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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#161 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Trade 1 - Bobcats select Ben McLemore and trade Ben McLemore + Ben Gordon to the Pelicans for pick 6 and Eric Gordon

Trade 2 - Bobcats select Trey Burke and trade Burke and POR pick to the Utah Jazz for Kanter

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Eric Gordon
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bismack Biyombo
Enes Kanter


Trade one is awful and trade 2 is to much.

Trade 3 - take Burke for Jazz and trade him for Kanter and 14
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#162 » by Stun704 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 pm

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McLemore is a bonefish head case. Everyone watched him disappear in games. Jeff George had tons of talent but 0 between the ears.

Hes a headcase like drummond? McLemore isn't a headcase bro, he may not have a killer instinct, but we have Kemba for those type of situations


Great lets go ahead and draft a scared shell of a player who is only able to shoot and can't dribble. That sounds like a wonderful waste of a pick. Listen I am fine with taking a risk on him if Oladipo is gone but don't gamble if you won't have to. Take the better player with the higher floor right now and be thankful.

This draft isnt do or die. I rather go for a homerun then go for a double play. Oladipo has a higher floor but a lower ceiling which = future mediocrity.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#163 » by BlackOutBuzz » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:20 pm

Don't gamble? In this draft? **** it, take whoever they feel has the highest ceiling (not floor) and go for it. This draft doesn't look great, swing for the fences.

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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#165 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:22 pm

Stun704 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Hes a headcase like drummond? McLemore isn't a headcase bro, he may not have a killer instinct, but we have Kemba for those type of situations


Great lets go ahead and draft a scared shell of a player who is only able to shoot and can't dribble. That sounds like a wonderful waste of a pick. Listen I am fine with taking a risk on him if Oladipo is gone but don't gamble if you won't have to. Take the better player with the higher floor right now and be thankful.

This draft isnt do or die. I rather go for a homerun then go for a double play. Oladipo has a higher floor but a lower ceiling which = future mediocrity.


Floor of 7 ceiling of 9 is better than floor of 5 ceiling of 9.5
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#166 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:24 pm

jdm3 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Trade 1 - Bobcats select Ben McLemore and trade Ben McLemore + Ben Gordon to the Pelicans for pick 6 and Eric Gordon

Trade 2 - Bobcats select Trey Burke and trade Burke and POR pick to the Utah Jazz for Kanter

Kemba Walker
Eric Gordon
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bismack Biyombo
Enes Kanter


Trade one is awful and trade 2 is to much.

Trade 3 - take Burke for Jazz and trade him for Kanter and 14


Depends on how you feel about Eric Gordon. Cho says we need perimeter shooting in addition to a big so Eric Gordon + Kanter + pick 14 is a nice haul imo.

Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.
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Post#167 » by Stun704 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:25 pm

jdm3 wrote:
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Great lets go ahead and draft a scared shell of a player who is only able to shoot and can't dribble. That sounds like a wonderful waste of a pick. Listen I am fine with taking a risk on him if Oladipo is gone but don't gamble if you won't have to. Take the better player with the higher floor right now and be thankful.

This draft isnt do or die. I rather go for a homerun then go for a double play. Oladipo has a higher floor but a lower ceiling which = future mediocrity.


Floor of 7 ceiling of 9 is better than floor of 5 ceiling of 9.5

Oladipo has to rework his game

McLemore has to change his attitude at a young age, and improve his handle with the GOAT SG mentor with MJ.

who do you think has a better chance in realizing their potential?
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#168 » by Eoghan » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:25 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.

I'd pick Karasev if he's still there.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#169 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:26 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Trade 1 - Bobcats select Ben McLemore and trade Ben McLemore + Ben Gordon to the Pelicans for pick 6 and Eric Gordon

Trade 2 - Bobcats select Trey Burke and trade Burke and POR pick to the Utah Jazz for Kanter

Kemba Walker
Eric Gordon
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist
Bismack Biyombo
Enes Kanter


Trade one is awful and trade 2 is to much.

Trade 3 - take Burke for Jazz and trade him for Kanter and 14


Depends on how you feel about Eric Gordon. Cho says we need perimeter shooting in addition to a big so Eric Gordon + Kanter + pick 14 is a nice haul imo.

Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.

Right but you have to be on the floor to shoot. This is what makes Gordon and bad pickup. We could get a shooter at 14 like Bullock or Bazz even falls that far in some mocks.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#170 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:28 pm

BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.

I'd pick Karasev if he's still there.


