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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#101 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:33 am

Daaaarryyl wrote:
Ruzious wrote:This isn't his board. He's just got common sense.


Yeah. I'm a Knicks fan and I love this time of year with the draft and trade rumors. So I just go from board to board to read but rarely ever post on other team's boards.

I was just surprised by BearJew's comment/pot shot over mere trade rumors.

You're certainly welcome here, and I don't say that about most Knicks fans.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#102 » by Martial » Tue Jun 25, 2013 8:49 am

Deeptu McPullup wrote:So, it's been emphatically shellacked with excretions of the lower orifice by the punditgencia.

Kyler's not the greatest source, but this is what many here expected:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/349331884565725184[/tweet]

Put me down as being lukewarm on Okafor for Deng WITHOUT the 3rd pick included.


Absolutely ZERO chance the Bulls trade Deng for Okafor alone. That would be a horrible trade.

However, if the Bulls want to pursue the original trade I could see something like:

Bulls get: #3 pick, Okafor
Wizards get: Deng, Bobcats pick, #20 pick
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#103 » by Deeptu McPullup » Tue Jun 25, 2013 11:44 am

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Deeptu McPullup wrote:So, it's been emphatically shellacked with excretions of the lower orifice by the punditgencia.

Kyler's not the greatest source, but this is what many here expected:

[tweet]https://twitter.com/stevekylerNBA/status/349331884565725184[/tweet]

Put me down as being lukewarm on Okafor for Deng WITHOUT the 3rd pick included.


Absolutely ZERO chance the Bulls trade Deng for Okafor alone. That would be a horrible trade.

However, if the Bulls want to pursue the original trade I could see something like:

Bulls get: #3 pick, Okafor
Wizards get: Deng, Bobcats pick, #20 pick


Nobody here is even remotely interested in getting Deng.

He's a uniquely awful fit with Wall coming in as a $14 million expiring to what was our deepest position last year. Deng just does nothing for us; we have lots of holes, but Deng fills none of them.

He's maybe the fifth or sixth most desirable guy from the 2013 Bulls for us to acquire.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#104 » by nate33 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 12:29 pm

barelyawake wrote:The oxen have a castrated bull as their leader, who wouldn't lace-up despite pleading from teammates/fans because he didnt feel meadowy fresh for a playoff series.

That said, I think an extended Deng might work (in the theoretical), if other moves are made. Say we have cousins wanting to come here (and the capspace for him) and we get picks out of the deal with Chicago. Much easier said than done. But, my point is if this ever did go down (unlikely) it could be one of a few moves. Again, unlikely, but say we ended up as:

Wall
Beal
Deng
Cousins
Okafor
Plus picks...

Trust me. I get how pipe dreamy the above is. Just saying there are moves that COULD make a Deng trade palatable.

Nope. Still not palatable. If we're paying Wall and Cousins max contracts, we can't afford to pay $14M-a-year contracts to mediocre vets like Okafor and Deng.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#105 » by MissileMike » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:09 pm

Another bulls fan here... The only way I see this as plausible is if the bulls are throwing in their Charlotte pick, which becomes less and less protected until 3 years from now when it's completely unprotected. But from the looks of it, the whole thing is bs anyway.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#106 » by Dat2U » Tue Jun 25, 2013 1:20 pm

I understand why Chicago would want to get rid of Deng. Butler is probably the better player at this stage and still on a rookie deal. Plus Deng is in a gradual decline... sorta like Hinrich was a few years back and Deng is an upcoming free agent. The smart move is cashing in now for a longer term asset. The Bulls are shooting too high if they're trying to get the 3rd. Maybe they get a late lottery pick at best, more likely a mid 1st rounder for Deng at this stage.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#107 » by Sundis » Tue Jun 25, 2013 2:41 pm

TheKingOfVa360 wrote:
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Go back to watching Derek Rose

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Oh, haha...Rose joke, hilarious, 'cause that hasn't been happening for months now ey. Think of something new perhaps?



Get off our board bro, and enjoy watching Rose on the bench. I'm not here to amuse you. The Deng deal isn't going to happen.


I apologise and will get off the board. Didn't even mean to upset anyone in the first place. Also I never said it will happen, i very much doubt it actually. Peace and goodluck.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#108 » by Ruzious » Tue Jun 25, 2013 3:04 pm

Dat2U wrote:I understand why Chicago would want to get rid of Deng. Butler is probably the better player at this stage and still on a rookie deal. Plus Deng is in a gradual decline... sorta like Hinrich was a few years back and Deng is an upcoming free agent. The smart move is cashing in now for a longer term asset. The Bulls are shooting too high if they're trying to get the 3rd. Maybe they get a late lottery pick at best, more likely a mid 1st rounder for Deng at this stage.

Yeah, that's what smart successful organizations do - trade veterans maybe a year before it's obvious they're in decline. Heck, he even made the All-Star team. Now, whether or not they'll find a taker - I don't know - but it's the right strategy.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#109 » by barelyawake » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:44 pm

Well, this is academic because the trade is not, and never was, going to happen. But, Nate, I was counting on both Okafor and Deng resigning for considerably less. Anyway... Next topic...
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#110 » by TheKingOfVa360 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 4:46 pm

Sundis wrote:I apologise and will get off the board. Didn't even mean to upset anyone in the first place. Also I never said it will happen, i very much doubt it actually. Peace and goodluck.



It's cool you just have to see things from Wizards fans perspective. This trade is a nightmare for our fan base, then you come on the board trolling happy for the trade to happen even when it's been confirmed by multiple reliable sources as a no go. As Wizards fans we have been through enough pain and trade rumors like this isn't amusing for us.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#111 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:37 pm

TGW wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
dobrojim wrote:the EG hate is making some folks here batcrap crazy.


:nod:


You can use that smilie all you want Rico, but you know any trade rumor is fair game when Ernie is involved.


You're ignoring the fact that most of the rumors are false to begin with.

It was really hard to see why EG would trade Okafor after one year when he actually
did reasonably well.

Not any rumor is to be automatically believed just because of EG.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#112 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:39 pm

The Bear Jew wrote:
Daaaarryyl wrote:
Why are you taking pot shots at fans (on their own board mind you) who are against an absolutely horrible trade offer? gambitx777 posted a piece saying the deal was unlikely. You believe he deserved that response?

:confused:


It was less directed at that quote more than the people on your board dissing Derrick Rose and the Bulls in general, I didn't mean to target him specifically. Regardless though, in all honestly I think you guys have a good young backcourt and you are one YEAR OF REASONABLE HEALTH away from the playoffs, I was just trying to mess with you really.



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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#113 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 5:40 pm

montestewart wrote:
LyricalRico wrote:
dobrojim wrote:the EG hate is making some folks here batcrap crazy.


:nod:

I've hated EG ever since Earl Monroe was traded.



that sir, was well played
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks  

Post#114 » by closg00 » Tue Jun 25, 2013 6:52 pm

Read in the draft thread that the Wiz are still shopping the 3rd pick.
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Re: Another terrible rumor. Ernie sucks 

Post#115 » by dobrojim » Tue Jun 25, 2013 7:22 pm

well that's either stupid or smart.

some folks will proudly proclaim that "everything I own is for sale"
with the caveat being, if the price is high enough.

I get that most here don't trust EG. He's made some horrible trades. And drafts.
That said, not every rumor is well founded and there needs to be some
limit to the general notion held here that the worse the rumored deal,
the more likely it is to be true.
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