Boxing Thread 3.0

Blame Rasho · Post #1341 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:50 pm

Butch718 wrote:Which isn't really his fault. His promoters aren't exactly treating him with kid gloves here. GGG was basically busting his ass trying to make a name for himself in Germany before he finally got his first fight on HBO last year. He was practically unknown to the boxing public before then. The fight against Proksa put him on the map and finally gave him some much needed exposure. Now he's finally getting the chance to face a top 10 middle weight. Oh and until Macklin agreed to fight him, most of the top 10 ranked middle weights have been avoiding him like the plague, and it's pretty obvious why.

If he wins tonight like most expect him to, it only opens up more opportunities for him. HBO is pushing him really hard right now. It's pretty obvious that they want him to be the next big thing.

Pretty much.. when you have scary power no one wants to fight you. Sturm and all the other german middleweights wanted no part of him. He has said he will face anyone at 154 to 168. Ward isn't exactly lining up to fight him neither is Froch,Kessler and etc.

Blame Rasho · Post #1342 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sat Jun 29, 2013 8:52 pm

Butch718 wrote:My mistake. I still don't think Haymon wants two of his prizes possessions at 140 facing each other ATM. Matthysse would absolutely destroy Garcia. Not good for his pockets. He would rather have Garcia rematch Zab before he puts him in there with Lucas.

There is basically a mandate by everyone including Showtime.. that fight will happen.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1343 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 1:23 am

GGG by KO in the 5th. Macklin will have too much guts for his own good.

Butch718 · Post #1344 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:56 am

Damn. I haven't seen a body shot KO that good since B-Hop put down De La Hoya.

GGG is an animal.

ItsDaBrush · Post #1345 » by **ItsDaBrush** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 3:57 am

DLH quit vs Hopkins

But GGG definitely impressed tonight, thought Macklin would do something but he was never in the fight. Doubt we'll ever see a Martinez/GGG fight too since his body is breaking down after every fight, nothing more but some goodbye fights in Argentina

Butch718 · Post #1346 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:00 am

Chris Mannix ✔ @ChrisMannixSI

Lou DiBella on the possibility of Martinez/Golovkin: "He's not going to come off a 14-month layoff and fight this animal."
11:51 PM - 29 Jun 2013

Steve Kim @stevemaxboxing

I asked Lou DiBella, when do we make the GGG-Martinez fight;"We don't. This guys an animal." Hey, he's being honest #boxing

Butch718 · Post #1347 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:11 am

Peter Quillin ‏@KIDCHOCOLATE 15m
Me and @gggboxing will be a #ppv headliner #trust and believe coming for that other belt until I get em all.

Quillin has balls. That being said, he ends up getting KO'ed just like the rest of them.

:lol:

Here's an X-Ray of GGG's arm and hand.

ItsDaBrush · Post #1348 » by **ItsDaBrush** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:15 am

Quillin is both Al Haymon and Showtime, a fight between them is pretty much impossible.

Again, don't see the Martinez fight ever happening. Sergio got his knee and skull busted up in the Chavez fight and then broke his hand and injured his knee again after the Murray fight which ended his 2013, he's not shot but he's aged overnight.

Butch718 · Post #1349 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:19 am

No way in hell does Martinez fight GGG. He's going to want that last big payday at 154 against Floyd or Canelo. Whether he gets it or not is a different story.

Butch718 · Post #1350 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 4:29 am

Anyway, not only does GGG have power, but he does a great job of cutting off the ring. He has a good jab and does good body work. On top of that, he's really poised in the ring. I like that he's controlled and doesn't throw wildly.

Blame Rasho · Post #1351 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:29 am

GGG has an anvils in his gloves... His shots move people.... I would love to see him vs Ward....

Martinez...lol... yeah right...

Blame Rasho · Post #1352 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:31 am

ItsDaBrush wrote:Quillin is both Al Haymon and Showtime, a fight between them is pretty much impossible.

Again, don't see the Martinez fight ever happening. Sergio got his knee and skull busted up in the Chavez fight and then broke his hand and injured his knee again after the Murray fight which ended his 2013, he's not shot but he's aged overnight.

GGG is tied to K2 and doesn't have an exclusive deal with HBO. It is a possible fight but Al Haymon isn't going to put Quillin in there with GGG unless he gets options on him.

