Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks

mohammed10 · Post #21 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:28 pm

After stepping back for a moment...

Deng has had consecutive career lows in FG% the last two years. This wasn’t a sudden drop-off either. Since 2010, he has been jacking more and more 3s and, as a result, his FG% has dropped off as a result. Yeah, I know that he’s only 28, but he’s already played a ton of minutes in his career and will probably be wearing down soon. He’s a slightly above average player with an oversized contract who will be on the down-swing of his career soon. We don't need another Nene!

Woody Ball · Post #22 » by **Woody Ball** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:33 pm

I'm actively trying to turn this into a trade that makes any sense for the Wizards. How's this?

Okafor traded for Deng. Wiz use Deng as a stretch 4.
Wiz pick a big at #3 (Noel or Len, whichever falls).
Resign Webster

Wall -> Beal -> Webster -> Deng -> Noel/Len
Nene/Ariza first two off the bench.

This would put Wall with 3 good shooters, which would open up the lane, in theory. Could Deng defend the 4?

No way anything resembling this goes down including the #3 pick.

mohammed10 · Post #23 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 pm

Woody Ball wrote:I'm actively trying to turn this into a trade that makes any sense for the Wizards. How's this?

Okafor traded for Deng. Wiz use Deng as a stretch 4.
Wiz pick a big at #3 (Noel or Len, whichever falls).
Resign Webster

Wall -> Beal -> Webster -> Deng -> Noel/Len
Nene/Ariza first two off the bench.

This would put Wall with 3 good shooters, which would open up the lane, in theory. Could Deng defend the 4?

No way anything resembling this goes down including the #3 pick.

Woody - you forgot that our #3 was going to Chicago to acquire Deng's talents...

Dat2U · Post #24 » by **Dat2U** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:35 pm

dobrojim wrote:I know there is reasonable cause to criticize EG but why does anyone
think he'd want to trade Okafor, one of our best players last year and
the 3rd overall pick for Deng? Porter figures to possibly be as good as Deng
by himself. I think the Wizards like Okafor and it would take something
a whole lot better than this to pry him loose from our roster.

the EG hate is making some folks here batcrap crazy.

Sorry dobrojim, I can't give him the benefit of the doubt. He's given me no reason to do so.

This is the same guy that traded a #5 for two expiring contracts. Why wouldn't he do something as stupid as the rumor suggests?

Woody Ball · Post #25 » by **Woody Ball** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:36 pm

mohammed10 wrote:
Woody Ball wrote:I'm actively trying to turn this into a trade that makes any sense for the Wizards. How's this?

Okafor traded for Deng. Wiz use Deng as a stretch 4.
Wiz pick a big at #3 (Noel or Len, whichever falls).
Resign Webster

Wall -> Beal -> Webster -> Deng -> Noel/Len
Nene/Ariza first two off the bench.

This would put Wall with 3 good shooters, which would open up the lane, in theory. Could Deng defend the 4?

No way anything resembling this goes down including the #3 pick.

Woody - you forgot that our #3 was going to Chicago to acquire Deng's talents...

I didn't forget it. I ignored it.

I know everyone thinks EG is a terrible GM (I do too), but even he can't be that bad. Can he?

mohammed10 · Post #26 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:38 pm

Woody - Okafor for Deng straight up would be a decent conversation.

Okafor + #3 Pick for Deng and nothing else is **** hilarious. . . unless it happens. In that case, EG will be forced out Egyptian President style.

sfam · Post #27 » by **sfam** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:38 pm

I just heard a rumour that the Wizards were considering trading John Wall for a popsicle stick. Ernie SUCKS to be even considering this trade! Fire him now!

Upper Decker · Post #28 » by **Upper Decker** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:39 pm

If EG insists on trading the picks my preference, based on rumors, would be:
1. #3 + filler for Ersan
2. #3 + Vesely for Williams + #9

This trade for Deng would be the tipping point. I'd bail on the Wizards and shift all my energy in to hoping utter failure and continual disappointment to be with Ted and EG for eternity. Let's hope this rumor is bunk.

mohammed10 · Post #29 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:39 pm

It is troubling that every time a GM wants to float a crazy rumor they seem to choose Ernie as the fall guy though...

