Draft/CapSpace/FA Plan

blackham9258 · Post #1 » by **blackham9258** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 4:49 am

The front office has give off all sorts of signals that we are going to go young next year and that we are going to have a little pain. Pain that I think we are all okay with because at the end of a rough year we will have been able to see how good our core players are, and we just may be bad enough to get a high draft pick that could be transcendent for the future of our franchise.

With that in mind the complete rebuild and asset build up starts in one week:

Goals for next weeks draft:

See if #14 & #21 can get #7... I believe #7 will render one of the top 6 players as I figure someone will take a PG (Burke or MCW)... My guess is Olidipo, Mclemore or Len slip... we take one of them.

Another option is to take on John Salmons final year and #14 to move up.

With #7 we take BPA which could be someone who slips or a big like Zeller, Adams or McCollum or Burke.

Then we take on Marion and get Dallas' #13 and take BPA.

Draft Yields Multiple Possible Scenarios:
#7 Olidipo, Mclemore, Zeller, Burke, Adams, McCollum
#13 McCollum, Olynyk, Adams, Shroeder, Nogeira, Bullock, Bazz, Pope, Dieng, Plumlee

Since I think the run on players in the draft will be on the bigs I think we get: Zeller/Schroeder but am literally fine with whatever the front office decides based on who is there at 7 & 13.

Marion and Possibly Salmons
If we take on Salmons and retain #21 we could easily flip that for a future pick in next years draft. Say OKC for #32 and Dallas pick.

With #32 we take Eric Green, #46 we take a Euro Stash Pick

After the draft we have $12M-$19 minimum left that we have to spend. We can sign a back up PG like Maynor so that our newly drafted PG and Burks get the time they need to develop... say 2years/$6M. Or we could just resign a guy like Watson who I think is a great example and mentor to our players and a future coach.

That leaves us $9-$16M to take on other salaries to garner more picks, but the key is we retain our cap space for the following year. What I also like is we will have created value with our now core 6 players and can flip them to move up for the franchise changer in next years draft or flip them for a star.

Last thing to do is sign and trade both Millsap and Jefferson which will garner us 2 TPE's say one for $12M and one for $7M that will allow us to garner more picks if we want to save another team from the tax and add even more picks.

I personally would resign Carroll but I wouldn't do Foye. I like Foye but if we bring on Marion that is enough of a wing rotation: Hayward, Burks getting the most minutes with Marion, Williams and Carroll getting the rest... Foye is superfluous. Sign a 5th big for the league minimum like a Ronny Turiaf.

With 2 higher draft picks we have great young talent on top of great young talent. We have Marion who provides solid SF/PF play for one year and hopefully with Wiggins or Parker in the fold we move forward after next season with:

Schroeder/Eric Green
Burks/Hayward
Parker/Hayward
Favors/Zeller
Kanter/Favors

Assets, Assets, Assets

QuantumMacgyver · Post #2 » by **QuantumMacgyver** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:00 pm

I don't mean to be negative here, but I don't see the Jazz landing Wiggins or Parker. The highest I see the Jazz is #5. There are just too many teams that are better at losing than us.

kebutah · Post #3 » by **kebutah** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:05 pm

We can't take on salaries until after the CAP reset in July. We can have selections made for us and trade later.

Post #4 » by **DelaneyRudd** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 5:07 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:I don't mean to be negative here, but I don't see the Jazz landing Wiggins or Parker. The highest I see the Jazz is #5. There are just too many teams that are better at losing than us.

So, how does drafting 5 disqualify a team from getting Parker? He's no lock like Wiggins.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #5 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:26 pm

QuantumMacgyver wrote:I don't mean to be negative here, but I don't see the Jazz landing Wiggins or Parker. The highest I see the Jazz is #5. There are just too many teams that are better at losing than us.

Cavs moved from #3 to #1 and the Wizards from #8 to #3 in lottery this year.

Also, Parker and Harrison (either would be great for Jazz) are listed right around 5th pick in early, early, DX 2014 Mock Draft.

Those of us fans (perhaps a minority) who are willing to wait out a couple of years of rebuilding are all for this approach of playing a young team and seeing how they do and grow, with the upside of a bad year is that next year's draft pick could result in a franchise changing player or at least accelerate the rebuilding. For those who want a competitive team year in and year out (even if they are barely in playoffs), the new scoreboard and renovations couldn't have come at a better time.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #6 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:37 pm

With respect to OP, I don't think that Marion is in play as he has a PO, which doesn't have to be exercised until after the draft and as such I don't think could be part of any draft deal (he is not going to opt in to be sent to a rebuilding Utah team).

I believe that only two teams have a large enough TPE to give for Vince Carter (Chicago who can't as they are into tax and Magic) which would probably be the most appealing to Dallas. Taking on Vince Carter's contract and giving a couple of 2nd round picks is otherwise about as good as anyone could do, and Jazz are in position to do it.

However, if taking on Salmons contract (about $7.5M next season and a $1M buyout for following season) and giving up #14 can get us the #7 pick and Burke or McCollum (I doubt Oladipo or Len are there) I would do it as the Jazz have to spend a certain amount of money this next season regardless and there is a greater chance that one of these players will end up being a starter or impact player than anyone at #14.

SoCalJazzFan · Post #7 » by **SoCalJazzFan** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:46 pm

Please help me out here, how could the Jazz get a TPE for a S&T for Millsap or Jefferson? Are there limitations? I was under the assumption that the Jazz would have to take back salary.

Post #8 » by **Inigo Montoya** » Thu Jun 20, 2013 8:54 pm

SoCalJazzFan wrote:Please help me out here, how could the Jazz get a TPE for a S&T for Millsap or Jefferson? Are there limitations? I was under the assumption that the Jazz would have to take back salary.

not if the jazz is trading millsap\big al to a team under the cap that can absorb their contract. in that situation, the jazz can get a TPE back.

blackham9258 · Post #9 » by **blackham9258** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:25 am

The basic point of this is we have to spend $28M next year just to make the minimum.... lets make the arrangements now to get #13 in this draft and more picks for years to come so that we can have a stack of TPE's, 1st Round Picks and young talented assets to move up in next years draft and get that franchise changing pick.

Say Burks blows up this year, and we have Dallas' 2014 pick because we traded down with OKC to get it in this draft, we have our #6 pick lets say... we could totally move up into the top 3 next year with a trade of Burks, #6 and #20 from Dallas.

The more assets the better off we are.

My point is that next week starts the accumulation of those pieces.

blackham9258 · Post #10 » by **blackham9258** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:27 am

Heck, if we could get Dennis Schroder at #21 this year and thats all we wanted with our picks and we could somehow convince Charlotte to give us the Detroit pick they have that is top 8 protected next year I would do that if Charlotte wants Bazz at #14.

We say give us Detroits pick!

king everything · Post #11 » by **king everything** » Fri Jun 21, 2013 2:45 am

blackham9258 wrote:Heck, if we could get Dennis Schroder at #21 this year and thats all we wanted with our picks and we could somehow convince Charlotte to give us the Detroit pick they have that is top 8 protected next year I would do that if Charlotte wants Bazz at #14.

We say give us Detroits pick and the Portland one...

I don't think anyone wants any players bad enough from THIS draft to give up 2 future firsts, especially a top 8 protected from next year. We aren't the only ppl that know how strong a draft it's going to be in 2014.