.

I should've rooted for the heat.

They would've lost then.

[Wavy Q]

DAE [Le]Bron is not clutch?

[ennui]

DAE [Le]Bron is not clutch?

Boom. Headshot.

[heatchamp45]

Is this a trick question? I want the Heat to win out of those 2. As Lakers fans, we've had a huge rivalry with the Spurs. They've **** us a couple times. The Heat have done nothing to us besides people being jealous that Lebron is better than Kobe and will win many rings. Hell, if TD wins then he ties Kobe with 5.

No to Spurs winning. Go Heat.

Finnally somebody with some common sense. How can a laker fan root for the purs who are one of their most hated rivals.

[heatchamp45]

As a Laker fan from 2003 the Spurs are probably the team I consider my team's biggest rivals over the past decade. Historically yes the Cs are bigger rivals but 7 times in 15 years is not normal.



My answer used to be Heat but now it's Spurs. Go break up the big 3 and deliver the King to LA

Break up the big 3? Why so you can have an easier shot of winning the finals?

Come on now......dont hate.

Accept the challange and do not opt out the easy way.

[Wavy Q]

I'm waiting for sprees biggest hit post next.