According to Mike McGraw, Aldridge wants the Bulls

Former Roy · Post #1421 » by **Former Roy** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 pm

cubsfan23 wrote:would: boozer, bobcats pick, mirotic, future first be possible? Id rather not trade deng leaving another weakness in the starting 5. Rose/Butler/Deng/Aldridge/Noah would be unreal. Not sure trading deng and something else for aldridge would be a step up. I'd rather just see how this group can do next year then.

Only 1 ballhandler on the floor is a weakness in that starting 5 as well.

chadrucf · Post #1422 » by **chadrucf** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 pm

LobosJordan wrote:I have the position of not trading Rose and Joakim Noah. I am also of the position that the emergence of Jimmy Butler and Deng's contract situation makes him the likeliest person to be traded. I also believe Taj Gibson is overpayed and can be a part of a deal. Hardly pessimistic. And hardly trading away our core.

Those are reasonable. But I don't advocate blowing it up, unless there is a great offer out there. No lateral moves for me.

KiLleRInStiNcT7 · Post #1423 » by **KiLleRInStiNcT7** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:57 pm

How can Deng and Taj plus a pick not be enticing to people?

chadrucf · Post #1424 » by **chadrucf** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:59 pm

BuffaloBull wrote:
jmajew wrote:
Tenchi Ryu wrote:What we want: Deng Rip and some extra stuff

What we don't want: Anything involving Noah or Rose

Most realistic trade that benefits both teams: Jimmy, Taj, Mirotic rights, Charlotte Pick, #20, Rip

Mirotic has to be traded in any deal for Aldridge. Also Mirotic's value drops for us if we have Aldridge as well.

Not at all. Mirotic then becomes a killer 6th man off of the bench.

Thibs could go Offense/Offense for short stretches as well with LMA at the 5 and Mirotic at the 4. Imagine how hard it will be to guard derrick when potentially all 4 guys on the floor with him are legit shooters.

I agree. He would be in a Kukoc role.

And hopefully he's even close to as good.

Tenchi Ryu · Post #1425 » by **Tenchi Ryu** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:59 pm

Red-Bulls83 wrote:
Even James Harden or D Howard get that kind of haul.

LMA is still a all-star, and not exactly NOT in the realm of these players. It's one thing talking about a solid role-player. But this is a franchise player we are talking about taking. Got to spend in order to get him, otherwise Portland hangs up the phone on us

LobosJordan · Post #1426 » by **LobosJordan** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 4:59 pm

chadrucf wrote:
LobosJordan wrote:I have the position of not trading Rose and Joakim Noah. I am also of the position that the emergence of Jimmy Butler and Deng's contract situation makes him the likeliest person to be traded. I also believe Taj Gibson is overpayed and can be a part of a deal. Hardly pessimistic. And hardly trading away our core.

Those are reasonable. But I don't advocate blowing it up, unless there is a great offer out there. No lateral moves for me.

BLowing it up would be giving away Deng and Taj for nothing. Even if you don't like Lamarcus Aldridge, or think he sucks. You can't sit here and say we gave up those two players for nothing. Lamarcus Aldridge isn't nothing. And moving players for him isn't blowing up anything.

Jimmy Forums · Post #1427 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:01 pm

Smart Bulls Fan Guide to Logic:

LobosJordan wrote:I have the position of not trading Rose and Joakim Noah. I am also of the position that the emergence of Jimmy Butler and Deng's contract situation makes him the likeliest person to be traded. I also believe Taj Gibson is overpayed and can be a part of a deal. Hardly pessimistic. And hardly trading away our core.

ChiefILL53 · Post #1428 » by **ChiefILL53** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:01 pm

https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/ ... 2273574913

looks like KG and Pierce are headed to brooklyn, which prolly knocks them outta contention to be our 3rd trade partner

chadrucf · Post #1429 » by **chadrucf** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:01 pm

LobosJordan wrote:
chadrucf wrote:
LobosJordan wrote:I have the position of not trading Rose and Joakim Noah. I am also of the position that the emergence of Jimmy Butler and Deng's contract situation makes him the likeliest person to be traded. I also believe Taj Gibson is overpayed and can be a part of a deal. Hardly pessimistic. And hardly trading away our core.

Those are reasonable. But I don't advocate blowing it up, unless there is a great offer out there. No lateral moves for me.

BLowing it up would be giving away Deng and Taj for nothing. Even if you don't like Lamarcus Aldridge, or think he sucks. You can't sit here and say we gave up those two players for nothing. Lamarcus Aldridge isn't nothing. And moving players for him isn't blowing up anything.

