The 2013 Trade Thread II

[MasterIchiro]

Whut? If we trade Gordon for Hump than there is no way we are bringing Mullens and McBob back, maybe neither. I hate Gordon but who is going to back up Hendo (assuming he's resigned)? I swear, I will seriously desert this team if they go into some weird, win-now mode and make a big FA signing like Mayo or Smith or Ellis or some other stupid player.

So you think we are the suck of all suck with Hendo but the instant we sign someone like Mayo we're making a push for the playoffs? I don't see a gap that wide. And I don't want to commit to Hendo long term with no scoring on this team to speak of - passing on Beal and Barnes, passing on McLemore.

So maybe we should just make sure we commit to Hendo so we can stay ****.

Hendo is not going to get OJ Mayo money. And if that's what he wants, bye bye Hendo.

What I'm curious about is how would signing OJ Mayo put them in win-now mode but signing Henderson would not?

[tugs]

Anyway the Bobcats would want Pau Gasol? gives you a legit post presence that you need. Biz can cover the defense where Gasol is lacking at this point of his career and you also have Zeller who complements his style of play.

[BigSlam]

Anyway the Bobcats would want Pau Gasol? gives you a legit post presence that you need. Biz can cover the defense where Gasol is lacking at this point of his career and you also have Zeller who complements his style of play.

Nope

[Liver_Pooty]

Anyway the Bobcats would want Pau Gasol? gives you a legit post presence that you need. Biz can cover the defense where Gasol is lacking at this point of his career and you also have Zeller who complements his style of play.

No.

[Eoghan]

So you think we are the suck of all suck with Hendo but the instant we sign someone like Mayo we're making a push for the playoffs? I don't see a gap that wide. And I don't want to commit to Hendo long term with no scoring on this team to speak of - passing on Beal and Barnes, passing on McLemore.

So maybe we should just make sure we commit to Hendo so we can stay ****.

Hendo is not going to get OJ Mayo money. And if that's what he wants, bye bye Hendo.

What I'm curious about is how would signing OJ Mayo put them in win-now mode but signing Henderson would not?

Because the money it would cost to get Mayo for us would be franchise money and you don't sign guys to franchise contracts unless you are ready to win now.

[HornetJail]

Anyway the Bobcats would want Pau Gasol? gives you a legit post presence that you need. Biz can cover the defense where Gasol is lacking at this point of his career and you also have Zeller who complements his style of play.

Negative

You'd have to take Tyrus and Ben Gordon to make us consider.

[tugs]

I understand. but do you guys prefer to be less competitive this year to have a higher chance for a top pick? Are there any indications from the FO that CHA won't be making any major shake ups?

[KembaWalker]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

[BeesWax]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

No. And for a number of reasons but most of all I value Kemba more than the gamble on next seasons draft.

[MasterIchiro]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

The Pelicans are pursuing Andre Iguodala - now suppose we agreed to that trade and they signed him.

We would be trading Kemba for Noel and a pick dependent on where this team finishes:

Kemba Walker
Eric Gordon
Andre Iguodala
Anthony Davis
Robin Lopez

With so many teams tanking for Wiggins NO easily makes the playoffs with that squad and we end up having traded Kemba for Noel and the 16th pick in 2014. If Noel never pans out we will have harpooned the rebuild.

[Liver_Pooty]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

Good question, but no.

[mrknowitall215]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

No. There's a reason why the Sixers were willing to get rid of Jrue Holiday...because he's overrated. Holiday may have finally ante'd up his assist numbers this past season, but he's a turnover machine that negate most of the good things he do. My Sixers fell to the waist side in the middle of the season with Holiday at the helm, and any good GM could see that that was going to be our future outlook as a treadmill if we didn't swing a deal to take advantage of his perceived value coming off an all-star appearance

The reason why Philly was willing to take on Nerlens Noel was to avoid paying 3 or more times over to re-sign Andrew Bynum this offseason to have a anchor in the middle of the paint

I don't want to sound hypocritical by acting like Holiday's achilles of not winning like he should've shade him as if it doesn't pale the same for Kemba, but the Sixers were a much better team than the Bobcats, talent-wise & coaching-wise. I'm sure my Sixers would've traded Jrue for Kemba & the 4th overall pick in this past draft and would've felt like they came away with a better deal than the Pelicans barter, but Rich Cho ain't no dummy

[HornetJail]

hypothetical. if Pelicans approached us draft night offering Noel+top 8 protected 2014 pick (I will up the protection a bit because I assume Jrue is a bit more valued around the league even though he's overrated) for Walker, do you pull the trigger?

