2013 Draft Poll

stevemcqueen1 · Post #21 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Fri May 31, 2013 4:15 am

I'd take Noel at 3 if he was there. That'd mean Porter is gone anyway I'd assume.

I'm thinking this for my preference:

1 - Noel
2 - Porter
3 - Zeller

verbal8 · Post #22 » by **verbal8** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:11 pm

stevemcqueen1 wrote:I'd take Noel at 3 if he was there. That'd mean Porter is gone anyway I'd assume.

I'm thinking this for my preference:

1 - Noel
2 - Porter
3 - Zeller

I agree on the first 2.

3, probably would be a trade down scenario(I would be happy to end up with Zeller as that pick). I think McLemore, Burke and Oladipo are more valuable to other teams that they are to the Wizards.

Ideally would be to pick up a 2014 pick, but a late 1st this year would be nice too.

Brenice · Post #23 » by **Brenice** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:20 pm

We have not 1 young 7ft post player. Nene and Okafor are band-aids in the post. We got a young point, 2guard, and Webster is still young too at the SF position.

Now, everybody in this draft is a gamble, so gamble BIG. I'm taking the local kid who is NOT a Hoya.

closg00 · Post #24 » by **closg00** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:32 pm

Brenice wrote:We have not 1 young 7ft post player. Nene and Okafor are band-aids in the post. We got a young point, 2guard, and Webster is still young too at the SF position.

Now, everybody in this draft is a gamble, so gamble BIG. I'm taking the local kid who is NOT a Hoya.

Agree on the need for a young 7 footer and am hoping we somehow get Dallas's 13th pick to get one.
Okafor is expiring and Nene will probably be a 30 min per night player when healthy.

tontoz · Post #25 » by **tontoz** » Fri May 31, 2013 12:48 pm

Porter is logical pick. I think Bennett and Zeller could be options as well. Of course i am assuming Noel is off the board, which he probably will be.

I don't see the case for anyone else. Len's weak motor and foot problems rule him out to me.

Knighthonor · Post #26 » by **Knighthonor** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 8:12 am

penbeast0 wrote:
montestewart wrote:Didn't Vesely win a plurality of "don't want/don't draft" a few years ago?

Yeah, that's what I assumed this thread was for . . . so when Ernie drafts Alex Len we can all point to it 3 years from now and say . . . damn, the whole Wiz Board wanted anyone else, preferably Porter who is now an All-Star for . . . somebody else.

At the risk of getting slapped down for creating yet a 3rd thread on this, this one isn't asking the question in the OP that it asks in the title so I'll throw up a thread that does.

cant change my vote :/

Post #27 » by **montestewart** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 4:50 pm

tontoz wrote:Porter is logical pick. I think Bennett and Zeller could be options as well. Of course i am assuming Noel is off the board, which he probably will be.

I don't see the case for anyone else. Len's weak motor and foot problems rule him out to me.

That's about where I am. I voted for trade, but that would be in an ideal world where the GM making the trade instills confidence that he would get top value.

BirdmanPresents · Post #28 » by **BirdmanPresents** » Sat Jun 1, 2013 7:42 pm

closg00 wrote:
Brenice wrote:We have not 1 young 7ft post player. Nene and Okafor are band-aids in the post. We got a young point, 2guard, and Webster is still young too at the SF position.

Now, everybody in this draft is a gamble, so gamble BIG. I'm taking the local kid who is NOT a Hoya.

Agree on the need for a young 7 footer and am hoping we somehow get Dallas's 13th pick to get one.
Okafor is expiring and Nene will probably be a 30 min per night player when healthy.

Lots of good C prospects in this draft. I'd even go for Len at #3 or try to do a swap to get him. OKC is almost definitely picking a C at 12 so picking at 13 there will be a high chance the Thunder will take a big off the board for 13. The bigs I like at that range are Rudy Gobert and Steven Adams. If the Wizards can get away with one of those two and Porter, that could be amazing for Washing. Could possibly have solid young players at PG,SG,SF and C if they develop as projected.

That being said I'm not a huge fan of Olynk, Zeller or Plumlee for various reasons.

If I'm Washington my realistic top 3 goes:

1. Porter
2. Len
3. Bennett

And I would push hard to get another pick possibly Dallas to snag another C.

closg00 · Post #29 » by **closg00** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 7:59 pm

*Bump* If we can't get Dallas's 13th pick, I'm leaning towards taking Zeller or Len at 3 and packaging our two 2nd round picks to try and move-up higher in the 2nd. With Beal and Wall, we need to start building a front court, wings are easier to obtain.

verbal8 · Post #30 » by **verbal8** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:23 pm

closg00 wrote:*Bump* If we can't get Dallas's 13th pick, I'm leaning towards taking Zeller or Len at 6 and packaging our two 2nd round picks to try and move-up higher in the 2nd. With Beal and Wall, we need to start building a front court, wings are easier to obtain.

