Z-Rex: The Cody Zeller Thread

Badd_Intentions · Post #321 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:00 pm

Zeller wasn't my top choice, but whatever. I think he'll be a good not great player. Definitely twice as good as his bro. I just have this feeling that BM is going to be a great player. I think what turned a lot of people off about him is his performance against Syracuse, not that anyone on IU played great but those bigs really gave Cody some issues down low. Granted they play zone so they really clog the paint and the game in the NBA is far more open.

Cody brings skills to the table that we are in need of and what team doesn't want a big that has some athleticism and hustles down the floor, so I am not expecting him to make us leaps and bounds better, but I do think he can help us be a better team.

catch20two · Post #322 » by **catch20two** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:01 pm

With that shooting form combined with his short arms I wonder if Zeller is going to be able to make contested jump shots.

Badd_Intentions · Post #323 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:19 pm

His standing height will help. I'm assuming most players guarding him will be 6'8" - 6'10"

Makaveli92 · Post #324 » by **Makaveli92** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:21 pm

Hopefully this means, Biyombo will be benched, and the Bobcats can sign someone like JJ Hickson to play PF.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
Hickson/McRoberts/fA
Zeller/Biyombo/Haywood

BeesWax · Post #325 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:27 pm

I think it is more likely this.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
McRoberts/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood

Could be changed if we chose to go after a FA.

Snidely FC · Post #326 » by **Snidely FC** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:28 pm

Kevin Pelton ranks the picks usinig WARP.While Cody Zeller had the 5th highest WARP of top prospects, Pelton ranks CHA's choice 12th:

12. Charlotte Bobcats, +0.3 (Expected: 2.3, actual 2.5)
As surprising as Cody Zeller may have been at No. 4 -- especially with Noel still on the board -- by this measure he scores as a positive pick thanks to the fifth-best WARP* projection in the draft.

[*start by translating a player's college statistics to his NBA equivalents. That produces a per-minute rating, player win% (equivalent to PER), that projects how we can expect rookies to perform in the NBA next season. By adding age, come up with a projection of how many Wins Above Replacement Player (WARP) prospects will produce over their first five years -- the amount of time teams control a first-round pick between the four-year rookie contract and one year as a restricted free agent.]

BTW I was also surprised to learn that Zeller, whose face makes him looks like a grandfather, is still only 20. (younger than Mitch McGary!)

Makaveli92 · Post #327 » by **Makaveli92** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:29 pm

jdm3 wrote:I think it is more likely this.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
McRoberts/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood

Could be changed if we chose to go after a FA.

You think Cho dafted Zeller 4th overall, over McLemore and noel to come off the bench for McRoberts? lol, I hope not.

Post #328 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:35 pm

zeller will wear #40

mrknowitall215 · Post #329 » by **mrknowitall215** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Makaveli92 wrote:Hopefully this means, Biyombo will be benched, and the Bobcats can sign someone like JJ Hickson to play PF.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
Hickson/McRoberts/fA
Zeller/Biyombo/Haywood

The reach (no pun intended) of Cody Zeller was made to compliment Bismack Biyombo in the starting lineup. Even if Charlotte does sign J.J. Hickson, there is no way that him & Zeller could start together. That would make for a lesser interior defensive unit than last year's duo of Biyombo & Byron Mullens

Post #330 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Colin Hoggard ‏@ColinWFNZ 1h

Coach Clifford says Cody's mentality of playing for his teammates is very similar to KG.

BeesWax · Post #331 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Makaveli92 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I think it is more likely this.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
McRoberts/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood

Could be changed if we chose to go after a FA.

You think Cho dafted Zeller 4th overall, over McLemore and noel to come off the bench for McRoberts? lol, I hope not.

I think when it comes down to it you have to play the best guys at the spots at least starting. Zeller can't handle C since he is short reach wise and not physical enough. Zeller has a long way to go before he can handle the physical nature of the NBA and his move to PF due to his size.

