2013-2014 Wizard's lineup

[Knighthonor]

Lets discuss how the wizards lineup can be changed and how it can be effective next season after the draft.

1) Wall/Price
2) Beal/Rice
3) Porter/Rice/Ariza
4) Nene/Kevin/Booker
5) Oka/Kevin

Looks pretty nice. But I believe it may be time to start looking for a decent big some how.the draft may be loaded, but the Wiz may want to go for BPA instead of need

EG may not have some of these SFs in the long term plan with so many.

[montestewart]

Lets discuss how the wizards lineup can be changed and how it can be effective next season after the draft.

1) Wall/Price
2) Beal/Rice
3) Porter/Rice/Ariza
4) Nene/Kevin/Booker
5) Oka/Kevin

Looks pretty nice. But I believe it may be time to start looking for a decent big some how.the draft may be loaded, but the Wiz may want to go for BPA instead of need

EG may not have some of these SFs in the long term plan with so many.

Price n Rice, ain't that nice.

[W. Unseld]

How do you think the Wiz stack up now? I can only do the east but here goes:
Unfortunately in no particular order I see teams ahead of them, Miami, Chicago, Nets, Pacers. I think the Wiz overtake the Knicks and pretty much the rest of the Eastern conference this year. Obviously the Nets may not gel and Rose might have a set back but on paper I've got us as 5th in the East by a hair. This tempers my enthusiasm for the draft but I still like what they did.

[rockymac52]

Obviously some big free agent signings could change things, but right now, I agree with you that Miami, Chicago, Brooklyn, and Indiana are a clear top 4 and are locks. New York is probably included in that group as well, I just can't see them missing the playoffs, even if they lose JR Smith and regress.

I think we're the next best team. I think the Celtics will surprise some people and still make the playoffs, unless they keep Rondo out all year and try and tank, but I don't think this will be the case. Then I guess I'll go with the Raptors for the last spot, but I could easily see it being the Cavs, Bucks, or Hawks, depending on what free agents they can sign. Or the Pistons if they sign Iguodala I suppose.

The good news is the East looks really easy to make the playoffs in this year. I think the 6th seed could have a .500 record even. I haven't been this confident about making the playoffs in a long time, knock on wood. Hopefully we avoid big injuries, as always, that's gonna be crucial.

[JRYCRL]

Webster > Porter

At this time at least. No way we are better than last year with Porter in the line-up over Webster. I hate the pick and would've traded back and resigned Webster. Oh well. That's why Ernie has been so money.

[W. Unseld]

Rocky--why do you give NY the edge over the Wiz? I feel like if they lose JR they regress a little and the Wiz move forward a tad if no major injuries.

[80sballboy]

Webster > Porter

At this time at least. No way we are better than last year with Porter in the line-up over Webster. I hate the pick and would've traded back and resigned Webster. Oh well. That's why Ernie has been so money.

And that's why most people loved the pick outside Wiz Nation. He'll be a much better overall player than Webster. He's a better ballhandler, a better passer and a better defender. Webster is a better three-point shooter and a slightly better athlete. He's tremendous when he gets going on a streak but let's not make him out to be what he's not and that's an elite small forward. I'd love to have him back but I don't see why he'd come back here. Are we better now with Rice/Porter over Webster? Hard to tell because I don't know how good we would have been last year had Wall been healthy. I think these are exciting times.

[80sballboy]

Rocky--why do you give NY the edge over the Wiz? I feel like if they lose JR they regress a little and the Wiz move forward a tad if no major injuries.

Melo, a healthy Stoudemire, Shumpert, Felton and Chandler are still better or equal to anything we have. I see at around the 6th seed depending on what we do in FA, which I'm guessing won't be a whole lot.

[W. Unseld]

80's, I think putting Amare down as healthy is a reach. I also think Tyson has lost some athleticism. Melo is obviously the best player on either team but I think they're beatable for the Wiz.