Good question, but no.

Ditto. The pick would have to be unprotected for me to even consider and even then, where do we get our point guard? Would we pick Trey Burke 6th and pick up the unprotected 2014 1st? There aren't many good point guards in 2014 either. I don't know if it's worth it. I think we've got a sure thing in Kemba.

Then again, I felt that Holiday was a sure thing for Philly.

[They_Them_Hatin]

T rob for 2014 and 15 2nd they get money for Dwight and 2 2nd round picks which they will need for tax purposes and they draft really well in the 2nd round.

[TheKingofSting]

T rob for 2014 and 15 2nd they get money for Dwight and 2 2nd round picks which they will need for tax purposes and they draft really well in the 2nd round.

While we need all of the help we can get I'm not sure there is a need for T rob with Zeller on board.

[mrknowitall215]

The Thomas Robinson deal looked intriguing about a month ago when the news first broke that he'd be available, but now that everything has soaked in, I'm not even sure if he's worth a 1st rounder at this point, maybe a 2nd rounder similar to the deal Cho did with OKC to bring Mullens over

[MasterIchiro]

The Thomas Robinson deal looked intriguing about a month ago when the news first broke that he'd be available, but now that everything has soaked in, I'm not even sure if he's worth a 1st rounder at this point, maybe a 2nd rounder similar to the deal Cho did with OKC to bring Mullens over

Would you take him for even money over McRoberts considering T-Rob is a better trade asset and could get playing time with a rookie on limited minutes?

[BeesWax]

The Thomas Robinson deal looked intriguing about a month ago when the news first broke that he'd be available, but now that everything has soaked in, I'm not even sure if he's worth a 1st rounder at this point, maybe a 2nd rounder similar to the deal Cho did with OKC to bring Mullens over

Would you take him for even money over McRoberts considering T-Rob is a better trade asset and could get playing time with a rookie on limited minutes?

I think I would rather have McRoberts because I think he will be mroe help to Zeller's transition than T-Rob would be. McRoberts posses a lot of the qualities I want Zeller to learn in order to become an effective 4. If he can help him learn how to see the game and move the ball we will be in much better shape with this pick.

[BeesWax]

Now if I can get T-Rob for nothing more than a second I would bring him in and bring back McRoberts as well. Then we have a nice mixture of vets and young guys. That way we can hope either of Zeller or T-Rob pan out and can be our PF of the future. Whichever one works out that one gets the starter gig and the other can end up a bench guy.

[mrknowitall215]

The Thomas Robinson deal looked intriguing about a month ago when the news first broke that he'd be available, but now that everything has soaked in, I'm not even sure if he's worth a 1st rounder at this point, maybe a 2nd rounder similar to the deal Cho did with OKC to bring Mullens over

Would you take him for even money over McRoberts considering T-Rob is a better trade asset and could get playing time with a rookie on limited minutes?

If it came down to a either or situation between whether Charlotte should re-sign McRoberts or trade for T-Rob, then I think Cho should ignore the latter. I think McRoberts has proven to the Bobcats that he could be a serviceable player, and he offers attributes at the PF position that not many bigs can as an above average passer. McRoberts also has shown some nice athleticism, something he's always had, but it was nice to see it in a Bobcats uniform. I don't see no reason why Charlotte couldn't re-sign McRoberts & trade for T-Rob altogether though, other than the question mark if Cho could strike a deal that would convince Houston to let T-Rob go for a 2nd rounder. I wouldn't recommend trading the Portland pick for T-Rob anymore with Zeller being the future PF of the franchise