Woj: Pierce and Garnett to Brooklyn?!?

[Context]

Major difference between Pierce and KG being counted on as your 1st and 2nd best players compared to being the 4th and 5th best on the Nets. Less responsibility to shoulder, more production out of them

Don't really see this being a game changing move. Nets probably win the division and fizzle out early during the playoffs. Much like we did. Like I said, if this were 2011, I would totally be on board the Nets being a legit contender bandwagon.

With all due respect to my fellow Knicks fans. You guys are lying to yourself if you think thatnlineup doesn't make them title contenders. Injuries and chemistry would be the only issues. Kg, Pierce, and Kidd have won Chips before and will have the ear of the entire team.

[PornDoc]

I hate my life.

[johnnywishbone]

The whole team got hurt. You can have every name in the World on your roster but if Chris Duhon is starting you're in trouble.

And who's to say that Pierce and KG will stay healthy for an entire season? Piece is going to turn 36 this year and Garnett is 37. They're just getting older. I see them dropping off the way Nash did this past season. But that's just what I see happening. I guess we'll see.

Nash broke his leg in a freak injury. They are mortgaging their whole future on the next two seasons. It's not the way I'd run a team but the battle for the Big Apple is on now.

[Butch718]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

[kosmovitelli]

Woj saying it's up to KG now. If this goes down, BK becomes a major fake contender. Certainly better than us if their old asses can stay healthy.

If trade only involves Celtics and Nets then it makes no sense for either team. For Boston, Gerald Wallace's contract will be a burden but I can understand it if they can get the future first round picks totally unprotected (like the Suns did with the Lakers last year for Nash). For the Nets, it makes little sense to have so many duplicates at several positions, there's only one ball...but it could make some sense if :
- it's true they can trade Lopez to Portland for LMA
- they package KG to the Clippers for DJ
- they can trade Johnson or he accepts to sit on the bench and become their 6th man ala Jamal Crawford

If the Nets were to keep both KG and PP then they would have a $100+ million payroll and half of their future draft picks traded (and some could be unprotected). It's almost like Isiah Thomas became the Nets GM ! Nets look like Isiah's Knicks circa 2007. A bit harsh for King because at least he made the playoffs ! lol

Anyway let's wait until it's official and the details of the trade.

[johnnywishbone]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

Just being real.

[god shammgod]

The whole team got hurt. You can have every name in the World on your roster but if Chris Duhon is starting you're in trouble.

And who's to say that Pierce and KG will stay healthy for an entire season? Piece is going to turn 36 this year and Garnett is 37. They're just getting older. I see them dropping off the way Nash did this past season. But that's just what I see happening. I guess we'll see.

garnett couldn't stay healthy this last season

[Butch718]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

Just being real.

[Context]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

Don't do that butch...there is a fine line between opinion and in this case an obvious upgrade. Evans and Wallace are being replaced with two HOF'ers...so go ahead and make it about an "opinion". You are clearly putting blinders on. Again, Evans and Wallace are being replaced with KG and Pierce. You just refuse to acknowledge the obvious Butch...

[Butch718]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

Don't do that butch...there is a fine line between opinion and in this case an obvious upgrade. Evans and Wallace are being replaced with two HOF'ers...so go ahead and make it about an "opinion". You are clearly putting blinders on. Again, Evans and Wallace are being replaced with KG and Pierce. You just refuse to acknowledge the obvious Butch...

You obviously don't know me as a poster if you think I'm putting blinders on. I'm not one for bashing another team's moves for the sake of being a hater.

I just don't think this trade makes them as good as some of you guys are making it out to be. So spare me this blinders and you're lying to yourself crap.

[Mr_Perfect]

It's time. Chandler and Shumpert for Aldridge, Matthews and Maynor. Do it.

[Context]

Yeah, I must be lying to myself for having an entirely different opinion than yours.

Don't do that butch...there is a fine line between opinion and in this case an obvious upgrade. Evans and Wallace are being replaced with two HOF'ers...so go ahead and make it about an "opinion". You are clearly putting blinders on. Again, Evans and Wallace are being replaced with KG and Pierce. You just refuse to acknowledge the obvious Butch...

You obviously don't know me as a poster if you think I'm putting blinders on. I'm not one for bashing another team's moves for the sake of being a hater.

I just don't think this trade makes them as good as some of you guys are making it out to be. So spare me this blinders and you're lying to yourself crap.

Butch I read ur posts all the time bro...When I say blinders I mean whatever has u refusing to acknowledge the obvious upgrade; assuming guys stay healthy...

[cgmw]

It's time. Chandler and Shumpert for Aldridge, Matthews and Maynor. Do it.

Where, on 2K?

[Mr_Perfect]

It's time. Chandler and Shumpert for Aldridge, Matthews and Maynor. Do it.

Where, on 2K?

In my mind. That's where all the best things happen.

[Butch718]

Butch I read ur posts all the time bro...When I say blinders I mean whatever has u refusing to acknowledge the obvious upgrade; assuming guys stay healthy...

I'm not even denying that they're upgrades over guys like Wallace, Kardashian or Evans. I just don't think that they're significant enough to make a legit run in the east. I still think teams like Chicago and Indiana are better.

Anyway, I apologize for being a bit aggressive towards you. I just honestly don't think this is the game changer that some of you guys are making it out to be. Do I think the Nets are currently better than us on paper? Yes. But not by much. And I certainly wouldn't pick them over Chicago's and Indiana's cores.

