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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#21 » by nevetsov » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:18 am

Fair enough, I just figured the drafting of Bennett implied otherwise. I don't see them as a starting duo together and in that case one would have to be a bench player. I assumed it would be Thompson.
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#22 » by RunDogGun » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:27 am

Thompson might be ok, but you guys just drafted at number one, a guy that plays his position. Unless they plan to run Thompson at the five for the year. But if Varejao is healthy, he is much better at the spot than Thompson.

I just don't think, at his weight, that Bennett can play the three spot. Maybe on offense, but no way on defense.

I don't see the point in trading Gortat and Scola for AV and Thompson. I think we could gain more assets by splitting them in different trades.

I know everyone thinks we will lose value on Gortat if we wait until near the deadline, but since he is expiring, I think he will try his best to get the next high paying contract, unless he is ok with what he is getting now. But if he pulls a 15/10/1.5-2 blks a game, he will be attractive to a team and/or a new contract.

Scola, while being older, is a cagey vet. He is great for any team (even ours). Plus he is on a great contract. If we don't already have a deal in place, I say wait it out a bit, unless we get an offer to good to pass up. Teams will be fighting to get Howard, the ones who lost out will be looking.
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#23 » by Revived » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:40 am

The plan for Bennett in Cleveland is to start off as a stretch 4 and then eventually lose weight and convert into a 3.

IMO that won't work. But that's what the Cavs are doing.
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Post#24 » by Dupp » Sun Jun 30, 2013 5:48 am

I dont think Bennett can play the 3 and i don't think (hope we dont) we plan on making that his future position.

Obviously they don't fit but i think Thompson will start for a while until Bennett proves better. Thompson can split minutes at the 5 and 4 as he did last season.
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Post#25 » by Revived » Sun Jun 30, 2013 6:27 am

This what Bennett said

“Right now I’m thinking [I’ll be] stretch four but later on in my career maybe I will play the three,” Bennett said
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#26 » by phrazbit » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:31 am

Scola was the main PF in the "worst PF rotation in the NBA" last year. I'm not sure anyone would want him as a mentor. He does not play D, his rebounding is iffy, his effort is hit and miss and what he does well is his herky jerky post game which is not something I would want to try and force a younger player to learn.
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Post#27 » by RunSunRun » Sun Jun 30, 2013 9:35 am

Any picks we receive from Cleveland must also involve adoption papers for Gilbert's son, :lol:
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Post#28 » by rsavaj » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:46 am

The longer you hold on to Marcin, the less leverage you have in a trade.

I really like Gortat. He's a fine player...he's just around at the wrong time right now.
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Post#29 » by youngBazz85 » Sun Jun 30, 2013 8:40 pm

DirtyDez wrote:Scola definitely has 1st round value to a playoff team. I think we could get a couple picks and Lamb/PJ3 for Scola/Dudley.



I think this would be good for both

then we do Gortat for Varajaeo and Gee

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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#30 » by sunsbum » Sun Jun 30, 2013 11:38 pm

rsavaj wrote:The longer you hold on to Marcin, the less leverage you have in a trade.

I really like Gortat. He's a fine player...he's just around at the wrong time right now.



I think the suns realize this and are trying to bring his value back up to par buy not acting so desperate to move him.

by all means though hes still on the block
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#31 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jul 1, 2013 12:02 am

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rsavaj wrote:The longer you hold on to Marcin, the less leverage you have in a trade.

I really like Gortat. He's a fine player...he's just around at the wrong time right now.



I think the suns realize this and are trying to bring his value back up to par buy not acting so desperate to move him.

by all means though hes still on the block


We aren't desperate to move, only a bunch of fans are desperate to trade him. I don't think we will lose any value in Gortat. He'll be playing for a contract, and a team that is good enough and in need will want him, and he will stay there. I think he would be happy on a winning team, with a contract with multiple years.

As for Scola, he did quite well for us, and he was definitely worth his contract.
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#32 » by bwgood77 » Mon Jul 1, 2013 12:28 am

No one will offer much in a trade before the free agent centers all land somewhere....most of the teams that need a center have cap space to bid for a free agent center anyway.
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Post#33 » by RunDogGun » Mon Jul 1, 2013 1:27 am

bwgood77 wrote:No one will offer much in a trade before the free agent centers all land somewhere....most of the teams that need a center have cap space to bid for a free agent center anyway.


Not all will be willing to wait a full season to do so. And if he has such poor trade value, then we should just keep him.
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Re: Trade Timing - FA Period or Trade Deadline 

Post#34 » by sunsbum » Mon Jul 1, 2013 5:09 am

RunDogGun wrote:
sunsbum wrote:
rsavaj wrote:The longer you hold on to Marcin, the less leverage you have in a trade.

I really like Gortat. He's a fine player...he's just around at the wrong time right now.



I think the suns realize this and are trying to bring his value back up to par buy not acting so desperate to move him.

by all means though hes still on the block


We aren't desperate to move, only a bunch of fans are desperate to trade him. I don't think we will lose any value in Gortat. He'll be playing for a contract, and a team that is good enough and in need will want him, and he will stay there. I think he would be happy on a winning team, with a contract with multiple years.

As for Scola, he did quite well for us, and he was definitely worth his contract.


I disagree. I think its been pretty obvious since basically the all star break that we have been looking to move gortat. I honestly dont think (and hope) that we have no intentions of keeping him even if we have to sell low, there are two possibly three franchise players coming up in this next draft. We would be running the same rat race if we werent trying to find new homes for dudley and the G.

There is absolutely no reason we need to keep any vets with value around besides dragic past the all star break.
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