BadMofoPimp · Post #332 » by **BadMofoPimp** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:36 pm

Being in Orlando, I do know that Zeller stayed an extra day during his workouts which means the Magic were serious about him enough that they worked him out over two days. That was more than any other player stayed. People here thought the Magic were considering him at #2. I think he may surprise people.

Makaveli92 · Post #333 » by **Makaveli92** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:44 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Makaveli92 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I think it is more likely this.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
McRoberts/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood

Could be changed if we chose to go after a FA.

You think Cho dafted Zeller 4th overall, over McLemore and noel to come off the bench for McRoberts? lol, I hope not.

I think when it comes down to it you have to play the best guys at the spots at least starting. Zeller can't handle C since he is short reach wise and not physical enough. Zeller has a long way to go before he can handle the physical nature of the NBA and his move to PF due to his size.

Kemba
Henderson
MKG
Zeller
Biyombo

BeesWax · Post #334 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:50 pm

Makaveli92 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:
Makaveli92 wrote:
You think Cho dafted Zeller 4th overall, over McLemore and noel to come off the bench for McRoberts? lol, I hope not.

I think when it comes down to it you have to play the best guys at the spots at least starting. Zeller can't handle C since he is short reach wise and not physical enough. Zeller has a long way to go before he can handle the physical nature of the NBA and his move to PF due to his size.

Kemba
Henderson
MKG
Zeller
Biyombo

Zeller is currently light years behind McRoberts as a PF. He has a long way to go to become a stretch 4 like we drafted him to be. He needs to improve his handle, court vision, and perimeter defense.

Badd_Intentions · Post #335 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:53 pm

Hard to see a top 5 pick not starting on a bad team, ESP in favor of a career journeyman like Mcroberts.

This is clearly a youth movement. Start him and give him as many minutes as possible.

BeesWax · Post #336 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 7:59 pm

Badd_Intentions wrote:Hard to see a top 5 pick not starting on a bad team, ESP in favor of a career journeyman like Mcroberts.

This is clearly a youth movement. Start him and give him as many minutes as possible.

I guess that will make us worse and help with the tank everyone is cheering for.

Badd_Intentions · Post #337 » by **Badd_Intentions** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:01 pm

So how many more wins will we net by replacing zeller with Mcroberts in the starting lineup?

Robot Rock · Post #338 » by **Robot Rock** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:03 pm

jdm3 wrote:
Makaveli92 wrote:
jdm3 wrote:I think it is more likely this.

Kemba/Sessions/FA
Henderson/Gordon/FA
MKG/FA/Taylor
McRoberts/Zeller
Biyombo/Haywood

Could be changed if we chose to go after a FA.

You think Cho dafted Zeller 4th overall, over McLemore and noel to come off the bench for McRoberts? lol, I hope not.

I think when it comes down to it you have to play the best guys at the spots at least starting. Zeller can't handle C since he is short reach wise and not physical enough. Zeller has a long way to go before he can handle the physical nature of the NBA and his move to PF due to his size.

But somehow someone 6'9" is a better fit at C? I don't see it. Zeller is also better than McRoberts, it's absurd to say he isn't.

BeesWax · Post #339 » by **BeesWax** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:03 pm

Don't know if it will make any difference. We could be bad enough that subbing in a better PF won't help at all or it could be 5 or 6 wins depending on the rest of the squad.

Post #340 » by **fatlever** » Fri Jun 28, 2013 8:03 pm

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba-dr ... z2XXh2IE3g

Was Cody Zeller a reach? Maybe, but let's not forget, Zeller was a projected top-three pick last season, before he waded his way through a so-so sophomore season. Stan Van Gundy has told me that new 'Cats coach Steve Clifford is great at developing athletic bigs, citing Rashard Lewis and Hedo Turkogulu as examples. He's got the most athletic big in the draft in Zeller.

Read More: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/nba-dr ... z2XXjiKTqE

that article also forgot to mention ryan anderson. he also worked with earl clark last year in LA. clifford obviously is good with stretch 4s.