The 2013 Trade Thread II

[James Gatz]

Pek for anything around 10/year would be a solid deal.

[Liver_Pooty]

I saw this mentioned elsewhere:

I would like to see us go get Aldridge from Portland our 4 and hendo and 1 st round pick next year in exchange for Aldridge and their 1 st this year might would work. Draft zeller or McCollum at 10 and nice trade all around for both sides. Starting line of walker mccullum mkg Aldridge and biz not too shabby, especially with 2 1st round picks to add next year.

I have always had a man crush on LMA but that seems like a lot to give.

We can't trade our first next year since it isn't ours to trade.

[TheKingofSting]

My main concern would be are we overpaying Pek? It could be almost as detrimental to the rebuild as trading for Bosh. I am not comparing their games but in terms of making a big panic move.

I look at it as would you rather have Hendo for Pek money or Pek for Pek money?

Good point, as long as he doesn't try to push the max envelope I could live with it.

[TheKingofSting]

I saw this mentioned elsewhere:

I would like to see us go get Aldridge from Portland our 4 and hendo and 1 st round pick next year in exchange for Aldridge and their 1 st this year might would work. Draft zeller or McCollum at 10 and nice trade all around for both sides. Starting line of walker mccullum mkg Aldridge and biz not too shabby, especially with 2 1st round picks to add next year.

I have always had a man crush on LMA but that seems like a lot to give.

We can't trade our first next year since it isn't ours to trade.

Didn't think of that and honestly just now realized it said our pick next year, I was thinking it was just the Detroit pick.

[Eoghan]

My main concern would be are we overpaying Pek? It could be almost as detrimental to the rebuild as trading for Bosh. I am not comparing their games but in terms of making a big panic move.

Charlotte's more than likely going to have go always overpay a free agent, unfortunately.

True that, sadly. As long as we overpay FAs that can actually play we will be okay.

[TheKingofSting]

My biggest fear is someone Tyrusing us, I guess that is just part of the life of a Charlotte fan.

[MasterIchiro]

Pek will undoubtedly be our #1 FA target, would we move some assets to get past his restriction?

I think he would be worth it.

Henderson+Haywood+Portland pick

for

Pekovic+#26

According to those rumors, Minny closed the door on Hendo + POR or DET.

I'm fascinated to see the value of the POR pick escalate as soon as POR trades LMA. And I'd like to see what happens to the worth of the DET pick if DET finishes bottom 5 next year.

Now that Cousins is supposedly being shopped, it adds an interesting dynamic.

Cho would pull an absolute coupe if he keeps 4 and acquires Cousins or Pek. I do feel he would be willing to part with 4 for either though. But if he traded Hendo + 4 for Pek, who is the shooting guard? We would have to include POR and get back 9.

[BeesWax]

Pek for anything around 10/year would be a solid deal.

I agree unless Jmac is right and our big board was they way he says he saw it.

[TheKingofSting]

I like Pek and Big Al.

[HornetJail]

I'd trade Hendo and #4 for Pek and #26. This draft sucks, I don't think highly of #4 or Hendo frankly.

No. No. No. No. No.

Even in this draft, Pekovic isn't worth a top 5 pick. Sure he averages 16/9, which is great, but he's not a great defensive player, and he has a very hard time staying healthy. Wouldn't trade #4 for Pekovic, nor would I pay him eight figures a year, and I definitely would not trade Gerald for the 26th pick, when it's likely we simply could buy a pick that late.

Since we're doing all these Hendo/Pek comparisons:

Pekovic @ 4/48. $12M a season- that's all-star money
OR
Hendo @ 4/28. $7M a season- Arron Afflalo, Marcus Thornton, and probably Tony Allen will all make more than this, very fair contract for both the team and Gerald.

Who do you take?

[Liver_Pooty]

I'd trade Hendo and #4 for Pek and #26. This draft sucks, I don't think highly of #4 or Hendo frankly.

No. No. No. No. No.

Even in this draft, Pekovic isn't worth a top 5 pick. Sure he averages 16/9, which is great, but he's not a great defensive player, and he has a very hard time staying healthy. Wouldn't trade #4 for Pekovic, nor would I pay him eight figures a year, and I definitely would not trade Gerald for the 26th pick, when it's likely we simply could buy a pick that late.

Since we're doing all these Hendo/Pek comparisons:

Pekovic @ 4/48. $12M a season- that's all-star money
OR
Hendo @ 4/28. $7M a season- Arron Afflalo, Marcus Thornton, and probably Tony Allen will all make more than this, very fair contract for both the team and Gerald.

Who do you take?

I sign Pekovic to 10-11/ year, keep 4 and take Oladipo or McLemore.

