Official Off-Season Trade/Rumor Thread

Post #201 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:35 am

hate Piers Morgan... why is he on there? I don't think Piers even watches basketball lmao, it's mostly politic crap I thought on there.

I'll catch up on the youtube vids of Bosh's night

Wade will be on Kimmel, I don't know when though.

Sonny Carson · Post #202 » by **Sonny Carson** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:49 am

Wade doesnt need to be a 3 point shooter.

But he needs to become a catch and shoot player. There were many times LeBron gave Wade a great pass only for Wade to dribble two or three times and then shoot the jumper.

I think thats what Pat means.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #203 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:05 am

Mars wrote:While on with Le Batard today, Riley said Wade will get down to 212 pounds for next season.

that would be awesome. 225 is to much.

John Thomas · Post #204 » by **John Thomas** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:15 am

Damn Pat Riley still running the show.
No but honestly I think if Pat hangs it up Lebron will have less reason to stay here

WD · Post #205 » by WD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:24 am

Bosh in 2 min on Conan -TBS

WD · Post #206 » by WD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:25 am

John Thomas wrote:Damn Pat Riley still running the show.
No but honestly I think if Pat hangs it up Lebron will have less reason to stay here

"Why would anybody want to get off this train?" Riley said, adding he plans to stay in his current position, "as long as Micky will have me."

WD · Post #207 » by WD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:36 am

WD wrote:Bosh in 2 min on Conan -TBS

Chris Bosh looks smaller than last year, or is it just my TV?

LoveMyHeat · Post #208 » by **LoveMyHeat** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:02 am

John Thomas wrote:Damn Pat Riley still running the show.
No but honestly I think if Pat hangs it up Lebron will have less reason to stay here

Which is why I foresee Pat being here throughout the Big 3 era.

Biscayne Beast · Post #209 » by **Biscayne Beast** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:00 pm

LaMarcus Aldridge wants a trade, If they offered LA and #10 for Bosh would you guys consider taking it?

John Thomas · Post #210 » by **John Thomas** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:18 pm

The Trademaker wrote:LaMarcus Aldridge wants a trade, If they offered LA and #10 for Bosh would you guys consider taking it?

Nope. LMA is poorer on D, isnt really an upgrade rebounding wise and isn't as good a scorer as Bosh. His numbers would dip SIGNIFICANTLY here in Miami, and he's never even averaged 22ppg in his career.
Now if there was a wealth of centers in this draft that would be surefire starters, then yeh id do it but all the centers are projects.

DWadeno3 · Post #211 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 1:18 pm

Heat_Fan_87 wrote:I couldn't imagine wade having a good 3pt shot. Wade needs to start modeling his game after ray allen. When lebron is on the bench, wade can have fun, but with bron on the court, i would love to see wade play like allen, move a lot off the ball, and work with ray all summer on the 3pt shot. I would like to see at least 37%.

He also needs to lose like 10 pounds.

Why don't we name him Dwyane Allen since you wanted him to play like Tony and now like Ray Allen?

Wade is far above both of these guys and the reason we dominated during the streak was because Wade was healthy and playing his game, which also meant controlling the ball at times when LeBron is on the court. Losing weight will most likely help him to avoid knee issues and stay healthy, and that's the only concern there is for him going forward. When he's healthy, his jumper is there, his postgame is there, his playmaking is there, his defense is there and we're by far the best team in the league.

Post #212 » by **heat4life** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:01 pm

The Trademaker wrote:LaMarcus Aldridge wants a trade, If they offered LA and #10 for Bosh would you guys consider taking it?

We need to stop trying to trade Chris Bosh for whatever is available out there. LeBron James signed up to form the Big 3 with Wade AND Bosh. You really think we have a shot at keeping him if we trade Bosh?

Loyalty is our best chance at keeping this championship core together. LeBron digs that the Heat organization is about loyalty. Let's stop trying to trade Bosh unless buddies Kevin Durant or Chris Paul are coming back in return..

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #213 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:30 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
Heat_Fan_87 wrote:I couldn't imagine wade having a good 3pt shot. Wade needs to start modeling his game after ray allen. When lebron is on the bench, wade can have fun, but with bron on the court, i would love to see wade play like allen, move a lot off the ball, and work with ray all summer on the 3pt shot. I would like to see at least 37%.

He also needs to lose like 10 pounds.

Why don't we name him Dwyane Allen since you wanted him to play like Tony and now like Ray Allen?

Wade is far above both of these guys and the reason we dominated during the streak was because Wade was healthy and playing his game, which also meant controlling the ball at times when LeBron is on the court. Losing weight will most likely help him to avoid knee issues and stay healthy, and that's the only concern there is for him going forward. When he's healthy, his jumper is there, his postgame is there, his playmaking is there, his defense is there and we're by far the best team in the league.

I wanted him to play like tony allen? lol...where?

WD · Post #214 » by WD » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:41 pm

heat4life wrote:
The Trademaker wrote:LaMarcus Aldridge wants a trade, If they offered LA and #10 for Bosh would you guys consider taking it?