How did we get the 6th pick? Does EG fall asleep on the draft clock and slip 3 slots?

closg00 · Post #31 » by **closg00** » Wed Jun 12, 2013 8:40 pm

verbal8 wrote:
closg00 wrote:*Bump* If we can't get Dallas's 13th pick, I'm leaning towards taking Zeller or Len at 3 and packaging our two 2nd round picks to try and move-up higher in the 2nd. With Beal and Wall, we need to start building a front court, wings are easier to obtain.

How did we get the 6th pick? Does EG fall asleep on the draft clock and slip 3 slots?

Fixed, I was thinking about our failed 6th pick when I wrote that

closg00 · Post #32 » by **closg00** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 10:09 am

*Bump* Stil our only official draft poll.

Knighthonor · Post #33 » by **Knighthonor** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 11:26 am

AFM wrote:Well, I went w/ Bennett.

I would as well if I could change options. thread originally was about bust.

GhostsOfGil · Post #34 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 1:44 pm

Ya my bad i fudge that title. IDK how to allow revotes. regardless looks like Porter is running away with it. I should have included Noel.

closg00 · Post #35 » by **closg00** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:55 pm

This was the only official poll of the board, Olidipo has two votes, other (KO?) only has 1 vote.

mhd · Post #36 » by **mhd** » Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:29 pm

I was listenting to Chad Ford on Bill Simmons' podcast and he was saying after talking to all execs in the top 6, the main worry on taking Noel was the fact that he wouldn't play until Feb at the earliest. Apparently, these GMs are too risk averse to wait 1 year to reap the rewards.

Post #37 » by **montestewart** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:16 am

closg00 wrote:This was the only official poll of the board, Olidipo has two votes, other (KO?) only has 1 vote.

Various posts prior to the draft tell me that a lot of people would have picked Noel, but when this poll first went up, many/most assumed he'd already be gone. I voted trade early, but by draft day I was thinking Noel or Porter if Noel was gone, or just pick Porter and skip the risk.

stevemcqueen1 · Post #38 » by **stevemcqueen1** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:52 am

montestewart wrote:
closg00 wrote:This was the only official poll of the board, Olidipo has two votes, other (KO?) only has 1 vote.

Various posts prior to the draft tell me that a lot of people would have picked Noel, but when this poll first went up, many/most assumed he'd already be gone. I voted trade early, but by draft day I was thinking Noel or Porter if Noel was gone, or just pick Porter and skip the risk.

Yeah I thought I would take Noel before the draft. But when our pick was up and Noel was on the board I don't know if I could have pulled the trigger on him myself. I was relieved right after we took Porter. You can have BPA make abstract sense to you and talk a big game about going BPA from where we sit. But it's a different animal making decisions like that in real time. Noel was scary. I couldn't get that picture of him benching with that awful looking knee and his ridiculously slender thighs and ankles out of my mind. There is just this horrible feeling that he's barely ever going to play in the NBA with him. Greg Oden flashbacks.

I believe, in hindsight, Porter was the right pick and I'm glad we chose him. I voted for him in the poll because I thought Noel would be gone. But I'm glad we had him #1 on our board and took him over Noel. I've got no regrets about that draft. I'm also glad Bennett and Oladipo went 1 and 2 so we don't ever have to wonder what might have been with them.

Dat2U · Post #39 » by **Dat2U** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 1:13 pm

I think it's really hard for any of us to truly say what we would have done in the war room. For me it would have depended on the medical reports and what the doctors tell me. In this case we don't know what the Wiz docs or even docs from around the league were really saying about Noel's recovery and outlook. If Noel's outlook was good and docs felt confident that he'd return at 100%, then he's my choice because IMO he was better prospect than Porter. But I really just don't know so it's hard for me to criticize the front office for passing on him.

GhostsOfGil · Post #40 » by **GhostsOfGil** » Thu Jul 11, 2013 3:32 pm

Dat2U wrote:I think it's really hard for any of us to truly say what we would have done in the war room. For me it would have depended on the medical reports and what the doctors tell me. In this case we don't know what the Wiz docs or even docs from around the league were really saying about Noel's recovery and outlook. If Noel's outlook was good and docs felt confident that he'd return at 100%, then he's my choice because IMO he was better prospect than Porter. But I really just don't know so it's hard for me to criticize the front office for passing on him.

Based off Dr Andrew's public statements and Chad Ford's inside scoop, the story is Noel's knee was fine. Dr Andrew's said that he emailed Noel's health report and said "There was no feedback from any team doctors" (outside Clev, who also reported his knee was fine). Teams passed on him simply because there were concerns about his ability to contribute this year. (according to Ford)

I posted this on the draft thread but Ford also said Washington wanted to make the playoffs this year and their draft pick was heavily influenced by this.

These comments came from the Bill Simmons podcast that was release this past Tuesday.

Which player do you think the Wizards should draft?