[Eoghan]

I'd trade Hendo and #4 for Pek and #26. This draft sucks, I don't think highly of #4 or Hendo frankly.

No. No. No. No. No.

Even in this draft, Pekovic isn't worth a top 5 pick.

Stopped reading after this.

[HornetJail]

I'd trade Hendo and #4 for Pek and #26. This draft sucks, I don't think highly of #4 or Hendo frankly.

No. No. No. No. No.

Even in this draft, Pekovic isn't worth a top 5 pick. Sure he averages 16/9, which is great, but he's not a great defensive player, and he has a very hard time staying healthy. Wouldn't trade #4 for Pekovic, nor would I pay him eight figures a year, and I definitely would not trade Gerald for the 26th pick, when it's likely we simply could buy a pick that late.

Since we're doing all these Hendo/Pek comparisons:

Pekovic @ 4/48. $12M a season- that's all-star money
OR
Hendo @ 4/28. $7M a season- Arron Afflalo, Marcus Thornton, and probably Tony Allen will all make more than this, very fair contract for both the team and Gerald.

Who do you take?

I sign Pekovic to 10-11/ year, keep 4 and take Oladipo or McLemore.

I take Hendo for about 3-4M less per year, take #4 and either use it to trade for Cousins, etc. or just select Len who could end up being as good if not better than Pekovic. Plus I get to do all this without having to rescind Mully or McBob.

[BeesWax]

I'd trade Hendo and #4 for Pek and #26. This draft sucks, I don't think highly of #4 or Hendo frankly.

No. No. No. No. No.

Even in this draft, Pekovic isn't worth a top 5 pick.

Stopped reading after this.

Well it is closer than you think when you factor in age and cost. We would give up a top five pick to more than double the pay and take a guy who is 7 years older that a draftee. If we took Len and he turned out to be better in 2 years then this would be a bad trade. It all depends on how much you want to gamble. Sense we can't trade for him until July anyway it seems like a great chance to see what's on the board and who we like before having to make the call.

[fatlever]

putting these two trade rumors together - best case scenario for both

trade #1 - pek for hendo and det pick
trade #2 - dwill, 9 and 26 for 4

pick at #9 - zeller, adams, kcp, bazz or mccollum
pick at #26 - hardaway jr, bullock, ledo, dieng. withey, franklin

possible lineups

pg: walker | sessions
sg: franklin | gordon
sf: mkg | taylor
pf: williams | zeller
c: pekovic | biyombo

or

pg: walker | sessions
sg: kcp | gordon
sf: mkg | taylor
pf: williams | biyombo
c: pekovic | dieng

is that more promising than

pg: walker | sessions
sg: hendo | gordon
sf: mkg | taylor
pf: bennett | mcroberts
c: biyombo | haywood
and det pick

or

pg: walker | sessions
sg: hendo | gordon
sf: mkg | taylor
pf: biyombo | mcroberts
c: len | haywood
and det pick

[Eoghan]

I like trade 2 better because we only lose the #4 and Williams fits the age of our core better but I doubt Minny gives us that many picks unfortunately.

[JT2006]

I'd rather have #4. Spreading risk works in finance but not in sports.

[Bassman]

In a weaker draft, it is all about impact. Is there truly anyone that we believe is an impact player in this draft, and can we get him at 4? If not, look to find a veteran and picks that could provide potential impact greater than #4. The Williams 9 & 26 scenario for 4 seems tempting, but it gets us a marginal player at the 4 who may never break out. Still, I just do not see us getting that return anyway. If that trade could go down, you almost have to consider the Pek trade in order to get our big 5 UNLESS we believe the Detroit pick will present a major impact downstream.

But...in this draft quantity will not translate in quality, so the extra picks may be pointless.

Therefore I am all for holding onto 4 unless there is a significant opportunity for an impact deal (Cousins).

[Liver_Pooty]

Rumor: talks between MIN and BKN regarding a Marhson Brooks trade have initiated

http://www.nydailynews.com/blogs/net...marshon-brooks

Minnesota has shown interest in the third-year guard out of Providence, calling around the league for feedback and initiating trade discussions. Talks have not escalated to anything serious or imminent at the moment, according to a source. However, another source said that a proposal is on the table waiting for the Timberwolves' approval.

The Timberwolves have an excess of experienced point guards, and the Nets are searching for one because CJ Watson will opt out of contract by the June 30 deadline. JJ Barea and Luke Ridnour would seem to fit the Nets’ needs, although it's unclear if they've been discussed in trade scenarios.

[Liver_Pooty]

Also its rumored the Clips and Magic will make the Afflalo for Bledsoe swap on draft night.