LaMarcus Aldridge Wants Chicago Part 2

[BIGGIEsmalls 23]

You know what today is? Another day in which LA's trade value has gone down. Be patient LA fans, if he really wants to be a Bull bad enough it will eventually happen.

Yes indeed. The shorter his contract becomes, the more likely he ends up a Bull......on our terms, not Portland's.

[pylb]

Here are some stat comparisons between Carlos Boozer and LaMarcus Aldridge:

Points scored
-Boozer: 16.2
-Aldridge: 21.1

FG%
-Boozer: .477
-Aldridge: .484

Ast%
-Boozer: 66%
-Aldridge: 54%

Foul drawing
-Boozer: 10.4%
-Aldridge: 11.3%

Rebounding
-Boozer: 18%
-Aldridge: 13.2%

Now Boozer's more of inside player, with 37% of his shots coming from inside, versus 27% for LMA. But I feel Aldridge's range would be more useful to space the floor for Derrick, so I'm not sure who has the best shot selection, especially since:
-Boozer's assisted on 64% of his inside shots, Aldridge on 47%
-Boozer shoots 1.5% better from inside than Aldridge, but Aldridge is a full 5% better on jumpshots.

On the passing front, while having similar assist numbers, Boozer throws more bad passes and has more turnovers. He also commits more offensive fouls.

Defensive stats are a joke, so I'll rely on the eye test - and I see Aldridge as the better defender, though he's not a great one either. He does get you blocks if you like those.

(I got tired of trying to format stuff and add pretty colors midway through, sorry)

[Ralphb07]

So basically the Bulls don't really want to aquire LA.

The Bulls don't want Aldridge at Portland's price, which based on many, many rumors is completely insane.

- They turned down #1 and #19 plus capspace
- They turned down Gibson, Cha pick and Mirotic
- They publicly said they only will trade LA for Horford, Love, Blake Griffin, etc.
- They are rumored to have asked for Noah plus other assets.

The guy is good and would help the Bulls, but he is nowhere near that good. Any trade with Portland at this point is likely going to make the trading team significantly worse over the long term.

I think they were just seeing if any team would bite and were starting high. Trust me on this, from both sides I am hearing LMA wants out bad and I think as things go on, the demands will be less. That is kinda what I get the Bulls are doing, just waiting it out.

Nikola, Gibson and the Charlotte isn't a great offer but a good one if your player is bolting in two years. I'd think the Bulls may need to include one more 1st but in the end I suspect the Bulls are hoping Portland realizes its best to just deal him and end this. While LMA has not came out publicly, I think in time he may.

There 3 other teams LMA is willing to go to, but I don't think any of those three have better assets to offer, but two of them do have more cap space to absorb his deal.

LMA loves Rose and wants to play with him and to be honest him and Rose are very similar in the low key, low maintenance aspect.

[anrichardson]

Why are people so willing to give up Mirotic already without even seeing him play? He is already being called the next Dirk. No way I trade him for LMA.

If you are trading Deng and Boozer and pick, fine but Mirotic is not going anywhere.

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[Red Larrivee]

Why are people so willing to give up Mirotic already without even seeing him play? He is already being called the next Dirk. No way I trade him for LMA.

If you are trading Deng and Boozer and pick, fine but Mirotic is not going anywhere.

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Who's calling him the next Dirk? Bulls fans?

Deng and Boozer for Aldridge? Yeah, Portland does that 9/10. Fair value.

[Payt10]

Noah's health always concerns me, moving forward, which is why I would not be opposed of a Noah for Aldridge swap. I would rather see Noah go than Jimmy, and I'm probably crazy for that, but it's all because of the injury. I'd be shocked if this was the last we saw from his plantar faciatis.

[Former Roy]

Why are people so willing to give up Mirotic already without even seeing him play? He is already being called the next Dirk. No way I trade him for LMA.

If you are trading Deng and Boozer and pick, fine but Mirotic is not going anywhere.

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I just wouldn't include him....

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[Red Larrivee]

I just wouldn't include him....

What would your offer be?

[Jimmy Forums]

Why are people so willing to give up Mirotic already without even seeing him play? He is already being called the next Dirk. No way I trade him for LMA.

If you are trading Deng and Boozer and pick, fine but Mirotic is not going anywhere.

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Who's calling him the next Dirk? Bulls fans?

Deng and Boozer for Aldridge? Yeah, Portland does that 9/10. Fair value.

Haha first of all, where did Boozer and Deng come from? Such a step back from where we were at.

Of all the possible snags in this deal, I don't know why it would be Mirotic. If we trade Nikola for LMA, what do we need Nikola for? (We don't.) Why wait on this potential to become the next Dirk, when he could very easily not be the next Dirk? LMA is top-flight. The only 20 PPG big man in the league, 9 rebounds, 1.2 blocks, 20.45 PER. You can't argue with these numbers. The guy is elite. This guy is better than "the next Dirk" because we're gonna have growing pains with Mirotic. LMA's ready to win a championship now.

