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Post#781 » by GreenMachine » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:32 am

PP 4 Three wrote:KG and Pierce still don't win a ring in Brooklyn IMO. This is like Pippen and Barkley joining up in Houston when they were way past their primes. It would've served much better for KG's legacy if he retired in Boston.


I don't know. They should basically red-shirt both PP and KG - or at least keep them to like 20 - 25 minutes a night and keep them healthy for the playoffs. IF and it's a HUGE if they are healthy for the playoffs - and I mean truly healthy - which neither of them were this year - they should have a really good shot at it. Best PG and best Center they have EVER played with... and JJ should be better with some of the pressure taken off his shoulders. If they can somehow find 2 or 3 guys for the bench... they will be good. Oh yeah... they have Terry too... well if Terry can bounce back, he can be a great 6th man for them. Maybe his old buddy Kidd can bring it out of him...
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Post#782 » by TommyPoints » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:32 am

At least they aren't going to the Clippers. **** those guys?
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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#783 » by burgerplex » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 am

Tank! Tank! Tank! Tank! Tank!

Let's do this, baby! Rebuild the right way: by fielding the worst team possible! I'm all in. If we start winning, trade Rondo, too.
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Post#784 » by Slax » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:Who gets the right to swap picks in '17, us or them?


It was reported as "part of the Nets package to the Celtics", so I suppose we have the right to swap picks.
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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#785 » by Egregiousness » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 am

honestly how the hell do we play gerald wallace and jeff green together?? they are the same player, except green is much smarter. there has to be future moves, and wallace is an unmovable contract. i just dont understand this at all for 25-30 range picks
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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#786 » by bballcool34 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:33 am

PP 4 Three wrote:KG and Pierce still don't win a ring in Brooklyn IMO. This is like Pippen and Barkley joining up in Houston when they were way past their primes. It would've served much better for KG's legacy if he retired in Boston.


No. Neither one of their legacy's would suffer if they didn't win---> as you said, they're old. But if they do, they improve. That's how it works.
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Post#787 » by 31to6 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:34 am

Slax wrote:
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Adrian Wojnarowski @WojYahooNBA 3h

Kris Joseph will part of the Nets package to the Celtics, as well as the right to swap draft picks in 2017, league source tells Y! Sports.


hahahaha we're really banking on the Nets being a terrible team between 2016 and 2018.


LOL that Danny looked to the Clips and Nets when shopping for future picks.
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Post#788 » by GreenBloodedC » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:34 am

We always knew that this day would come. But there's no way to prepare for it.

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Probably one of the saddest news in the history of the #Celitcs since the retirement of Larry Bird. Time to move on

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Post#789 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:35 am

Kinda funny... but we now have the potential to get the #1 overall pick in the next five drafts. Could get the Top two picks in 3 of them.

Our own pick in '14, own/Clippers pick in '15, own/Nets picks in '16, '17 and '18.

That won't happen, but people are way underestimating the potential suckability of the Nets and Clippers after this next season, and undervaluing our own suckability during next season.

Unprotected picks are almost as good as unprotected sex.

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Post#790 » by AgentGreen » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:35 am

The biggest issue is that you'll have now 2 bad contracts, Bass and Wallace. We need to get rid of Bass and i'm curious how Ainge will pull that off. If Bass and Wallace keep suckin, they will stay for the next 3 seasons in Boston.

If Bass gets traded eventually it will also cost us Bradley in a deal i think.
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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#791 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 am

Slax wrote:
Captain_Caveman wrote:Who gets the right to swap picks in '17, us or them?


It was reported as "part of the Nets package to the Celtics", so I suppose we have the right to swap picks.


Yup... it's in the latest Woj article too.

http://sports.yahoo.com/news/nba--nets- ... 13145.html
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Post#792 » by 31to6 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 am

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PP 4 Three wrote:KG and Pierce still don't win a ring in Brooklyn IMO. This is like Pippen and Barkley joining up in Houston when they were way past their primes. It would've served much better for KG's legacy if he retired in Boston.


No. Neither one of their legacy's would suffer if they didn't win---> as you said, they're old. But if they do, they improve. That's how it works.


And honestly - as a guy who's getting older himself - I just feel like if you can keep playing, put yourself in the best situation you can and keep playing. Life's too short. Play ball while you can.
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Post#793 » by Marley2Hendrix » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:Kinda funny... but we now have the potential to get the #1 overall pick in the next five drafts. Could get the Top two picks in 3 of them.

Our own pick in '14, own/Clippers pick in '15, own/Nets picks in '16, '17 and '18.

That won't happen, but people are way underestimating the potential suckability of the Nets and Clippers after this next season, and undervaluing our own suckability during next season.

Unprotected picks are almost as good as unprotected sex.

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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#794 » by Captain_Caveman » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:36 am

AgentGreen wrote:The biggest issue is that you'll have now 2 bad contracts, Bass and Wallace. We need to get rid of Bass and i'm curious how Ainge will pull that off. If Bass and Wallace keep suckin, they will stay for the next 3 seasons in Boston.

If Bass gets traded eventually it will also cost us Bradley in a deal i think.


Bass only has two more years.

Lee, Crash and Green have 3.
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Post#795 » by Andrew McCeltic » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:37 am

The real question is- with Humphries/Bradley(/Sullinger/1st) as the root of a trade offer, who do you call up? POR for Aldridge? NOLAP for Gordon? PHO for Gortat/Beasley/1st? CHI for Boozer? DEN for Chandler/Mcgee?
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Post#796 » by jfs1000d » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:37 am

Can we stop pining for Wiggins?

