WT- Nate unlikely to be back (WAIT! + instagram pic pg 81!)

PJ Brown · Post #121 » by **PJ Brown** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:58 am

Chitownbulls wrote:You know why players don't want to come here????

Because we are dirt cheap

We don't even want to cough up a million dollars for Nate Robinson to resign.....HE WAS THE BEST BARGAIN IN THE NBA LAST SEASON AN A HUGE REASON FOR OUR SUCCESS

I wouldn't want to come here either...doing him dirty

You're drastically misrepresenting the situation. The Bulls did not turn him away at 1.1 million. That's not what's happening here.

Tenchi Ryu · Post #122 » by **Tenchi Ryu** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 1:59 am

Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

Mr Funk · Post #123 » by **Mr Funk** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:00 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:Just getting home, was this confirmed?

No, nothing's been confirmed.

The Bulls beat reporters, as usual, are all gloom and doom, whereas Nate on social media is all #Bulls #Bulls and wants to play with Rose.

Bottom line:

DON'T BE A CHEAP ASS REINSDORF AND LET GAR-PAX GET IT DONE :evil:

Chitownbulls · Post #124 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:00 am

I don't know what he wants, all I know is he wants a multi year deal. And I read somewhere on this board that it isn't about the money for him...he just wants to stay here. That's all im going off of.

Mr Funk · Post #125 » by **Mr Funk** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:01 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

Where are you getting this impression from? The MMLE would be more than enough for Nate.

Chitownbulls · Post #126 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:01 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

and if that's true...best of luck to him, I cant argue with that. I expect him to get a decent payday anyway. But if he goes somewhere else on the cheap ill be mad

Tenchi Ryu · Post #127 » by **Tenchi Ryu** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:04 am

Mr Funk wrote:
Tenchi Ryu wrote:Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

Where are you getting this impression from? The MMLE would be more than enough for Nate.

I can't see Chicago not having thrown it to him already unless Nate's agent is trying to negotiate more. And after that playoff performance, can't blame them.

Chitownbulls · Post #128 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:04 am

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This was awesome....5'8!!!!

Mr Funk · Post #129 » by **Mr Funk** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:05 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
Mr Funk wrote:
Tenchi Ryu wrote:Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

Where are you getting this impression from? The MMLE would be more than enough for Nate.

I can't see Chicago not having thrown it to him already unless Nate's agent is trying to negotiate more. And after that playoff performance, can't blame them.

So just your own personal speculation then.

Chitownbulls · Post #130 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:06 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
Mr Funk wrote:
Tenchi Ryu wrote:Yea I got the impression Chicago feels the MMLE won't be enough for Nate.

Where are you getting this impression from? The MMLE would be more than enough for Nate.

I can't see Chicago not having thrown it to him already unless Nate's agent is trying to negotiate more. And after that playoff performance, can't blame them.

Last I read Nate an Marco both want to stay and both don't care what the money is...of course you know that's probably not exactly the truth...but I mean, Ill take Nate over Marco if they both want about the same.

Mr Funk · Post #131 » by **Mr Funk** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:08 am

I'm sure Gar-Pax want both of them, or at least Nate, but the problem is Reinsdorf.

Tenchi Ryu · Post #132 » by **Tenchi Ryu** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:09 am

Mr Funk wrote:
So just your own personal speculation then.

Uh...well that's what I meant when I said I got the impression. I just see no reason for Chicago to be keeping Nate in the loop like this when he is easily a piece we need unless they don't plan on keeping him.

Chitownbulls · Post #133 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:10 am

Hes a perfect 6th man scorer for us and for our 2nd unit. He provided so many more big games for us than what Marco did.

Rose,Hinrich
Jimmy, Nate
Deng, Snell
Booz, Taj
Noah, FA?, Nazr

I like that team...cant we get just buyout Teagues contract or something? He wont have near the impact Nate will the next 2-3 years...trade him for some 2nd rounders or something?

Mr Funk · Post #134 » by **Mr Funk** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:12 am

Tenchi Ryu wrote:
Mr Funk wrote:
So just your own personal speculation then.

Uh...well that's what I meant when I said I got the impression. I just see no reason for Chicago to be keeping Nate in the loop like this when he is easily a piece we need unless they don't plan on keeping him.