:roll:

MikeTheKid · Post #30 » by **MikeTheKid** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:42 pm

mohammed10 wrote:It is troubling that every time a GM wants to float a crazy rumor they seem to choose Ernie as the fall guy though...

Because Bryan Colangelo is no longer running the Raptors

mohammed10 · Post #31 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:43 pm

MikeTheKid wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:It is troubling that every time a GM wants to float a crazy rumor they seem to choose Ernie as the fall guy though...

Because Bryan Colangelo is no longer running the Raptors

Ditto David Kahn in Minny - lol

Upper Decker · Post #32 » by **Upper Decker** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:50 pm

mohammed10 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:It is troubling that every time a GM wants to float a crazy rumor they seem to choose Ernie as the fall guy though...

Because Bryan Colangelo is no longer running the Raptors

Ditto David Kahn in Minny - lol

But Kahn swindled EG...

truwizfan4evr · Post #33 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:50 pm

Are you kidding me? Are third pick for Deng he's not only aging he always injured and at his stage of his career is not worth a third pick.

truwizfan4evr · Post #34 » by **truwizfan4evr** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:53 pm

Ernie saving his job instead of helping us long term Deng is up there in age there way better deals he can get then trading for Deng lets just keep the pick and draft someone instead?

Post #35 » by **Ruzious** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 6:57 pm

Dat2U wrote:
dobrojim wrote:I know there is reasonable cause to criticize EG but why does anyone
think he'd want to trade Okafor, one of our best players last year and
the 3rd overall pick for Deng? Porter figures to possibly be as good as Deng
by himself. I think the Wizards like Okafor and it would take something
a whole lot better than this to pry him loose from our roster.

the EG hate is making some folks here batcrap crazy.

Sorry dobrojim, I can't give him the benefit of the doubt. He's given me no reason to do so.

This is the same guy that traded a #5 for two expiring contracts. Why wouldn't he do something as stupid as the rumor suggests?

Yup. This is why we can't write off this rumor as impossible just because of its foolishness. Ted has seemingly evolved into the kind of person who wants to show people - "I told you I knew what I was doing, and I'll prove it by doing it again." Why else has he kept EG year after year?

mohammed10 · Post #36 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:00 pm

truwizfan4evr wrote:Ernie saving his job instead of helping us long term Deng is up there and age there way better deals he can get then trading for Deng lets just keep the pick and draft someone instead?

Unless Ernie is a sleeper cell agent from the Bulls

...he’s not from Chicago, is he?

mohammed10 · Post #37 » by **mohammed10** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:02 pm

Upper Decker wrote:
mohammed10 wrote:
MikeTheKid wrote:
Because Bryan Colangelo is no longer running the Raptors

Ditto David Kahn in Minny - lol

But Kahn swindled EG...

In that case...is it too late to trade the pick for Foye and Miller?
Because I’d rather do that than this trade, which would be worse. We’d start Seraphin at center or Booker at PF (both big time drops in talent from last year) for the privilege of adding an inefficient scorer at SF for one year at the same inflated salary Okafor will receive. For that we’d give up the 3rd overall pick? Ugh - no!

Post #38 » by **miller31time** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:04 pm

If we're so desperate to acquire an all-star all forward with veteran experience, why not trade for Paul Pierce? We wouldn't even have to give them anything of value.

TheBabyMaker · Post #39 » by **TheBabyMaker** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:04 pm

See this is the kind of crap that comes up every year that makes the Wizards mediocre or bottomfeeders in the league than wonder why fans give up on the team. Man I'm a die hard but I will die hard before this team wins again without some mentality changes from management down to the fans.

A deal like this would certainly make me stop watching wizards games. Come on for real though.

TGW · Post #40 » by **TGW** » Mon Jun 24, 2013 7:08 pm

It's not happening. Just more BS involving the third pick being traded for some marginal upgrade.

This is what good GMs do...they float a BS rumor out there in order to raise a player's value. Everyone knows Deng isn't worth a top-5 pick, no matter how weak the draft is.

This is exactly like the Rudy Gay for Brad Beal rumors that were flying during the trade deadline.