Official Speculation Thread (Pt. LVI - NBA Draft Edition)

[Skin]

Here's another thing that I think about...

Bledsoe in LAC for 2013-14 continues to put up similar numbers.

Bledsoe in ORL for 2013-14 puts up huge numbers.

It's way better for us to give him a new contract when he's a 2014 FA based off his current numbers in LAC than the numbers he would get with us and full playing time.

Well, we risk losing him to another team.

Also, The manangement would have to work out an extension for Bledsoe this summer, based on his numbers with the Clipperss

Based on these rumors it doesn't seem like there is a big market for Bledsoe.

But your second statement is interesting. Do you think the Magic would work out a new contract for Bledsoe this summer based off last year's numbers?

I don't think there's any way in heck that Bledsoe or his agent would agree to that. He's gonna want a full season as starter to put up better numbers and get a bigger contract.

[rcklsscognition]

Apparently the Cavs want to "move down a couple of slots" for a 2014 lottery pick. lol. This Cleveland beat writer also says they should call Orlando and try and get a 2014 pick and the #2 for the #1 since Orlando loves Nerlens Noel. Even Bianchi isn't that bad.

This is why I say don't get your hopes up for Noel. GMs know exactly how rumors can turn against them. If Henny really wanted Noel, do you think it would leak out that badly?

Henny wants Victor. Get your hearts ready.

I can't do it. I dislike him. I think he might be a cousin of Afflalo. Completely irrational dislike for both those guys.

[Skin]

You know what's funny. This whole rumor about AA, Nicholson and a 1st for Bledsoe and Butler...

This is the first example of Doc's style as VP of Player Operations...

I think it wreaks and could be troubling for the Clippers franchise if every team that deals with them has to put up with fake deals put out about their team.

[Ducklett]

Worst shooting team picks worst shooting SG in the draft in Oladipo? I just can't see that happening unless we trade for more picks and pick shooters.

Let me phrase it this way: What does Oladipo bring that playing Harkless at SG doesn't already bring?

[rcklsscognition]

Jameer shot chart vs. Bledsoe shot chart 2012-2013 season.

780 shots, 169 at rim and 84 3-10 feet (32% of shots in or near paint) vs 568 shots, 238 at rim and 103 3-10 feet (60% of shots in or near paint.

[fendilim]

Here's another thing that I think about...

Bledsoe in LAC for 2013-14 continues to put up similar numbers.

Bledsoe in ORL for 2013-14 puts up huge numbers.

It's way better for us to give him a new contract when he's a 2014 FA based off his current numbers in LAC than the numbers he would get with us and full playing time.

Well, we risk losing him to another team.

Also, The manangement would have to work out an extension for Bledsoe this summer, based on his numbers with the Clipperss

Based on these rumors it doesn't seem like there is a big market for Bledsoe.

But your second statement is interesting. Do you think the Magic would work out a new contract for Bledsoe this summer based off last year's numbers?

I don't think there's any way in heck that Bledsoe or his agent would agree to that. He's gonna want a full season as starter to put up better numbers and get a bigger contract.

Henny knows what he's getting in Bledsoe, if we indeed will trade for him. I'm sure if he find their price reasonable, they would agree to something.

Any player would like to get some security in case they suffer anything next year, like I said, as long as its reasonable, I don't see both parties not try to work something out.

[MagicFan32]

Nicholson and Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler i'd do, adding a first? not a fan unless it's heavily protected.
if Nicholson is indeed included, and Noel is picked first, i think i would do the twolves deal of 9/26/Williams for 2 but they have to take BBD(or Butler?)

Magic pick KCP/Snell/McCollum/Shabazz/other 9th and a big or a euro 26th.

[fendilim]

Nicholson and Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler i'd do, adding a first? not a fan unless it's heavily protected.
if Nicholson is indeed included, and Noel is picked first, i think i would do the twolves deal of 9/26/Williams for 2 but they have to take BBD(or Butler?)

Magic pick KCP/Snell/McCollum/Shabazz/other 9th and a big or a euro 26th.

I don't see them doing it for BBD, I do think Minny would prefer AA.

[londoncollin]

Worst shooting team picks worst shooting SG in the draft in Oladipo? I just can't see that happening unless we trade for more picks and pick shooters.

Let me phrase it this way: What does Oladipo bring that playing Harkless at SG doesn't already bring?

A guy playing in position instead of out of position.

