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Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition)

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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#261 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:04 am

Finally, Brian Shaw got a job. Started to feel bad for the guy. Nuggets it is.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#262 » by orlando1214 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:08 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Finally, Brian Shaw got a job. Started to feel bad for the guy. Nuggets it is.


Good for him! I felt bad for him as well, although I was starting to wonder why it was that so many teams were passing on him. Glad he's getting a chance though, a much better choice then going with Vinny Del Negro in my opinion.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#263 » by Skin » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:14 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:@chadfordinsider tells me the @magic have done more research on @NerlensNoel3 than any other draftee!

If we end up taking him, then at least we can be rest assured that they did their homework.

Not to sound negative, but we all said the same thing when we signed Grant Hill.

Grant Hill will forever be knows as the worst player in Magic history in my books.

I agree though. Doctors can only say how a player looks right now. They cannot say what will happen to him in the future with any confidence, unless his injury was degenerative or gone past repair. Such is not the case with an ACL injury.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#264 » by Neon1 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:40 am

rcklsscognition wrote:Rating 1-10 how pissed will you be if the following is traded (1 being least, 10 most):

1) Nelson
2) Davis
3) Afflalo
4) Vucevic
5) Harris
6) Harkless
7) Nicholson
8) Moore
9) Lamb
10) O'Quinn


1) Nelson- 2
2) Davis- 1
3) Afflalo-1
4) Vucevic- 10
5) Harris- 10
6) Harkless- 6
7) Nicholson-6
8) Moore-1
9) Lamb-2
10) O'Quinn-2
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Post#265 » by Bensational » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:47 am

if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#266 » by MagicTownBaller » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:04 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:Rating 1-10 how pissed will you be if the following is traded (1 being least, 10 most):

1) Nelson
2) Davis
3) Afflalo
4) Vucevic
5) Harris
6) Harkless
7) Nicholson
8) Moore
9) Lamb
10) O'Quinn


1) Nelson- 2
2) Davis- 1
3) Afflalo-1
4) Vucevic- 10
5) Harris- 10
6) Harkless- 6
7) Nicholson-6
8) Moore-1
9) Lamb-2
10) O'Quinn-2


1) Nelson- 1
2) Davis- 5
3) Afflalo- 1
4) Vucevic- 10
5) Harris- 10
6) Harkless- 10
7) Nicholson- 7
8) Moore- 2
9) Lamb- 1
10) O'Quinn- 5

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Post#267 » by strongmind3 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:05 am

94_MagicFan wrote:Wonder if Bledsoe will wear #1


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Post#268 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:07 am

Bensational wrote:if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?


Something like Bledsoe to Utah, Butler/Burks to Orlando, Afflalo to LAC and the Magic got #14, #21 and if possible the Clippers pick.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#269 » by The Effect » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:08 am

Since we apparently are lookign hard at Noel, if he goes #1, could anyone see US taking len? I mean we already have one of the top 5 YOUNG centers in the league, but could it hurt to have two talented 7fters with good offensive games?

I mean with no clear cut #1-2 picks in thie draft, can we really going wrong with taking a big man with high upside?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#270 » by The Effect » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:09 am

rcklsscognition wrote:
Bensational wrote:if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?


Something like Bledsoe to Utah, Butler/Burks to Orlando, Afflalo to LAC and the Magic got #14, #21 and if possible the Clippers pick.

Might just be me, but Id much rather have Bledsoe than 14+21
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Post#271 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:10 am

Bensational wrote:if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?

something like
LA Clippers get: AA
Utah Get: Bledsoe
Magic get: Favors, Butler

and yes utah would deal Favors for a Starting PG. Young Promising PG for young promising PF/C seems fair to me.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#272 » by Magic08 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:10 am

This was on the main board.

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... ic-bledsoe

Thought if this deal is made?
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#273 » by MagicFan32 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:11 am

wow, the posts about Noel here are getting extremely ignorant. try watching the games, sheesh.
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Post#274 » by MagicFan32 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:15 am

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Carlos Arroyo wrote:

Clever statement by the OPP. They don't say that there are any sources linked to it, or that they are the actual source.

All they are doing is writing speculation. So don't confuse their speculation with something that is really going to happen. We all have been expecting something like this to happen. Whether it does or not is another thing. What's being said there is nothing different from what is said every day here.

They are speculating. Not reporting.

Yeah, on their source, the "sportscity" article, the rumor is randomly thrown in at the end of the article. Disappointing.


mark heisler is a very reputeable source when it comes to LA Basketball teams
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Post#275 » by TDJacksonville » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:16 am

Magic08 wrote:This was on the main board.

http://www.orlandopinstripedpost.com/20 ... ic-bledsoe

Thought if this deal is made?

do it then flip bledsoe for Favors 8-)
Trade Butler for a future 1 or another JJ kind of trade ;)
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#276 » by Def Swami » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:20 am

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Couple small updates... Bulls reportedly called Washington about the #3 and talks didn't get much further than that. Luol Deng staying put

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Minnesota has called a number of teams looking to move a pick for a veteran... could go big guy with the #9...

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Jazz also expected to go big with their first pick... not as in love with the points guards that could be there at 14 as they are the bigs.
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Post#277 » by tiderulz » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:20 am

TDJacksonville wrote:
Bensational wrote:if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?

something like
LA Clippers get: AA
Utah Get: Bledsoe
Magic get: Favors, Butler

and yes utah would deal Favors for a Starting PG. Young Promising PG for young promising PF/C seems fair to me.


sorry, but you are crazy. No way Utah moves Favors for bledsoe.
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#278 » by KillMonger » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:21 am

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rcklsscognition wrote:
Bensational wrote:if we're playing middle man on deals, then i'd imagine we'll be getting young guys and draft picks. Clips only have Bledsoe - who else can they offer?

or, who else could want Bledsoe that bad that they'd give up a bunch for him? Utah, Detroit, New Orleans, Sacramento, Boston and New York are probably the most PG hungry.

TEAM - ASSETS
UTAH - #14, #21, A.Burks
DETROIT - #8, Knight, Stuckey
NEW ORLEANS - #6, Gordon, Aminu, Anderson
SACRAMENTO - #7, Thompson, Patterson, Tyreke
BOSTON - #16, Garnett, Pierce, Sullinger, Bradley, Rondo
NEW YORK - #24, Shumpert

is there a big enough package that can get Favors/Drummond/Monroe/DMC on the move? Bledsoe + #2?


Something like Bledsoe to Utah, Butler/Burks to Orlando, Afflalo to LAC and the Magic got #14, #21 and if possible the Clippers pick.

Might just be me, but Id much rather have Bledsoe than 14+21

yeah that might be just you.....rather have more assets than less
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Re: Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition 

Post#279 » by rcklsscognition » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:24 am

What PG would be on the board at 14/21? Larkin?
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Post#280 » by Orlando Prodigy » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:25 am

WHY DO PEOPLE THINK LATE FIRST ROUNDERS IN A WEAK DRAFT ARE ASSETS? I'd rather have Bledsoe than anyone in the 20's in THIS draft.

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