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Hendo Vs Oladipo

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Who Would You Take?

Hendo over Oladipo
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20%
Oladipo over Hendo
12
80%
 
Total votes: 15

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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#21 » by BeesWax » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:40 pm

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you're wrong. its okay to love Oladipo but you're deluding yourself into thinking he's something he's not. You can harp on intangibles all you want but Oladipo simply does not have the tangible skills to be even a poor mans version of those players because his style isn't even similar. Theres no actual reason to believe Oladipo can randomly become an elite slasher or point guard any more than McLemore. You say Oladipo has proven great work ethic because he became a much better player over 3 years of college but you don't give fair due to McLemore who was a freakin power forward until late in high school and converted his game to become an elite college SG in a short time. You are displaying heavy bias in how you judge these 2 players


My point was he is as close to Wade as McLemore is to Allen. That is true no matter what. Both have a long way to go to get where they want to be but Oladipo has more skills to translate into the NBA as a full player now. He can dribble it is not great but it is serviceable and he did run his team for some spots during the year. Your bias toward McLemore is fine I don't care wether you love him or not but he hasn't shown the same hard work the Oladipo has yet. I am going of what has been seen and what we know from the stats. In this case Oladipo is ay further along than McLemore. Oladipo has better numbers as a junior that Roy did and the progression to this point has been very similar.


I'm not biased at all. I don't even want us to draft McLemore over Oladipo. But that doesn't mean I will blindly agree with the way you're looking at them if you're using non logical justifications. Comparing Oladipo to Wade and Roy when his ballhandling is average and he has no passing talent is like comparing Bennett to LeBron. It doesn't make any sense


The problem is you are comparing them now. Wade averaged 4.4 assists and 3.2 turnover so sure he tried to handle it more but he was not really a high caliber PG by and stretch plus Wade was a worse shooter the Oladipo and Roy averaged only 2.2 assists and 1.5 turnovers as a junior while also shooting a worse percentage. Oladipo is not horribly far off either of this sets of numbers and has the ability to stretch the defense better than either of them did. This will allow him to use what is considered a good first step to get some straight line drive, which he is good at while he works on ball handling. They share WAY more in common than you are giving credit for. If you watch their games at the same point in their careers you would see the similarities.
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#22 » by KembaWalker » Sun Jun 23, 2013 7:53 pm

so you're assuming he can randomly develop his average abilities to NBA all elite levels but McLemore can't because of work ethic. But theres no reason to believe Oladipo has better work ethic than McLemore. both have made ridiculous improvements to their games in recent years. its a bad argument
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#23 » by BeesWax » Sun Jun 23, 2013 8:08 pm

No it's not a bad argument. McLemore was a top 100 SG or SF depending on the site coming out. He is still a SG and with a whole year to do nothing but work on his game he still only shoots. After a year of practice his ball handling skills should at least be on par with Oladipo but they are not.

The problem with your argument is that Roy did not have elite ball handling skills as a Junior at Washington. Go back and look at the progression of Roy at Washington and match it to Oladipo's and you will see why the comparison there is very very good. They are following and almost identical path of progression at this point.
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#24 » by chicagobullz48 » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:25 pm

i like dipo! I heard jordan worked with melo to make him a better scorer,If cats take dipo jordan seems like he can take dipo to the next level.All dipo has to do is become a 20+ ppg scorer and become a better passer and he'll be like wade.he already has the slashing,rebounding,defense he just needs to be able to score.Its up to him he can be a role player or he can live up to the wade/jordan comparisions.Your future is all up to you.If he comes in and tried to just be humble and let other guys score,run the team etc them people will say yeah thats tony allen.He has to come out with a chip on his shoulder from the gate.
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#25 » by KembaWalker » Sun Jun 23, 2013 11:43 pm

i agree, all he has to do is become a 20ppg scorer and good passer and he would be the next Wade. no sweat
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#26 » by BeesWax » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:01 am

Since he shoots as well as he does and has some ball handling skills and a good head for the game it may not take as long as you think Kemba.
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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#27 » by Snidely FC » Mon Jun 24, 2013 12:32 am

I see them as similar players, but feel we've seen Hendo's ceiling. Based on his personality Olidpo's ceiling could be higher. I'd take that chance.

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Re: Hendo Vs Oladipo 

Post#28 » by BigSlam » Mon Jun 24, 2013 1:20 am

'Dipo with the win.

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