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Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop

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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#141 » by Kerb Hohl » Sat Jun 22, 2013 6:06 am

And for the record I was all over the Moss bandwagon when the rumors were out. I just wonder if we are still in the same situation today if Favre was happier with Thompson. Turns out him getting pissed and pretending to retire might have been the best thing for us if the crystal ball tells us we wouldn't have won in 2007 anyways.
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Post#142 » by El Duderino » Sat Jun 22, 2013 8:21 am

Kerb Hohl wrote:And for the record I was all over the Moss bandwagon when the rumors were out. I just wonder if we are still in the same situation today if Favre was happier with Thompson. Turns out him getting pissed and pretending to retire might have been the best thing for us if the crystal ball tells us we wouldn't have won in 2007 anyways.


We won't ever know how exactly things would have turned out, but your theory above certainly is plausible to me in that Ted made a mistake at the time in by not getting the trade done for Moss, but later on it helped push Favre out sooner to where Rodgers didn't get so frustrated that he tried forcing his way out the door instead of Brett.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#143 » by humanrefutation » Sat Jun 22, 2013 4:02 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:And for the record I was all over the Moss bandwagon when the rumors were out. I just wonder if we are still in the same situation today if Favre was happier with Thompson. Turns out him getting pissed and pretending to retire might have been the best thing for us if the crystal ball tells us we wouldn't have won in 2007 anyways.


That might be plausible, but I also think it's very plausible that we win the Super Bowl in 2007 and/or 2008 and Favre retires. And who knows? Maybe we give Rodgers an extension anyway that keeps him on ice. We clearly had enough confidence in him in order put up with the Favre fiasco.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#144 » by ReasonablySober » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:02 pm

One year deal with the Vikes, apparently.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#145 » by PkrsBcksGphsMqt » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:21 pm

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Post#146 » by Kerb Hohl » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:24 pm

Early reports of 1 year/1.5 million.
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Post#147 » by Newz » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:35 pm

Kerb Hohl wrote:Early reports of 1 year/1.5 million.


Seems like a decent gamble to take if you are MN.
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Post#148 » by El Duderino » Mon Jun 24, 2013 8:24 pm

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Kerb Hohl wrote:Early reports of 1 year/1.5 million.


Seems like a decent gamble to take if you are MN.


I don't see any gamble involved at all given 1.5 million is pocket change in the NFL. That's not much more than the veteran minimum.

It's going to be interesting to follow just how well he plays there, along with how Hawk and Jones play for us, assuming they end up being the starting ILB duo.
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Post#149 » by BigDee » Mon Jun 24, 2013 9:47 pm

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Post#150 » by midranger » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:10 am

It's as easy to invent a scenario where we would have won every single Super Bowl since 2007 had Moss come here, as it is to fabricate the worst possible case scenario.

In all likelihood, he'd have come here, provided 3 years of elite WR production, and then been dumped for a better pick than we hypothetically traded for him when he started bitching. Why is that likely? Because that is what happened in reality.

The rest of the stuff is extraneous speculation. Big miss.
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Post#151 » by eagle13 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:50 pm

I was for getting both Moss and Lynch. Both were TT misses. However whether we won another SB or not there would have been zero chance of loosing Rodgers – regardless of Farve’s continued success. TT and M3 knew what they had in Rodgers and would have done whatever was necessary. They proved that. The 49ers traded Joe Montana while he was still a winner when it came time to play Young. If TT has shown any rule of thumb – its he’ll go with the younger guy.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#152 » by eagle13 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:54 pm

The Viking Packer trash recycle is still open I see. This year Vikes get report on both our O & D.
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Post#153 » by jakecronus8 » Wed Jun 26, 2013 12:39 am

Favre, Longwell, Bishop, Jennings, not really trash IMO.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#154 » by MasterChef » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:31 am

It just shows you how good our organization is when a division rival can build a playoff contending team with our scraps :)
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#155 » by El Duderino » Wed Jun 26, 2013 4:55 am

jakecronus8 wrote:Favre, Longwell, Bishop, Jennings, not really trash IMO.


If you go back around the last 10 years or so, the Vikings have been given a lot of flack for using trades and free agency quite often compared to many other teams like the Packers.

Take a look though at who they've signed and traded for, their front office probably was more successful than the vast majority of other teams by smartly landing guys like Jared Allen, Pat Williams, Winfield, Hutchinson, Sharper, Longwell, etc. It's been poor drafting and lacking QB play which has mainly kept them behind the Packers for a lot of the last 10-15 years.
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Re: Barring restructure, Packers will release Bishop 

Post#156 » by Newz » Wed Jun 26, 2013 3:46 pm

El Duderino wrote:
jakecronus8 wrote:Favre, Longwell, Bishop, Jennings, not really trash IMO.


If you go back around the last 10 years or so, the Vikings have been given a lot of flack for using trades and free agency quite often compared to many other teams like the Packers.

Take a look though at who they've signed and traded for, their front office probably was more successful than the vast majority of other teams by smartly landing guys like Jared Allen, Pat Williams, Winfield, Hutchinson, Sharper, Longwell, etc. It's been poor drafting and lacking QB play which has mainly kept them behind the Packers for a lot of the last 10-15 years.


I think the major difference is just the QB spot, to be honest.

When you two guys as good as Favre and Rodgers over a 20-25 year span (and counting)... the other teams in the division are just totally f'ed unless they somehow find an elite/near elite QB themselves. None of the other teams in our division have been able to do so... that's why we win so often. (Outside of when the Vikings picked up Favre)

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