[20MexicanosIn1Van]

1) Wall/Price
2) Beal/Rice
3) Porter/Rice/Ariza
4) Nene/Kevin/Booker
5) Oka/Kevin

I don't see Rice getting much PT. I think they're resigning Webster and he'll play the role you have Rice playing. I would love to see an upgrade at Seraphin's and Price's roles.

[Mizerooskie]

Assuming Ariza and Okafor both exercise their options to stay, and the UFAs all test the market, we've got:

PG: Wall
SG: Beal, Temple, Rice
SF: Porter, Ariza, Singleton
PF: Nene, Booker, Vesely
C: Okafor, Seraphin

I'd try to bring in Billups with the BAE and one of Speights, Dalembert, and Splitter with the MLE.

That would make the roster look like this:

PG: Wall, Billups
SG: Beal, Temple, (Rice)
SF: Porter, Arize, Singleton
PF: Nene, Booker, Vesely
C: Okafor, Speights/Dalembert/Splitter, Seraphin

I have Rice in parenthesis because I think his roster spot is tenuous. The remaining 1-2 roster spots I'd use on minimum-salary perimeter shooters (maybe one on Price). I'm not a good judge on who'd be available for the minimum and who wouldn't, so I'll leave that up to someone else to suggest. Also of note, in this scenario, I'd think Billups would be the primary backup for both the PG and SG positions.

Yes, this scenario leaves Webster out, but I don't think he fits in the MLE anyway.

That looks like a playoff team to me, especially with Philly and Boston bowing out ahead of us in the conference.

[Deeptu McPullup]

As of right now, I'd have our depth chart as follows:

1) Wall/???
2) Beal/???/Rice
3) Ariza/Porter/Singleton-Rice
4) Nene/Kevin/Booker/Vesely-Singleton
5) Oka/Kevin/Vesely

Webster, Price and Temple are free agents, so they're swirling in the primordial void to me. Even Rice is premature, but, got a strong feeling that he'll get a guaranteed contract as our high seconds always come out of camp unless stashed.

I'd expect some traction with transaction action, though. The kinds of guys we plug in 6th, 7th or 8th in our depth chart could actually have a big effect on the trajectory next year. 'Ariza out and Webster back' is a fairly high probability swing as well. Not sure that it's a smart move, but I'm not going into a dung flinging froth on it either.

It'll be interesting in particular to see what we do at the 4-5 slots. I guess there's some sort of a chance that we don't do much as an endorsement of Ernie's Kids if they like what they've seen so far this summer (....or if they're trying to max cap space next summer or if the deals that're available are things like Al Harrowing and Andrea Bargain).

[Liverbird]

I think GRJR will contribute right away. As the roster stands today:

1) Wall/?
2) Beal/Rice/Temple
3) Ariza/Porter/Singleton
4) Nene/Booker/Vesely
5) Okafor/Kevin

I do think we'll resign Webster and a backup PG. Ariza and one of Booker/Vesely (Singleton has no league wide value IMO) will likely get traded to bring in another big before the season begins. Let's assume Booker. Webster will then start until Porter is ready.

1) Wall/?
2) Beal/Rice/Temple
3) Webster/Porter/Singleton
4) Nene/?/Vesely
5) Oka/Kevin

Not bad. Definitely need young bigs but we'll save that for the 2014 draft.

[hands11]

I already had this in the draft thread before this one was started so here.

I wonder how they would line them up with what they have. Something like this could keep Nene and Okafor rested while giving Trevor A a role on the team. Obviously they can do Nene and Okafor together when they need more size and power. And slide Ves in a PF with Nene at center could work pretty well also.

Wall/Temple
Beal/Webster/Price?/GRJ
Webster/Otto/Trevor
Trevor A/Ves/Kevin/Booker
Nene/Okafor/Kevin

That's 13

Singleton, ?? -

Are we looking at something like this with a battle for starting PF ?

Keep in mind, they did not get a S4 Wall wanted though Trevor A is about a close to it as they have and Otto has a lot of Trevor A in him so both can be used at the 4 like that. They would spread the floor for Wall.