We need to stop trying to trade Chris Bosh for whatever is available out there. LeBron James signed up to form the Big 3 with Wade AND Bosh. You really think we have a shot at keeping him if we trade Bosh?

Loyalty is our best chance at keeping this championship core together. LeBron digs that the Heat organization is about loyalty. Let's stop trying to trade Bosh unless buddies Kevin Durant or Chris Paul are coming back in return..

It's maddening......THE BIG 3 will only improve...cannot believe we are having TRADE BOSH comments...STILL - we won, we didn't lose....greed, selfishness and impatience seams to be the theme. Everyone wants a FANTASY TEAM on the court......

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #215 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:42 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:When he's healthy, his jumper is there,

Eh... even when healthy, his jumper has been horribly inconsistent the last few years. He made solid linear progression with it from his rookie season to 06, then improved even more after his injuries in 09, but its been far too up and down since then.

I think when Riley says he needs to reinvent himself, he's talking about improving his midrange game. I'd love to see his midrange shot become as consistent as a Rip Hamilton, and I think Wade can do that if he works on it.

Even if he doesn't provide 3-point spacing, being a knockdown midrange shooter like a Rip, or Sam Cassell, still basically provides a form of spacing for the offense. In these playoffs, I can recall a few times where LeBron pitched the ball out to Wade on a drive where Wade was spotted up about 18 feet out on the baseline, kind of like UD, except Wade wasn't able to make that shot. That's a shot that if he can be automatic with, can make us a lot tougher to defend.

Post #216 » by **DefenseWins** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:44 pm

Welp, stop all the trade stuff with Bosh, he isn't moving right now. Riley wants to keep this core. If we lost, it would have been totally different lol.

I am nervous for July 1st, 2014 if we lose...

Enjoy what we have now.

Heat_Fan_87 · Post #217 » by **Heat_Fan_87** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 2:53 pm

DefenseWins wrote:Welp, stop all the trade stuff with Bosh, he isn't moving right now. Riley wants to keep this core. If we lost, it would have been totally different lol.

I am nervous for July 1st, 2014 if we lose...

Enjoy what we have now.

Yea, if we don't win next season, July 1st, 2014 is going to be real interesting and nerve wracking.
But i am very confident we win again next year. Health is the most important thing.

Altered_Beast · Post #218 » by **Altered_Beast** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:13 pm

only idiots keep bringing up bosh as someone we will trade, unless its for howard straight up or a team wants to get fleeced for their best player plus a first round pick, bosh isnt leaving miami until at least summer of 2014 (and thats if we dont three peat)

bosh is one of the main reasons we are champions again. sure he had a down year scoring wise but people forget how much this guy has had to adjust his game to fit our system (which to me is still a work in progress). for 7 seasons he was the main man on his team. he got the most shots and opportunities in toronto and now he is relegated to camping around the perimeter sometimes even being the 4th option on offense.

if we can get a guy like oden and resign the bird then we can move bosh back to his natural 4 spot and hell have a much better season in 2013-2014. you can write that one down.

DWadeno3 · Post #219 » by **DWadeno3** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:20 pm

Tim_Hardawayy wrote:
DWadeno3 wrote:When he's healthy, his jumper is there,

Eh... even when healthy, his jumper has been horribly inconsistent the last few years. He made solid linear progression with it from his rookie season to 06, then improved even more after his injuries in 09, but its been far too up and down since then.

I think when Riley says he needs to reinvent himself, he's talking about improving his midrange game. I'd love to see his midrange shot become as consistent as a Rip Hamilton, and I think Wade can do that if he works on it.

Even if he doesn't provide 3-point spacing, being a knockdown midrange shooter like a Rip, or Sam Cassell, still basically provides a form of spacing for the offense. In these playoffs, I can recall a few times where LeBron pitched the ball out to Wade on a drive where Wade was spotted up about 18 feet out on the baseline, kind of like UD, except Wade wasn't able to make that shot. That's a shot that if he can be automatic with, can make us a lot tougher to defend.

I was mainly referring to this season, the year in which he hired a shooting coach. I agree that it went down hill in 09/10 and 10/11, but this year it looked good and was mainly held back by injury issues. It's no secret that in the games Wade looked good physically, his jump shot was there for him too.

Tim_Hardawayy · Post #220 » by **Tim_Hardawayy** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 3:44 pm

DWadeno3 wrote:
I was mainly referring to this season, the year in which he hired a shooting coach. I agree that it went down hill in 09/10 and 10/11, but this year it looked good and was mainly held back by injury issues. It's no secret that in the games Wade looked good physically, his jump shot was there for him too.

Improved I guess, but it still looked very inconsistent to me, and the same bad habits from previous years continued (overuse of the pump fake, fading when he doesn't need to). Also, injury or not, his mechanics on his jumper looked awful for much of the postseason.

Even his free throw shooting was wildly erratic, and that is something you can't really blame on injury.