I've gotten the impression via Nate on social media that something positive is developing.

Keller61 · Post #135 » by **Keller61** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:12 am

My guess is that Nate wants to stay here but his agent and other people close to him are going to persuade him to get a bigger deal somewhere else.

TheStig · Post #136 » by **TheStig** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:15 am

How much do we figure nate will get? I can't see anything more than 3years and 9 mill. Are we really that cheap that we can't get it done? Why not trade Kirk for cap space? I'd easily give nate 2 years and 5 mill, that seems like a good deal for both parties. I'd much rather have Marco and Nate than Kirk.

Chitownbulls · Post #137 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:15 am

Keller61 wrote:My guess is that Nate wants to stay here but his agent and other people close to him are going to persuade him to get a bigger deal somewhere else.

which makes sense...Teagues contract is hurting us right now, same with the often injured Kirk Hinrich

Post #138 » by **dougthonus** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:17 am

burlydee wrote:Rose's skillsets are pretty great, and it would be nice to have some overlap there. Only Bulls fans worry so much about overlapping talent. You win with talent. Nate is a talented scorer. The kind of guy who can carry your 2nd unit and help ease the burden on your starters doing the regular season. And I completely disagree that he and Rose couldn't play together. Nate was at his most effective, in my opinion, on those rare occasions he got to play the 2 along side Kirk. He is a scorer first and foremost. That much speed and penetration on the floor would be difficult for any team to match up with.

I don't think they'd play well together, but I agree I'd like NAte back to run the second unit.

I never said "the Bulls don't want to win," everyone wants to win. It is about what you're willing to do, in this case pay for, to win. It is hard for me to see this as anything other than a financial decision. From the reports it seems the Bulls are targeting league minimum players. Nate played himself out of that range. There is a rumor JL3 may be on his way back. What basketball decision justifies JL3 over Nate?

I also agree it's likely a financial decision. The Bulls are presently set to spend about 93 million in payroll after the tax I believe. I don't think they want to add 8 million or so to that total to have Nate Robinson when they already have three PGs on guaranteed deals.

Post #139 » by **dougthonus** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:22 am

gineric 12 wrote:You aren't going to beat the Heat by out "talent-ing" them. But, what Nate does is bring the single most important quality/talent to the Bulls in their quest to beat the Heat and he might just be the best bargain in the league doing it (at least he was last year). I think the message this sends is worse than the physical act of not signing him. I mean if the Bulls aren't willing to part with the cash to sign the guy who brings shot creation to the roster for the bargain basement price he did/does it for, then how can fans think they would make a major move to improve from here?

I think everyone has their limits. I would guess the Bulls are at their financial limit. Everyone loves the Thunder, but the Thunder gave away James Harden for a bag of crap. We're concerned that we might lose Nate Robinson who's nearly 30 and has had one really successful year in his entire career.

If you think the Bulls will make a major move to improve the team this year then prepare to be disappointed.

I also don't know if the Bulls will use the MMLE (doubt it), but I can see the logic in not signing a fourth PG to a guaranteed deal. I would love to swap out Nate and Hinrich, maybe the Bulls would as well. However, I don't see why you spend the money you have left on Nate Robinson give the number of wings you have vs the number of bigs you have.

Not only that but the reluctance to sign him says something else...

It calls into question whether the FO even knows what this team needs. If they can't see what a HUGE discount it was to hire Nate for the skills he provided for the league minimum (thus making a Nate signing a priority) then doesn't it worry you that they are even considering getting Rose some offensive help? It sure does me...

Why do you think Nate signed here at a discount? He couldn't even get a guaranteed deal anywhere else in the NBA and wasn't exactly tearing of the league before he came here. If anything, the fact the Bulls signed Nate should show you they know exactly what they needed.

Chitownbulls · Post #140 » by **Chitownbulls** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 2:25 am

Cant we just leave a roster spot(s) open and not sign anyone at all? I mean that would probably help a little bit. No need for a guy like Radmanovic, or Malcolm Thomas/D Cook...

Just sign 13 guys....if we need anyone, sign a 10 day contract with someone