The 2013 NBA Free Agency Thread

[fishercob]

Add Darren Collison to the list of UFA PG's -- Dallas just declined an option on him to clear some cap room.

[keynote]

What about Aaron Brooks? I see the Knicks are looking at him, but I also see that he hasn't come close to matching the output he had back in '09. What's the scouting report on him?

[dlts20]

why do people want Nate or anyone that is going to want to play big minutes? Guys like Nate are good on teams that dont have stars at the 1 & 2 spots already. If you have a star at both spots like we do then you dont want a guy like Nate. I like the names on the Insider list alot better.

Not only that but if we are going to resign Webster then that means we have a ton of SF's in which one will definitely be the backup SG. I think we will play big in the backcourt more often with ether someone like Ariza playing the 2 more often while Porter or Webster are at the 3

I posted something like this in the line ups thread.

I think the opposite. Well, kind of. They do have big guards but I think they are going to play smaller like SA does. Well smaller up front. Kind of.

They are going after the model of... just get players.

Wall is you PG, clearly.
Beal your SG, same.

After that, for starters at PF and back up SF and SG, I think they are going to go smaller at PF and spread the floor like Wall wanted.

Beal 6-5 - SG who played some SF in college. If his handles improve, he wants to play some PG. Some SF even.
Temple 6-6 PG/SG and can defend 3 positions.
Glen Rice Jr 6-6 is a SG in the NBA but played some SF
Webster 6-7 SF that plays some SG. Hell, that article even said they could play him some at PF.
Trevor A 6-8 SF that can play some PF or SG because he knows how to run around .
Otto 6-8 or 6-9 - same as above

Then you also have Ves 6-11 245, Kevin S 6-9 275 and Booker 6-8 240.

Nene and Okafor can play PF and Center for more traditional line ups against the Indy type teams, but if both get most their minutes at center, you can play SA style small ball with all those names above. Trevor A and Otto could get plenty of minutes at PF and that opens things up for Webster at SF where he shinned.

Another pure PG type vet would round out the roster pretty well. Gotta be someone that can run the offense.

No, I agree and thats what I want. I want the best players on the floor which means a guy like Ariza to me can backup at the 2, 3, and 4. Same guys for Webster and even Porter although he may just be 3 & 4. Then also throw Rice into that mix. Id rather have those guys at the backup 2 & 4 then to just get random guys as FA to play those spots even though they are lesser players

[truwizfan4evr]

The Washington Wizards will seek out Eric Maynor, Beno Udrih and John Lucas III as backup point guard options in free agency, according to sources.

A.J. Price and Garrett Temple are both unrestricted free agents.

Temple is the most likely of the two to return.

The Wizards have already stated their goal is to make the playoffs

[truwizfan4evr]

The Washington Wizards will seek out Eric Maynor, Beno Udrih and John Lucas III as backup point guard options in free agency, according to sources.

A.J. Price and Garrett Temple are both unrestricted free agents.

Temple is the most likely of the two to return.

The Wizards have already stated their goal is to make the playoffs

I want maynor!

[FAH1223]

Maynor hasn't been the same since tearing his ACL last year.

I'd rather have Beno though his D isn't good. But he can score and distribute.

[payitforward]

I like Nate Robinson the best, too, Dat.

PGs some might have mentioned already, who I left off the list earlier: Will Bynum, Beno Udrih, Jose Calderon

I think Bynum is about as good as Nate Robinson, maybe better. Same kind of instant offense and also a good enough playmaker. I like Calderon as a pure passer who makes the open shot, (but his defense is bad, bad, bad)..

Robinson played last year at veteran minimum $$. He was definitely a bargain at that price -- speaking of which, yes, he had a better season than Price. (sorry... couldn't help myself). Definitely a good target.

Bynum made more $$ and delivered much less. Udrih and Calderon are likely to sign for bigger dollars than we're ready (or able) to pay.

And... Nate Robinson is a lot of fun to watch!

[payitforward]

I posted this in the martell Webster thread. Thought it would go well here too.

http://instagram.com/p/bMKAbihHiM/

Martell's instagram.

Martell is one of those guys you just wish he was your friend. Just a great guy.

[mhd]

Udrich is the guy to target. He can play as a combo guard next to Wall.

[payitforward]

Collison would be a great pick up and upgrade over Price -- if the price is right I'd love to have him.

[80sballboy]

Not a big Nate fan but I can see their point (so to speak), that if they lose John for a long period of time, we need somebody where the drop off is not as bad where we have to play A.J. Price or Jordan Crawford at the point. My only issue with Nate other than him being 5-foot-7 is that is he goes too much 1-on-5 and forgets about his teammates. I guess 41% three-point shooting is nice if he can keep it up since he averages 36% for his career.

[hands11]

Udrich is the guy to target. He can play as a combo guard next to Wall.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CMeP0iT8p4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsBjz-axr5Q[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... fLFO8&NR=1

We need Beno, but can we afford him ?

Plays like a shorter Manu. My guess is SA would like to have him back about now.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2448/beno-udrih

30 years old. Plenty mature. Some SA experience which is good. 6-3. Plenty tall.

[JWizmentality]

I want me some Beno. Always liked his game.

[Rafael122]

Asked Nivek but I need some clarification...can you use the bi-annual exception, mid-level exception and the vet minimum all in the same offseason?

If so...I'd bring back Temple on the vet minimum.

Nate played for less than $1 million. I'd give him the bi-annual exception, possibly on a two year deal.

That leaves Webster, it sounds like the team wants him back but my thing is, at what price. I wouldn't give him the entire mid-level exception and if we did bring him back, hopefully it's on a 3 year deal. I'm on the fence. We would be absolutely stacked though, I feel, and the bench would be pretty solid.