Blame Rasho · Post #1353 » by **Blame Rasho** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:34 am

Butch718 wrote:No way in hell does Martinez fight GGG. He's going to want that last big payday at 154 against Floyd or Canelo. Whether he gets it or not is a different story.

I think Martinez is done as a top fighter... he might face Chavez and likely lose. If Geale wins... he is the logical choice as well. I think he should just retire while on top.

Butch718 · Post #1354 » by **Butch718** » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:49 am

Blame Rasho wrote:GGG has an anvils in his gloves... His shots move people.... I would love to see him vs Ward....

Martinez...lol... yeah right...

Macklin came to fight tonight. He was trying to press the action early. But as soon as he felt GGG's power he went into survival mode and started back peddling.

Like I said in my previous post, it's not just power with this kid. He knows how to cut the ring off. He uses both hands extremely well. GGG has a good jab and likes to go to the body. He doesn't waste energy by throwing off balance and crazy punches. Everything he did tonight was done with poise and control. That's the scary part. He's improving technically with each and every fight.

cowboyronnie · Post #1355 » by **cowboyronnie** » Mon Jul 1, 2013 12:51 pm

Merciful, merciful body shot. Thank God. But that was brutal, I've never seen one land like that.

GS Warriors 1 · Post #1356 » by **GS Warriors 1** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 2:02 am

Golovkin is a bad MFer, no other words to put it from me. Sick body shot KO.

Gonzales/Oosthuizen was close, only because Gonzales didn't close out the last half of the fight all that well.

Also, saw today that Martinez wants a Golovkin fight in 2014. Credit to Maravilla, the man doesn't hide from challenges.

Butch718 · Post #1357 » by **Butch718** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 4:03 am

Martinez will get a tuneup before he fights GGG. DiBella already went on record saying that he doesn't want Sergio fighting GGG right away after a 14 month layoff. Which is understandable. He needs to shake off the rust before being put in the ring with that monster.

As for the potential outcome of the fight, it could get real ugly. Martinez's reflexes aren't the same and he's prone to getting hit and knocked down. GGG could potentially end his career. It's a fight that I'd want to see just so that GGG could cement his status as the undisputed number 1 at MW.

cowboyronnie · Post #1358 » by **cowboyronnie** » Tue Jul 2, 2013 11:37 am

Amazing to hear Macklin describe G's punches not as explosive but as punches where "you feel his weight". You can see exactly that. Kellerman for years has been describing Golovkin's main asset as being his balance, and that seems only more accurate.

I think prime Martinez vs GGG would be competitive and an amazing style match-up and a classic (>>> Pac vs Mayweather) but Sergio has looked a step slow for a couple years now. It's really unfortunate. His mobility, and the single or double shot counters from crazy angles...it would be amazing to see against GGG.

Butch718 · Post #1359 » by **Butch718** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 3:53 am

Golovkin/Macklin drew 1.1 million viewers. Which is 300,000 more than those that tuned in for the Rosado fight, and 500,000 more than those that tuned in for the Prozka bout. Think about it for a sec. This is the same guy that was practically unheard of less than a year ago. Conversely Adrien Broner drew 1.3 million viewers for his fight against Paulie on Showtime. The biggest difference is that Golden Boy has been building up Broner for a couple of years now. HBO did not start building up GGG till recently. This guy is going to be a huge PPV star. This should also help him get future fights because of his drawing power and the money that he can potentially bring to the table.

Blame Rasho · Post #1360 » by **Blame Rasho** » Wed Jul 3, 2013 4:05 am

Butch718 wrote:Golovkin/Macklin drew 1.1 million viewers. Which is 300,000 more than those that tuned in for the Rosado fight, and 500,000 more than those that tuned in for the Prozka bout. Think about it for a sec. This is the same guy that was practically unheard of less than a year ago. Conversely Adrien Broner drew 1.3 million viewers for his fight against Paulie on Showtime. The biggest difference is that Golden Boy has been building up Broner for a couple of years now. HBO did not start building up GGG till recently. This guy is going to be a huge PPV star. This should also help him get future fights because of his drawing power and the money that he can potentially bring to the table.

Showtime is in half the amount of homes... Broner rating was a huge rating for Showtime.