KG and Pierce to Brooklyn?

[canman1971]

Haha. Rumors like this happen every year. Less than 1% chance this goes down, and I'm being generous. I swear the media just does this to get readers/followers. Probably get the ideas from RealGM boards and claim it as a source. Technically it's not a lie.

[PetroNet]

But the Nets would only be able to take on one. And I'd rather have Lee than Wallace (younger, cheaper, can shoot.)

Dumping Terry would be nice, but ditching 2 years/10 mil doesn't take much of the sting out of 3 years/$30 mil.

An ugly deal.

nets could take both signing and trading bogans to a 1 year 4m deal and including him

How? KG/Pierce/JT/Lee combine to make 38 mil. You need 30+ mil in outgoing salaries to match that.

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n8ytwvk

used mirza in place of a resigned bogans

[DorfonCeltics]

If they are willing, I think we can actually maximize our return by dealing Pierce and KG to different teams.

This deal is simply horrible. I'm just going to have to have faith that Ainge wouldn't want any part of that Wallace deal in a rebuild. It's pretty much the opposite of what we need and a few late 1sts don't make it worth it.

We aren't rebuilding we are retooling with assets. We will more than likely be going the Denver Nuggest route but with better players. Rondo is better than Lawson and Green is better than Gallinari. I full expect for the C's to be a playoff team next year in a weak Eastern conference.

[PetroNet]

If they are willing, I think we can actually maximize our return by dealing Pierce and KG to different teams.

of course you could.

the issue is, will garnett accept a trade somewhere if pierce isnt coming with him? im not sure.

[Slax]

Guys pierce and Kg are 36 and 37 respectively . Stop expecting for other teams to give us they entire give us they entire good prospects and take on both lee and terry bad contracts. That's not happening. We are collecting assets that's what we are doing. I don't want josh smith here unless Dwight is coming with him.

Very few here are asking for teams to give us all their good prospects and take Lee and Terry and give us draft picks. All we're asking is not to take back Gerald Wallace's bad contract when we trade Pierce and KG for a couple first round picks. Nobody needs to take on our bad contracts or give us Brook Lopez for me to think we got a reasonable deal; I just don't want us to take their bad contracts in exchange for giving them two high quality veteran starters. It's not as if the Nets are doing us a favor by taking Pierce and KG off our hands. KG was an all star last season, and Pierce was an all star two seasons ago. They are genuinely good players and we shouldn't have to take back a horrendous contract to avail ourselves of them just to accumulate a few late first rounders.

Also, why are you resistant to Josh Smith coming but welcome Gerald Wallace with open arms? Josh Smith will probably only earn a few million more per year than Gerald Wallace, and he is three years younger and enormously better.

[Kefa461]

The C's aren't stupid traders.....they know what they are doing........relax people.....

[tfmiii]

I hope it's Terry going. Lee is only 20 something he can improve with a full 82 games on a rebuilding team. His deal is longer but there's also a chance he becomes an asset while JET would be nothing due to age. Crazy deal though..major blockbuster trade. I absolutely hate how we will help Brooklyn get rid of that hideous Wallace contract and be stuck with it for 4 years. What the hell is Ainge thinking on this one? I call Brooklyn winning the east if this goes down. Garnett and Lopez will be tough to handle. Pierce, Johnson and Dwill is straight up SICK.

i'd rather get rid of Lee, he is 28 iirc, extra year on deal, not a proven vet sniper, would be harder to move imho... plus his play from last year just left me feeling he puts up empty stats

[Gant]

I'm just reading all this for the first time- I've been working.

Can someone please summarize this rumor for a hapless late arrival? How many picks are involved?

Thank you.

Basic framework of the deal is that the Celtics would trade Pierce and KG for Humphries' expiring contract, Gerald Wallace (who has a three-year $30 million contract), Tomike Shengelia, and three future first round picks.

Thanks. Well now...

If the trade is done before the draft the picks would have to be nonconsecutive years. So it would either be 2013, 2015, and 2107; or 2014, 2016, and 2018.

If trade is done right after the draft, and the Nets choose for the Celtics tonight (Ledo?), then it could be 2013, 2014, and 2016.

If the far-off picks are unprotected, this could be a very good deal. Pierce and KG will be gone by then and the Nets will revert to being the Nets. Unprotected picks can be gold.

Also it means some tankness might be order for a season.

[sully00]

this trade is a nightmare. Nothing about is good. Even if they get Wiggins next year you still have Wallace for 2 more years who plays the same freakin position has Wiggins/Parker and a guy we already have in Green. I hate it. Nothing about this deal is good. late first round picks spread out over 5 years? ewww.