I still think they have to bring Webster back. His shooting and his looker room mentoring in just to important.

Otto and Okafor in the second unit gives them defense and rebounding. Price and GRJ provide some outside shooting. One of Ves, Kevin or Booker should fit at PF depending on what you need at the time and how they progress. Kevin if you need more points. Ves is you need length and scrapitude. Booker is the you a man.

This team could be pretty stable just as is. If they resign Okafor, they could have center covered. Wall, Beal and Otto cover the 1, 2 and 3. Webster is your longer term back up SF and SG.

Now its all up to Ves and Kevins. Both are young. Both have some talent. If either or both break out this year. Thats like finding free top picks since more have written off Ves and Kevin hasn't played well enough to slot him in longer term.

So I still see plenty of need and plenty of a role for Webster. Actually I think he is really important.

Next move on the plate is do they bring back Price on a one year or find an upgrade? I think they find a vet upgrade.

[fishercob]

I hope Randy gets creative. There will be scenarios where a Wall-Beal-Webster-Ariza-Porter lineup could work. That would be fun.

[hands11]

http://www.washingtonpost.com/sports/wi ... story.html

“We’re gonna do damage next year,” Porter said on a conference call with reporters. “I already know what they [Wall and Beal] bring to the table. All I do is plug myself in there. It’s gonna be fun.”

The big guys will have to keep up. Washington needs center Nene to play in more than 61 games, which was his total last season. In the final year of his contract, center-power forward Emeka Okafor should be highly motivated. Promising power forward Kevin Seraphin took a step backward. Next season, he’ll have to show he’s getting it. Still, despite some questions, the Wizards have a whole lot to feel good about.

For the first time in so long, Washington’s NBA franchise has talent, depth and real promise. It’s a new day. Don’t be surprised if it’s a very bright one.

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Nice quote by porter. Should be fun as we get to hear more from Beal and Wittman more. Summer ball is around the corner.

Ves is back in CA.

[Knighthonor]

I hope Randy gets creative. There will be scenarios where a Wall-Beal-Webster-Ariza-Porter lineup could work. That would be fun.

That would be a man handling unless porter builds some serious muscles. Hope he a gym rat

[SUPERBALLMAN]

Well just looking at the overall roster as-is, with no outside free agents, or trades...


Porter steps in Cartier Martin's spot, Rice takes Crawford's (Collins) place.

I would keep Webster definitely, as well as Price. Then I'd also look at retaining Temple and Barbosa.

I would force feed Vesely and try to make him a backup center, it's his only chance at having any value. Same with Singleton as a stretch 4.

Okafor, Seraphin, Vesely
Nene, Booker, Singleton
Ariza, Webster, Porter
Beal, Barbosa, Rice
Wall, Price, Temple

With some guys of course able to move around, Nene to center, Webster to SG, etc. May not be ideal but it's a do-able 15.

[Liverbird]

I wouldn't resign Barbosa tbh. I think we have enough depth at the wing.

My preference would be to package Ariza, Booker, Singleton for a combination of a vet PG and PF/C. Unleash Jan!

[hands11]

I wouldn't resign Barbosa tbh. I think we have enough depth at the wing.

My preference would be to package Ariza, Booker, Singleton for a combination of a vet PG and PF/C. Unleash Jan!

I think Ves is already unleashed.

He has an open door to be the back up PF vs Kevin S. In the NBA, you don't get any more of a green light then that if you haven't earned it.

Nene and Okafor can split the center minutes. That's solid center depth and it keeps both fresh. Plus Nene will get some minutes at PF. Okafor averaged 26 mins a game last year. 22 at center for Nene, and 5 at PF. The other 43 go to Trevor A, Ves, Kevin and Otto. If they can't do it, you bump Okafor minutes up some at center and bump Nenes up more at PF until they can.

Its a competition between Ves and Kevin for PF minutes. Nene and Okafor shouldn't get played more then 26 min each if they don't have to. Save their legs for the playoffs.

What they need is the right PG to run that second group.