I'll go with Webster at 3 years, starting salary at $3 million with 4.5% increases per year...that rounds to about $10 million over 3 years.

Then use the remaining $2.1 million on Copeland. Maybe a 3 yr deal at about $7 or $8 million.

PG - Wall/Robinson
SG - Beal/Rice Jr/Temple
SF - Ariza/Webster/Porter
PF - Nene/Copeland/Singleton/Vesely/Booker
C - Okafor/Seraphin

I'm throwing stuff at the wall at this point. That's 5 power forwards. A trade would have to be in the works to balance the roster.

I think the second string lineup would be Robinson/Webster/Porter/Copeland/Seraphin, or if they want to play small: Robinson/Rice/Webster/Porter/Seraphin.

[fishercob]

Asked Nivek but I need some clarification...can you use the bi-annual exception, mid-level exception and the vet minimum all in the same offseason?

If so...I'd bring back Temple on the vet minimum.

Nate played for less than $1 million. I'd give him the bi-annual exception, possibly on a two year deal.

That leaves Webster, it sounds like the team wants him back but my thing is, at what price. I wouldn't give him the entire mid-level exception and if we did bring him back, hopefully it's on a 3 year deal. I'm on the fence. We would be absolutely stacked though, I feel, and the bench would be pretty solid.

I'll go with Webster at 3 years, starting salary at $3 million with 4.5% increases per year...that rounds to about $10 million over 3 years.

Then use the remaining $2.1 million on Copeland. Maybe a 3 yr deal at about $7 or $8 million.

PG - Wall/Robinson
SG - Beal/Rice Jr/Temple
SF - Ariza/Webster/Porter
PF - Nene/Copeland/Singleton/Vesely/Booker
C - Okafor/Seraphin

I'm throwing stuff at the wall at this point. That's 5 power forwards. A trade would have to be in the works to balance the roster.

I think the second string lineup would be Robinson/Webster/Porter/Copeland/Seraphin, or if they want to play small: Robinson/Rice/Webster/Porter/Seraphin.

Rafa, I think the answer to your initial question is yes. You can use as many vet minimum contracts as you need to fill out a roster.

I think it's a buyer's market under the new CBA and that we can retain Webster and get two decent backups using the exceptions.

[hands11]

Asked Nivek but I need some clarification...can you use the bi-annual exception, mid-level exception and the vet minimum all in the same offseason?

If so...I'd bring back Temple on the vet minimum.

Nate played for less than $1 million. I'd give him the bi-annual exception, possibly on a two year deal.

That leaves Webster, it sounds like the team wants him back but my thing is, at what price. I wouldn't give him the entire mid-level exception and if we did bring him back, hopefully it's on a 3 year deal. I'm on the fence. We would be absolutely stacked though, I feel, and the bench would be pretty solid.

I'll go with Webster at 3 years, starting salary at $3 million with 4.5% increases per year...that rounds to about $10 million over 3 years.

Then use the remaining $2.1 million on Copeland. Maybe a 3 yr deal at about $7 or $8 million.

PG - Wall/Robinson
SG - Beal/Rice Jr/Temple
SF - Ariza/Webster/Porter
PF - Nene/Copeland/Singleton/Vesely/Booker
C - Okafor/Seraphin

I'm throwing stuff at the wall at this point. That's 5 power forwards. A trade would have to be in the works to balance the roster.

I think the second string lineup would be Robinson/Webster/Porter/Copeland/Seraphin, or if they want to play small: Robinson/Rice/Webster/Porter/Seraphin.

I think your reaching a little to far there. We aren't adding a PF this year.
Otto is not your 3rd SF and they aren't going to stick Ves 4 deep on the bench by adding another player.
And you have Trevor A starting at SF ? And Trevor A/Webster and Otto splitting 48 mins ? I doubt it.

You are getting ahead of yourself by trying to go all in. They are not at an all in phase. Thats next year at the soonest. This is a make the playoffs and evaluate Otto, Ves and Kevin phase.

This is a year that Ves and Kevin S get to prove themselves once and for all. You might not like it, but they are going to leave PF open enough for one of them to win back up PF.

I doubt Ves is slotted behind Singleton. They have plenty of players his size to play PF if needed. Actually I think Singleton is the in active player.

[FAH1223]

Udrich is the guy to target. He can play as a combo guard next to Wall.

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2CMeP0iT8p4[/youtube]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JsBjz-axr5Q[/youtube]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=en ... fLFO8&NR=1

We need Beno, but can we afford him ?

Plays like a shorter Manu. My guess is SA would like to have him back about now.

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/_/id/2448/beno-udrih

30 years old. Plenty mature. Some SA experience which is good. 6-3. Plenty tall.

I wouldn't be surprised if SA tried to get him back.

He won two rings there

[spaceman_E]

Players I'd inquire on: Udrih, Splitter, Francisco Garcia, Nick Young, Redick, Wilcox. Then look to dump a Forward. But I also would have sent two 2nds for Thomas Robinson; easily higher floor/higher ceiling than our current bench bigs.

[hands11]

[youtube]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzzI2rb-oqg[/youtube]

http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/i ... will-bynum

http://hoopshype.com/salaries/detroit.htm



http://espn.go.com/nba/player/stats/_/id/4010/aj-price

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ii8c2zC-o0

But Price is more of a SG then a PG.

[hands11]

Players I'd inquire on: Udrih, Splitter, Francisco Garcia, Nick Young, Redick, Wilcox. Then look to dump a Forward. But I also would have sent two 2nds for Thomas Robinson; easily higher floor/higher ceiling than our current bench bigs.

So you think you can get T Rob for 2 seconds ?

Yoo. Pass that over here. You have been smoking to much.

Hey, maybe they get that desperate, but it wasn't on draft day. They are going to wait until Howard makes a decision before they do a fire sale.