What about trading it for Thomas Robinson

Kemba Walker/Sessions
Eric Gordon/Hendo
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Taylor
Bismack Biyombo/Robinson
Enes Kanter/Biyombo
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#171 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:28 pm

Stun704 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Stun704 wrote:This draft isnt do or die. I rather go for a homerun then go for a double play. Oladipo has a higher floor but a lower ceiling which = future mediocrity.


Floor of 7 ceiling of 9 is better than floor of 5 ceiling of 9.5

Oladipo has to rework his game

McLemore has to change his attitude at a young age, and improve his handle with the GOAT SG mentor with MJ.

who do you think has a better chance in realizing their potential?


To make them equal you draft Oladipo and teach him to shoot or draft McLemore teach him everything else and get him a shrink. I would trust Oladipo with Price more than McLemore with anyone. The head is the hardest thing to fix. Some people have an alpha personality some don't.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#172 » by Stun704 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:32 pm

jdm3 wrote:
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Floor of 7 ceiling of 9 is better than floor of 5 ceiling of 9.5

Oladipo has to rework his game

McLemore has to change his attitude at a young age, and improve his handle with the GOAT SG mentor with MJ.

who do you think has a better chance in realizing their potential?


To make them equal you draft Oladipo and teach him to shoot or draft McLemore teach him everything else and get him a shrink. I would trust Oladipo with Price more than McLemore with anyone. The head is the hardest thing to fix. Some people have an alpha personality some don't.

If you teach Oladipo to shoot he becomes a more athletic Raja Bell (O doesn't have great handles either)
If McLemore tightens up his handles under MJ's tutoalge hes a rich mans Ray Allen. McL doesn't need to be an alpha dog, this is Kembas team since hes the PG and has an alpha personaltiy
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#173 » by Eoghan » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:32 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.

I'd pick Karasev if he's still there.


What about trading it for Thomas Robinson

Kemba Walker/Sessions
Eric Gordon/Hendo
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Taylor
Bismack Biyombo/Robinson
Enes Kanter/Biyombo

Utah's 14 for Robinson? I'd be fine with that.
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#174 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:34 pm

Stun704 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Stun704 wrote:Oladipo has to rework his game

McLemore has to change his attitude at a young age, and improve his handle with the GOAT SG mentor with MJ.

who do you think has a better chance in realizing their potential?


To make them equal you draft Oladipo and teach him to shoot or draft McLemore teach him everything else and get him a shrink. I would trust Oladipo with Price more than McLemore with anyone. The head is the hardest thing to fix. Some people have an alpha personality some don't.

If you teach Oladipo to shoot he becomes a more athletic Raja Bell (O doesn't have great handles either)
If McLemore tightens up his handles under MJ's tutoalge hes a rich mans Ray Allen. McL doesn't need to be an alpha dog, this is Kembas team since hes the PG and has an alpha personaltiy


You teach Oladipo to shoot and spend less time with MJ tightening his handles and he is much closer to being a great player than Ben. Oladipo is closer to be a great player than Ben because he has less to do to get there in every facet but shooting than Ben. Oladipo is not perfect but he is better than Ben in everything but shooting.
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Post#175 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:36 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:
BrotherDave wrote:
MasterIchiro wrote:Just curious...

Who would you select with pick 14? Obviously Utah sees MCW long gone by then.

I'd pick Karasev if he's still there.


What about trading it for Thomas Robinson

Kemba Walker/Sessions
Eric Gordon/Hendo
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Taylor
Bismack Biyombo/Robinson
Enes Kanter/Biyombo


Kemba Walker/Sessions
Hendo
Michael Kidd-Gilchrist/Taylor
Bismack Biyombo/Robinson
Enes Kanter/Biyombo
IR - Eric Gordon getting 14 mill for doing nothing half the season
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#176 » by MasterIchiro » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:38 pm

You an MD? Eric Gordon is 24.
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Post#177 » by Stun704 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:47 pm

Any ESPN insider knows what bobcats player picked for us in ESPN's player mock draft and who they picked?
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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#178 » by Liver_Pooty » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:48 pm

Stun704 wrote:Any ESPN insider knows what bobcats player picked for us in ESPN's player mock draft and who they picked?


Kemba picked Bennett
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Post#179 » by mrknowitall215 » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:48 pm

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Re: The 2013 NBA Draft Night Thread 

Post#180 » by BeesWax » Thu Jun 27, 2013 9:49 pm

MasterIchiro wrote:You an MD? Eric Gordon is 24.


5 years in the league and 0 full seasons played with 82 games. Seems like a trend to me. Shoot after his first year he has maxed out at 62 games played and 60 started. Not a great gamble with it being five years worth and costing a quarter of your salary cap.
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