BaunceyChillups wrote:OrlDave wrote:I'll take my stab at this as well. Didn't someone post that Ben's man defense was actually more effective than Victor's? Held players to a lower shooting % ect? You then say he doesn't draw fouls? He drew the same as Oladipo per game (slight more actually, 3.7 v. 3.6) but made more due to his superior FT% (3.2 v. 2.7). Then there is the undefinable "motor" thing. Hard to dispute what is not definable. Yeah... he's got more MOTOR. Alright, I'll take your word for it?
Ben was a hyped freshman versus Oladipo, a guy who nobody talked about till his JUNIOR season. It's hard to compare the two accurately.
Well you're wrong about his man defense since McLemore was notorious for giving up penetration and for not being in his stance, his closeouts were also hilariously bad (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=MHaCrtbL_zg#t=730s). PLus McLemore's FT per FGA, FT per 40 and FT per possession all round out the bottom of this year's shooting guard crop. Oladipo ranks higher than him in all of those categories inspite of having a lower usage %.
I'm not wrong about that article, it was posted a few days ago, but I'm not going to skim through this thread finding it. This is one reason the spec threads drive me nuts, hard to ever easily find anything. If anyone has that and could post it, that'd be awesome. I will post this comparison done a few weeks ago.
http://www.brightsideofthesun.com/2013/ ... erspective
"Although Ben McLemore's defensive skills don't quite match up to Oladipo's he proved to be an effective defender during his freshman year at Kansas. Like Oladipo, he is also a good shot-blocker for the shooting guard position and is a good on-ball defender (though not quite as great as Victor). However, he was not nearly as consistent on the defensive end as Oladipo was and had a tendency to get lost during possessions where he was defending off the ball. Even with his occasional lapses, McLemore posted a great defensive rating of 93.3 and with some more consistency and a higher motor on that end of the floor, he projects to be a good NBA defender due to his size, length, and athleticism."
Basically it's saying he's a good defender who has lapses. Sounds like most freshmen defenders ever. You learn consistency. Oladipo had 3 years in the system and Ben had 1. Also, you bring up a point, usage rates don't often skyrocket in the NBA. The fact that Victor's usage rates were so bad, despite being considered Indiana's best player (or tie with Cody) makes you question if he could ever be a focal point on offense.
