Rumored trade out of Sacramento

[Jazzfan154]

2014 Free agency is also overrated since most of the high profile players likely won't leave their situation or come here for that matter.

I disagree. The draft may not have as many good players when you get to the 2nd round. But there is some HUGE talent next year if the right people decide to go in. There are some very talented players who could help turn teams around.

[Lava Rock Kid]

Doesn't matter who we draft, they are not going to start at point guard for this team as a rookie, remember Milt Palacio starting over Dwill

[Lava Rock Kid]

I think it is a good trade.

[babyjax13]

I wouldn't mind it, if we get in the range where McCollum is available, I say pull the trigger.

[eLo]

Benett and Oladipo i think only those two guys are worthed to trade up

[reapaman]

2014 Free agency is also overrated since most of the high profile players likely won't leave their situation or come here for that matter.

I disagree. The draft may not have as many good players when you get to the 2nd round. But there is some HUGE talent next year if the right people decide to go in. There are some very talented players who could help turn teams around.

I won't dive into to much right now unless you want me to but quickly ... Randle and Gordon or both the bad kind of tweeners. Randle looks like a Derrick WIlliams clone while Gordon will have the same issues McAdoo is having. Smart is not a good enough overall scorer for that to be his role in the NBA (well as of right now) and he is far from a natural pg, so what do people expect of him except mabey a better version of Rodney Stuckey?

Hezonja is Gallanari meets Rudy Fernandez. He's an erratic and inconsistent chucker while not having desirable intangibles. Glenn Robinson is going to need more than a year to get over his rawness. And how is Andrew Harrison (Aaron is not worth talking about) any better of a prospect than Tyreke Evans was who was constantly (and still is) criticized? They are very identical playing style wise and both have sucky intangibles. I'll stop there but outside of Wiggins and Parker, I'm not that impressed.

[babyjax13]

2014 Free agency is also overrated since most of the high profile players likely won't leave their situation or come here for that matter.

I disagree. The draft may not have as many good players when you get to the 2nd round. But there is some HUGE talent next year if the right people decide to go in. There are some very talented players who could help turn teams around.

I won't dive into to much right now unless you want me to but quickly ... Randle and Gordon or both the bad kind of tweeners. Randle looks like a Derrick WIlliams clone while Gordon will have the same issues McAdoo is having. Smart is not a good enough overall scorer for that to be his role in the NBA (well as of right now) and he is far from a natural pg, so what do people expect of him except mabey a better version of Rodney Stuckey?

Hezonja is Gallanari meets Rudy Fernandez. He's an erratic and inconsistent chucker while not having desirable intangibles. Glenn Robinson is going to need more than a year to get over his rawness. And how is Andrew Harrison (Aaron is not worth talking about) any better of a prospect than Tyreke Evans was who was constantly (and still is) criticized? They are very identical playing style wise and both have sucky intangibles. I'll stop there but outside of Wiggins and Parker, I'm not that impressed.

I agree with you for the most part. I don't know much about Randle, but he is bigger than Williams so he might have a bit more upside. I'll withhold judgement till I watch him play. I was never that enamored with Smart and was glad when he pulled out because I didn't want the Jazz to draft him. It looks nice in the first five or so picks, but afterward there seems to be a rather dramatic drop-off in talent. Of course, that could all change after watching these kids in college.

[Catchall]

Archie Goodwin, Glen Rice Jr., Jamal Franklin, Gorgui Dieng, Tim Hardaway Jr., Ricky Ledo, Nate Wolters, Tony Mitchell.....and a bunch of other prospects are better than Jimmer.

If the Jazz want to trade 14 + 21 to get to 7, so be it, but adding Jimmer is nothing more than agreeing to take back a bad contract to sweeten the deal for Sacto.

[StocktonShorts]

I think Jimmer in Utah is a bad, bad idea. This isn't like the Jazz signing Andy Toolson to be their 12th man or Rafa Araujo to be the designated thug. Local fans still overrate him and he'd be a huge distraction and a burden to the coaching staff. The front office would be doing Ty and co. a huge disservice by bringing him in.

Take away Jimmer's celebrity status in Utah and it's still a bad idea. I'd much rather have Nate Wolters than Jimmer.

[SoCalJazzFan]

If all that the Jazz need to do to get the top #7 pick is to give up the #14 and #21 and take on Jimmer's expiring, cheap contract who wouldn't do it? Seriously?

At #7 you're looking at most mock drafts at players like Burke, Oladipo, McCollum and Zeller. Burke had college stats that no one since Magic Johnson has had. Oladipo's floor is described as being better than Tony Allen. McCollum is a question mark, but could be the next Lillard-type guard, worst case Randy Foye. I'm not a huge Zeller fan, but he is pretty athletic and would make a great backup big or a good big to stretch the floor. With those players potentially at #7 you have at a minimum a solid backup, perhaps 6th man caliber, and possibly a starter or an outside chance of an All Star. Much less likely later in the draft.

Quite frankly, if this draft is as lacking in talent as has been repeatedly reported, then you can probably find d-leaguers and free agent backups who are on par with most of the players in this draft, so why covet two of these for the potential of a higher pick?

[Winglish]

Well, the word out of Sacramento is that they have not talked to anyone about Jimmer Fredette. As we all know, this means they engaged in serious discussions with the Utah Jazz, who kill any deal immediately upon the slightest information leak. Paranoia wins again.

[kebutah]

If all that the Jazz need to do to get the top #7 pick is to give up the #14 and #21 and take on Jimmer's expiring, cheap contract who wouldn't do it? Seriously?

At #7 you're looking at most mock drafts at players like Burke, Oladipo, McCollum and Zeller. Burke had college stats that no one since Magic Johnson has had. Oladipo's floor is described as being better than Tony Allen. McCollum is a question mark, but could be the next Lillard-type guard, worst case Randy Foye. I'm not a huge Zeller fan, but he is pretty athletic and would make a great backup big or a good big to stretch the floor. With those players potentially at #7 you have at a minimum a solid backup, perhaps 6th man caliber, and possibly a starter or an outside chance of an All Star. Much less likely later in the draft.

Quite frankly, if this draft is as lacking in talent as has been repeatedly reported, then you can probably find d-leaguers and free agent backups who are on par with most of the players in this draft, so why covet two of these for the potential of a higher pick?

This draft is not lacking in talent, just sure all star talent. Many of the mid to late first round players will develop into solid rotation players.

[dr0welf]

If Burke is available at 7 I would do this in a heart beat. If all else fails release Jimmer; it is not a huge contract to eat. If I can use our 2 picks and get either Burke or B Mac without taking on a massive contract, to me it is a no brainer. I doubt B Mac falls that far but Burke should be there. I think this is one of those if "certain player" is available we will do the trade.

[schneiderjazz]

I'm all for #7 and Jimmer for #14 and #21. We can get a good player at #7 and having Jimmer on the team would put fans in the ESA. Jazz management will be happy with the increased sales, fans will be happy and if everything goes horribly wrong (or right in that case) we end up with a very high draft pick and Corbin fired.

[finnegan]

In a heartbeat! Jazz could get Zeller with #7 and he looks like the real deal.