It;s one year from the draft. We got an entire season to suck and get a best case 75 percent chance of not getting him. Let's get a roster first, field a real NBA team, and see where we are.
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Post#797 » by chum » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:37 am

Frank Lucas wrote:This is not going to happen. Like I said I'm looking forward to the deals that hasn't been leak. The deal that we don't see coming. The fact that this is out there makes me think it was talk about but Danny told Billy to go kick rocks.


humblebum wrote:Probably less than a 5% chance the Celtics are giving up Pierce and KG for this craptastic package either. But I agree that Lopez obviously is not involved in any of these talks. Hard to see how this is anything more than the Nets desperately attempting to improve their team with the extremely limited assets and flexibility that they possess.


PP 4 Three wrote:KG wouldn't waive his no-trade clause to go to Brooklyn.


The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:The more I read about these rumors the more and more likely I think PP is a Celtic until at least February.


ryaningf wrote:This rumor gets broke on draft day when both sides are aware it can't be completed until July 11th and it requires KG's approval? Sounds like a nice heap of draft day posturing and rumor mongering on the smokescreen express.

Next!


ddb wrote:this trade isn't happening.

A. Nets don't have anything to offer
B. The Wallace contract is brutal. And I mean BRUTAL.
C. Their draft picks will be late 1st round picks.
D. Ainge doesn't want to see KG/PP all season long in the Atlantic.

with rumors that Dwight isn't likely to sign with the Lakers...Nets should focus on S/T Lopez for Dwight. KG/PP doesn't win them a title. sorry but a DW/JJ/PP/KG/BL starting 5 isn't beating Miami


Frank Lucas wrote:Nothing to see here folks. Like I've been saying I'm looking at the trades that haven't been talked about. The one we don't see coming until it actually happens. Once this stuff hit the rumor mill it means the deal is dead or it was just a short conversation between GMs and Danny told Billy to kick rocks. I don't see a trade involving Boston happen tonight. The league knows that Boston is trying to sale off parts so I don't see us getting anything right now. The Pierce to Cavs thing has been dead for a couple of days now.


Fun reading back through this thread :D
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Post#798 » by sully00 » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:37 am

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sully00 wrote:Crying about Gerald Wallace's contract is about as short sighted a thing as I can imagine. Danny Ainge just traded two guys that it looked like we might have to buy out for 3 first round picks two of those Nets picks will be after KG and Pierce are gone and JJ is 34 and making 30 million dollars.

KG and Paul are my favorite players ever and I am actually thrilled they will get another crack at a title together. But Ainge has pulled off a miracle here.

Bill Simmons hates that is all you have to know.


Miracle trade??? really dude.... Gerald Wallace is terrible and u could have pierce and garnett off the cap and gotten a better player then freaken Gerald i suck wallace and 3 pks which will be 20's... why in the world wud anyone take on wallace who cant defend, shoot, do anything useful anymore... amazing


I get why a Knick fan is pissed your screwed. But Wallace is what he is he plays great he may get you another draft pick no then buy him out and stretch his deal.

Boston is now under the lux tax they can still turn around and trade one of their 4 extra draft picks with Humphries to ATL if they want Josh Smith or some other deal.

I guarantee no GM has ever pulled off dealing 2 36 year olds and a 37 year old guaranteed a total of 45 million dollars over the next two years for 3 first round picks and actually cut salary.
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Re: KG and Pierce to Brooklyn? 

Post#799 » by tfmiii » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:38 am

Captain_Caveman wrote:Kinda funny... but we now have the potential to get the #1 overall pick in the next five drafts. Could get the Top two picks in 3 of them.

Our own pick in '14, own/Clippers pick in '15, own/Nets picks in '16, '17 and '18.

That won't happen, but people are way underestimating the potential suckability of the Nets and Clippers after this next season, and undervaluing our own suckability during next season.

Unprotected picks are almost as good as unprotected sex.

FTW!

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Post#800 » by gocelts » Fri Jun 28, 2013 3:38 am

smith2373 wrote:
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The_Ghost_of_JB wrote:
Any season ticket holder should have seen this coming.



Oh REALY? I suppose you know a few 13 year olds that have nba potential? Do you have a mock for the 2018 draft? What moron thought we would trade two great players for 3 picks over SIX years ANd take a CRAP contract back?


We're a **** rebuilding team. We're not looking to win now. The Celtics will probably trade that pick before 2018 even gets here.

KG and Pierce don't have the great value around the league that you think they have. Quit being a homer. We weren't getting a good prospect back for them, we weren't getting a lottery pick back for them. This is reality. This is the type of offers we were going to get that. There was no way we were going to trade KG/Pierce and not have to back a bad contract or two or not acquire future picks down the line.


I would have taken Jordan and a pick for KG...I would have taken Asik for Pierce....these picks we got tonight will be WORTHLESS. We ALREADY will have our own lottery Picks and high 2nds if we just buy out pierce and let kG retire...and not have to pay Wallace 30 million.


And if watching the best player Cs have had in 20 years get traded for crap makes me a "homer" that's fine. Who's the homer anyway? Explain to me how you root or watch a '16 and '18 draft pick during the next two years?

The NBA isn't the developmental league. They get paid millions to play basketball. Rebuilding is okay and acceptable, but to just throw away KG and pierce to FING Jason Kidd in his 3rd day on the job is completely asinine. Danny blew this one big time.
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