The guys on NBA TV were talking about this last night; we have the assets to make a very strong package for Aldridge. They want Horford, Love, Blake Griffin, Joakim Noah? Good luck. For a guy that wants out? First off, none of those guys are getting traded (at least I hope not because I think the Griffin-LMA swap would make a lot of sense and Portland would probably pounce. Depends what Doc thinks he can do with Blake). Secondly, of those teams, we're the only one with alternative assets. I still think we'd be best off trying to involve Sacramento and DeMarcus Cousins (and Deng for Evans), but there might come a time when Taj Gibson, Nikola Mirotic, Charlotte's pick, and likely two other picks would be the best package they could get, and that'd be a tough one to turn down if they know Aldridge is leaving.

Bottom line, we are so close to winning a championship; but at the same time, we're clearly not there yet. Derrick, Jimmy, and Jo are not going anywhere, but we've got the necessary pool of assets to make a deal happen for LaMarcus Aldridge. As of now, the price is too high, but so long as we know we're involved in the talks, our chances of pulling it off increase each day as Portland's asking price becomes more realistic.

[anrichardson]

I just wouldn't include him....

What would your offer be?

If we trade Taj, pick, Mirotic, & Deng? Where is our SF coming from and who is backing up Noah? I am just glad we are NOT RealGM's in this forums.

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[AAU Teammate]

You know what today is? Another day in which LA's trade value has gone down. Be patient LA fans, if he really wants to be a Bull bad enough it will eventually happen.

This is interesting logic but the fact remains he has two years left on his deal. If he dislikes Portland now, he'll really hate it if he publicly asks for a trade.

[Jimmy Forums]

You know what today is? Another day in which LA's trade value has gone down. Be patient LA fans, if he really wants to be a Bull bad enough it will eventually happen.

This is interesting logic but the fact remains he has two years left on his deal. If he dislikes Portland now, he'll really hate it if he publicly asks for a trade.

I'm pretty sure somebody posted something a couple days ago about him declining his Portland-based endorsements and dealing with real estate matters. If somebody could find that again that'd be super exciting, but from the sounds of it, he's headed out.

[Doom]

You know what today is? Another day in which LA's trade value has gone down. Be patient LA fans, if he really wants to be a Bull bad enough it will eventually happen.

This is interesting logic but the fact remains he has two years left on his deal. If he dislikes Portland now, he'll really hate it if he publicly asks for a trade.

I'm pretty sure somebody posted something a couple days ago about him declining his Portland-based endorsements and dealing with real estate matters. If somebody could find that again that'd be super exciting, but from the sounds of it, he's headed out.

This is correct, he is looking to get out of the contract with the condo that he has, and he's getting out of his Portland based sponsorships and endorsements.

[Magilla_Gorilla]

Here are some stat comparisons between Carlos Boozer and LaMarcus Aldridge:

I don't know anyone that doesn't acknowledge Aldridge is a better player than the Boozer of today.

The question is, how much better? And what is that worth? IMO, not much to both questions.

[Jimmy Forums]

This is interesting logic but the fact remains he has two years left on his deal. If he dislikes Portland now, he'll really hate it if he publicly asks for a trade.

I'm pretty sure somebody posted something a couple days ago about him declining his Portland-based endorsements and dealing with real estate matters. If somebody could find that again that'd be super exciting, but from the sounds of it, he's headed out.

This is correct, he is looking to get out of the contract with the condo that he has, and he's getting out of his Portland based sponsorships and endorsements.

Thank you.

So those sound like things that a guy who knows his days are numbered would do. If he's doing all that and essentially packing up, it's likely safe to assume he has told management he does not want to be back. Now that I type this out, I think someone else did post something where he explicitly told management he didn't want to be back if they don't improve the roster drastically this offseason.

He's gone. Of the teams he wants to go to, we've got the best opportunity to make a package and that is even whilst keeping Derrick, Jimmy, and Jo. Portland's leverage is minimal. If we play it right, this could happen.

[Clint Eastwood]

If Gibson were to be involved in a deal, when does his poison pill problem go away? When can he actually legitimately be dealt?

[red222]

If Gibson were to be involved in a deal, when does his poison pill problem go away? When can he actually legitimately be dealt?

July 1st it expires

[Jimmy Forums]

Here are some stat comparisons between Carlos Boozer and LaMarcus Aldridge:

I don't know anyone that doesn't acknowledge Aldridge is a better player than the Boozer of today.

The question is, how much better? And what is that worth? IMO, not much to both questions.

Perfect post.

This is the problem. We all know we need to get better, we all know Aldridge is better, we all know we've got assets, but then all of a sudden nobody wants to use the assets to get better. If you guys don't want Aldridge, who do you want? Are you guys all holding out for Love? I like Kevin Love as much as the next guy, and I'd love to have him on the team too, but LMA is available, nay, asking for the Bulls right now, and all of a sudden

Rose/Butler/Deng/Aldridge/Noah or Rose/Tyreke/Butler/Aldridge/Noah

gives us a lineup that a) legitimately might be the best in the league, and b) following the Boozer amnesty, doesn't necessarily have to be filled out by minimums AGAIN. We'd be sitting so pretty.

[Jimmy Forums]

If Gibson were to be involved in a deal, when does his poison pill problem go away? When can he actually legitimately be dealt?

July 1st it expires

Do we lose that TPE on July 1st, too? Am I correct in thinking it was draft or bust for that thing or do we still get it?

If we lose it, what a **** joke. We wasted it with Thomas Robinson on the table.