The expiring deal of Hump is simply offset by the garbage deal that Wallace has. Brooklyn HANDCUFFED themselves with the Wallace deal and EVERYONE across the league knew it the moment he signed the contract. Now Ainge wants to bail those bums out? DON'T DO IT. I can stand to see PP/KG return to the Garden once for a tribute video and standing ovation. I CANNOT deal with seeing them all season long

I don't think you are appreciating how limited Ainge's options really are. Wallace could easily return to form of a year ago and be a trade asset at the deadline or in the offseason.

[chum]

If they are willing, I think we can actually maximize our return by dealing Pierce and KG to different teams.

This deal is simply horrible. I'm just going to have to have faith that Ainge wouldn't want any part of that Wallace deal in a rebuild. It's pretty much the opposite of what we need and a few late 1sts don't make it worth it.

We aren't rebuilding we are retooling with assets. We will more than likely be going the Denver Nuggest route but with better players. Rondo is better than Lawson and Green is better than Gallinari. I full expect for the C's to be a playoff team next year in a weak Eastern conference.

The East won't be weak if this deal happens. Nets would be serious title contenders. Bulls will be getting Rose back as well.

[Crownontherocks]

NBA source confirms Celtics-Nets talks and also adds #celtics are in talks with multiple clubs about deals

Gwash

[pfm]

We aren't rebuilding we are retooling with assets. We will more than likely be going the Denver Nuggest route but with better players. Rondo is better than Lawson and Green is better than Gallinari. I full expect for the C's to be a playoff team next year in a weak Eastern conference.

It doesn't matter which route we are going down. Either way we are going to want cap flexibility, which will allow us to facilitate a much greater array of deals. Wallace's deal essentially kills that flexibility for a guy who is old and isn't that good.

[Elrod is Back]

I'd do KG and Bass for Kris Humphries and an unprotected 2016 no. 1 draft choice.

We dump a salary and get a pick.

the trade works by ESPN trade checker

[Slartibartfast]

http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=n8ytwvk

used mirza in place of a resigned bogans

Trade machine's busted right now - it approved a Teletovic for Pierce and KG trade.

[Slartibartfast]

I'd do KG and Bass for Kris Humphries and an unprotected 2016 no. 1 draft choice.

We dump a salary and get a pick.

the trade works by ESPN trade checker

Use math, not the checker. It's busted right now.

[Zaschrona]

ESPN trade machine doesn't work properly.. Every impossible trade works.. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=m23utus

[jfs1000d]

Guys pierce and Kg are 36 and 37 respectively . Stop expecting for other teams to give us they entire give us they entire good prospects and take on both lee and terry bad contracts. That's not happening. We are collecting assets that's what we are doing. I don't want josh smith here unless Dwight is coming with him.

Lastly petronet has been respectfully here and is engaging in actually basketball debate so I don't get why some people are attacking him.

We don't have to take salary for them.

People get some bent out of shape. Celtics souldn't have to take a terrible contract to get rid of those guys.

[pac213up]

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[Afam]

Guys pierce and Kg are 36 and 37 respectively . Stop expecting for other teams to give us they entire give us they entire good prospects and take on both lee and terry bad contracts. That's not happening. We are collecting assets that's what we are doing. I don't want josh smith here unless Dwight is coming with him.

Very few here are asking for teams to give us all their good prospects and take Lee and Terry and give us draft picks. All we're asking is not to take back Gerald Wallace's bad contract when we trade Pierce and KG for a couple first round picks. Nobody needs to take on our bad contracts or give us Brook Lopez for me to think we got a reasonable deal; I just don't want us to take their bad contracts in exchange for giving them two high quality veteran starters. It's not as if the Nets are doing us a favor by taking Pierce and KG off our hands. KG was an all star last season, and Pierce was an all star two seasons ago. They are genuinely good players and we shouldn't have to take back a horrendous contract to avail ourselves of them just to accumulate a few late first rounders.

Also, why are you resistant to Josh Smith coming but welcome Gerald Wallace with open arms? Josh Smith will probably only earn a few million more per year than Gerald Wallace, and he is three years younger and enormously better.

I don't want Wallace here at all so I don't why you would assume that. Also Im not in favor of getting josh smith. I was in favor of trading for josh smith to pair him up with pierce and Kg and just retool but since we are rebuilding I don't want that. It makes no sense. Lastly I was just saying for those that are saying that this is a bad deal to look more closely at it and let it all play out. Furthermore , we shouldn't expect to get too much for them. If we take out Wallace , I do this dead in a heartbeat. Anyways since almost everyone keeps on mentioning on every deal we are involved in that this is a bad contract, what constitutes a bad contract on your eyes.

[The_Ghost_of_JB]

ESPN trade machine doesn't work properly.. Every impossible trade works.. http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=m23utus

LOL!

PS I reject this trade. Randolph is going to be the white version of Shaq.