I agree. I'd be slightly in favor of Deng/Gibson/Cha Pick for Aldridge. But I wouldn't consider it a bad offseason to bring back this group.

chadrucf · Post #1430 » by **chadrucf** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:03 pm

ChiefILL53 wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/350297402273574913

looks like KG and Pierce are headed to brooklyn, which prolly knocks them outta contention to be our 3rd trade partner

Woah thats a huge deal. Who is going back to Boston?

TIKIbull · Post #1431 » by **TIKIbull** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:03 pm

Tenchi Ryu wrote:What we want: Deng Rip and some extra stuff

What we don't want: Anything involving Noah or Rose

Most realistic trade that benefits both teams: Jimmy, Taj, Mirotic rights, Charlotte Pick, #20, Rip

Option 3 is WAY too much for LMA, just on JB alone.

I'm sorry, but to me, JB is as important as Noah. I don't care what anyone says.

Former Roy · Post #1432 » by **Former Roy** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:03 pm

Holy **** their gonna be good....

That's alot of weapons...

G Williams
G Johnson
F Pierce
F Garnett
C Lopez

bullsnewdynasty · Post #1433 » by **bullsnewdynasty** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:03 pm

ChiefILL53 wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/350297402273574913

looks like KG and Pierce are headed to brooklyn, which prolly knocks them outta contention to be our 3rd trade partner

How the heck does Brooklyn have the trade assets for those guys but we don't?

dice · Post #1434 » by **dice** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:04 pm

Tenchi Ryu wrote:Got to pay to play....no way we get to keep what we want and get what we want at the same time.

this isn't the illinois lottery. this is running a basketball team. giving up most of our quality assets for LMA is taking the super long-shot that all our numbers come up. i'll save my money, thank you very much

DRoseCantStop · Post #1435 » by **DRoseCantStop** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:05 pm

bullsnewdynasty wrote:
ChiefILL53 wrote:https://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/status/350297402273574913

looks like KG and Pierce are headed to brooklyn, which prolly knocks them outta contention to be our 3rd trade partner

How the heck does Brooklyn have the trade assets for those guys but we don't?

It pisses me off....

tensai · Post #1436 » by **tensai** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:05 pm

Vinski wrote:
jmajew wrote:
Tenchi Ryu wrote:What we want: Deng Rip and some extra stuff

What we don't want: Anything involving Noah or Rose

Most realistic trade that benefits both teams: Jimmy, Taj, Mirotic rights, Charlotte Pick, #20, Rip

Mirotic has to be traded in any deal for Aldridge. Also Mirotic's value drops for us if we have Aldridge as well.

People need to remember that Mirotic said he is uninterested in the NBA unless he is playing for the Bulls or LA. He will not come over if he is not coming to one of those teams.

That's not our problem. :wink:

nitetrain8603 · Post #1437 » by **nitetrain8603** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:05 pm

I'm interested to know, if people don't want LMA, who do they exactly plan on acquiring that would fit their requirements to trade everyone to be rumored in the trade, specifically Taj, Deng, Cha's pick, our picks, etc. And please save the "well, things change, so someone might become available". LMA is a someone. You have to pounce at the opp to get him, especially with Flip being hellbent on keeping Love in Minny.

I WANT NAMES

Jimmy Forums · Post #1438 » by **Jimmy Forums** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:05 pm

We're gonna send out Taj, Deng, Rip, #49, #20, and 2 future 1st rounders...

..and bring in LaMarcus Aldridge, Thomas Robinson, and hopefully another draft pick, likely 10 or 19.

The Boozer amnesty cannot be overlooked with this. LMA and Robinson solidifies our PF spot for at least 3 years. We've got holes elsewhere. With Boozer's freed up space, we can welcome back Nate, not necessarily have to take the best backup C who will take the minimum, and then have a considerable amount of space left for a scorer at the 2. If JR Smith is in the $4 million range, we've gotta do that.

TheSuzerain · Post #1439 » by **TheSuzerain** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:05 pm

Could a 3 man rotation of Noah, Aldridge, and Mirotic work? With some defensive/rebounding big at backup center picking up spot minues.

Asking a lot of Noah, but I feel like Aldridge has the physical capabilities to succeed in Thibs defense.

And the offense would be nasty.

nitetrain8603 · Post #1440 » by **nitetrain8603** » Thu Jun 27, 2013 5:06 pm

tensai wrote:
Vinski wrote:
jmajew wrote:
Mirotic has to be traded in any deal for Aldridge. Also Mirotic's value drops for us if we have Aldridge as well.

People need to remember that Mirotic said he is uninterested in the NBA unless he is playing for the Bulls or LA. He will not come over if he is not coming to one of those teams.

That's not our problem.

It is, considering he won't report unless he's with the Bulls or LA.