[fendilim]

^^ High motor

[bigmoe1952]

My take on Clippers/Magic. A few weeks ago Henny offer Afflalo for Bledsoe and Butler straight up. Clippers were in the Docalypse. Henny said, you've got until draft night to get back to me, or July 1st, or whatever. So Clippers leak they've got this great deal with Orlando to see if some other team would step in and try to get Bledsoe with a better offer. If not, we'll have our original deal either draft night or July 1.

i'd say it's a "you've got until draft night" offer. a move like that could seriously impact who we target. if we've got Bledsoe, then we can take Noel/Bmac with the pick. if we don't have Bledsoe, our next game plan might involve taking or trading down for Burke or McCollum?

If we trade down, I would like to snag McCollum.

[bigmoe1952]

If we trade AA, Nicholson, AND a first round pick for Bledsoe, then I suspect Otis Smith is running things behind the scenes. I just do not see any way that Henny does that deal.

[MagicFan32]

Maybe any bledsoe trade depends on if Noel is available. there is no denying those to present an immense athletic upgrade my problem is giving the clippers a first.

If Noel is at 2 you have to take him, and hopefully get another first and pick up a 2 guard

i don't think henny will overpay for bledsoe unless the analytics really like him

[MagicFan32]

Why do we need Bledsoe now? Why can't we wait till next summer and keep all of our assets?

because if he blows up, there is virtually no chance of getting him, while PG remains a giant problem, in regards to our future

[rcklsscognition]

So we don't have to choose between Smart and Wiggins in the next draft???

[Stoffel]

Is there a chance to trade AA for a Top-10-Pick?

Then I would pick with #2 Oladipo and with #9 Zeller, when Noel is not available.
So the teammates are together

[orlando1214]

Is there a chance to trade AA for a Top-10-Pick?

Then I would pick with #2 Oladipo and with #9 Zeller, when Noel is not available.
So the teammates are together

I think it will be pretty difficult to get another top-10 pick. The Timberwolves seem to be active in trade talks, but they seem to want to move up so they can get Oladipo. So doubt they would trade the #9 for AA.

I've been watching a lot of videos on Zeller though since hearing that he had a second workout with the Magic. I could definitely see why the Magic might be intrigued by him. He really is a very versatile and athletic big man, you almost forget he's 7 foot while watching him. I still don't think he's worth the #2 pick, but if the Magic trade down or get another early 1st round pick somehow, I definitely would not be disappoint if the Magic picked him.

[BelgianMagic]

To me, the Bledsoe trade as reported right now doesn't make a lot of sense.

Henny wants to rebuild through the draft & have a young core going forward. Why would he trade the first player he drafted AND a future pick along with Afflalo? I don't care how protected the pick is, this team is gonna be needing all of its first round picks the coming years so it doesn't make a lot of sense to me. Anything can happen to this team regarding the future pick, so we possibly could've traded a good player and great pick for Bledsoe. Is he gonna be worth it at that point? Huge risk ..

I'm a huge Bledsoe fan, probably one of the biggest on the board here, but he's not worth Afflalo AND Nicholson AND a future 1st. That's why I think these reports are only coming from the Clippers' side, this deal as reported doesn't look like a deal Henny would make. If Henny thinks Bledsoe's gonna be a star, I can live with giving up Nicholson, but not Nicholson AND a future 1st, that's just too much IMO.

[Ducklett]

Worst shooting team picks worst shooting SG in the draft in Oladipo? I just can't see that happening unless we trade for more picks and pick shooters.

Let me phrase it this way: What does Oladipo bring that playing Harkless at SG doesn't already bring?

A guy playing in position instead of out of position.

So you will use our #2 to draft a player who is almost identical to Harkless cause he has played the position a bit longer? Alright, where do I sign to get you as our GM?

[NEM]

Why do we need Bledsoe now? Why can't we wait till next summer and keep all of our assets?

because if he blows up, there is virtually no chance of getting him, while PG remains a giant problem, in regards to our future

If he blows up (highly unlikely), then you don't offer him a contract, you move on to the next one. Point guard might be one of the easiest positions to fill today. Just think, this year there are Burke, mcw, McCollum, Schroeder, Larkin... Next year there are hill, Harrison, smart at the very least. In free agency there are collison, and Teague... Via trade there are Teague, wroten, Reggie Jackson... All could be had for the right price, and I'm not sure Bledsoe is better than any of those. So why overpay when we have a point guard we are paying 8 million for another season? There is absolutely no need for it

Oh and the difference between oladipo and moe at the 2 is that dipo is an actual two, while moe barely has skills to be an effective 3. Oladipo also has a nonstop motor, a trait I have yet to see harkless show us he has... And I'm not even a fan of oladipo, and not a moe hater either