[Context]

Butch I read ur posts all the time bro...When I say blinders I mean whatever has u refusing to acknowledge the obvious upgrade; assuming guys stay healthy...

I'm not even denying that they're upgrades over guys like Wallace, Kardashian or Evans. I just don't think that they're significant enough to make a legit run in the east. I still think teams like Chicago and Indiana are still better.

Anyway, I apologize for being a bit aggressive towards you. I just honestly don't think this is the game changer that some of you guys are making it out to be. Do I think the Nets are currently better than us on paper? Yes. But not by much.

No sweat bro...I know what it's like when u feel like someone is telling u why u formed ur opinion or what ur thinking and u know it's not the case... I didn't do a good job articulating my point and shouldn't have used the "blinders" reference so loosely...

[spree8]

Major difference between Pierce and KG being counted on as your 1st and 2nd best players compared to being the 4th and 5th best on the Nets. Less responsibility to shoulder, more production out of them

Don't really see this being a game changing move. Nets probably win the division and fizzle out early during the playoffs. Much like we did. Like I said, if this were 2011, I would totally be on board the Nets being a legit contender bandwagon.

With all due respect to my fellow Knicks fans. You guys are lying to yourself if you think thatnlineup doesn't make them title contenders. Injuries and chemistry would be the only issues. Kg, Pierce, and Kidd have won Chips before and will have the ear of the entire team.

I agree. They have a top 5 pg in Deron (Cp3, Westbrook, Rose, Parker and maybe Rondo are better/equal) Joe Johnson who has no problem being a 2nd creator and shooter (like a Ray Allen type role) while taking a backseat to Pierce. KG doesn't command the ball like he used to at all, and would just enjoy getting open looks without having to create much for himself at his age. Brook goes to work as the primary post guy, and it's a perfect flowing system for that starting 5. 1st option Pierce, post option Brook and Deron getting his looks somewhere in between while JJ and KG get open looks off the doubles.

I see nothing wrong with that team. Pierce and KG are champions...along the lines of Duncan who at 37 still has a fire to compete. No way this is a problem for the Nets. With JKidd and Frank...this will work. If they had Melo to share the ball with 2 other top guys, it might be a problem...but these guys are unselfish. They made it work with Rondo and Ray Allen. As much as I hate them, and don't want them to succeed...they will if this goes down. That's for damn sure.

[Context]

Don't really see this being a game changing move. Nets probably win the division and fizzle out early during the playoffs. Much like we did. Like I said, if this were 2011, I would totally be on board the Nets being a legit contender bandwagon.

With all due respect to my fellow Knicks fans. You guys are lying to yourself if you think thatnlineup doesn't make them title contenders. Injuries and chemistry would be the only issues. Kg, Pierce, and Kidd have won Chips before and will have the ear of the entire team.

I agree. They have a top 5 pg in Deron (Cp3, Westbrook, Rose, Parker and maybe Rondo are better/equal) Joe Johnson who has no problem being a 2nd creator and shooter (like a Ray Allen type role) while taking a backseat to Pierce. KG doesn't command the ball like he used to at all, and would just enjoy getting open looks without having to create much for himself at his age. Brook goes to work as the primary post guy, and it's a perfect flowing system for that starting 5. 1st option Pierce, post option Brook and Deron getting his looks somewhere in between while JJ and KG get open looks off the doubles.

I see nothing wrong with that team. Pierce and KG are champions...along the lines of Duncan who at 37 still has a fire to compete. No way this is a problem for the Nets. With JKidd and Frank...this will work. If they had Melo to share the ball with 2 other top guys, it might be a problem...but these guys are unselfish. They made it work with Rondo and Ray Allen. As much as I hate them, and don't want them to succeed...they will if this goes down. That's for damn sure.

And Brook Lopez just might get better. KG with be available to him as a mentor...

[rammagen]

3 yrs ago wow this would have been a changer, but now not so much sorry they get a cheap shot artist in garnet for a yr, an old pierce who can leave next yr and terry all players on the wrong side of 35, add that to Johnson and deron and one asks who many balls are on the court. I see a 50 win team and then a 1st rnd exit

As far as bashing melo in this thread what schmucks you all are share the ball get him another scorer and that is not the issue.
Ask yourselves where is Amare that is not melo's fault, never mind Kidd disappearing as well

[spree8]

3 yrs ago wow this would have been a changer, but now not so much sorry they get a cheap shot artist in garnet for a yr, an old pierce who can leave next yr and terry all players on the wrong side of 35, add that to Johnson and deron and one asks who many balls are on the court. I see a 50 win team and then a 1st rnd exit

As far as bashing melo in this thread what schmucks you all are share the ball get him another scorer and that is not the issue.
Ask yourselves where is Amare that is not melo's fault, never mind Kidd disappearing as well

It's not bashing...it's the truth. Melo can't play with other stars on his level. He needs role players around him or at most a #2 option that is just that. Someone who knows their role and doesn't try to do more than him. That's why he did well with Billups and not Iverson. That's why he's not doing well with Amare, but great with Tyson and JR Smith. Again, not bashing, but it's just the way it's been the past 10 years of his career. Wake up.

You put him on a team with Brook, Deron, and JJ.....and you have a problem. Not the same for Pierce and KG.