The 2013 Trade Thread II

[TheKingofSting]

Asik only makes 8.3 a year. That's a good contract for big who can anchor a defense. I think HOU would want too much for him but I'd gladly welcome him if the price was right.

His last year is $14,898,938, that is bad

Well that's not exactly true. I believe every year of his 3 year deal will count 8.3 against the cap. But he would be paid 5 mil, 5mil, 15 mil.

Ah, you learn something new everyday.

I still don't want him on our team.

[Liver_Pooty]

"Before Nerlens Noel fell to pick No. 6, the Pelicans were entertaining the idea of trading that selection to the Bobcats for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe notes amid his weekly roundup"

Thankfully nothing became of that.

[Elden Payton]

"Before Nerlens Noel fell to pick No. 6, the Pelicans were entertaining the idea of trading that selection to the Bobcats for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe notes amid his weekly roundup"

Thankfully nothing became of that.

BS report.

No way the Cho-Bot does that.

[MasterIchiro]

"Before Nerlens Noel fell to pick No. 6, the Pelicans were entertaining the idea of trading that selection to the Bobcats for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe notes amid his weekly roundup"

Thankfully nothing became of that.

Had Cleveland left Bennett for Wiz at 3, Porter would have got to 4. It was highly unusual for Cleveland to go with Bennett.

If Charlotte took Porter at 4, that would have pushed Zeller, Noel/Len down to the Suns. Perhaps the Suns take Noel for the Sixers and Zeller magically reappears at 6 and the Bobcats walk away from the draft with Zeller, Porter instead of MKG and the Pelicans first round top-5 protected draft pick in the 2014 draft.

And Sheridan would have been like BOO YEAH.

[Liver_Pooty]

"Before Nerlens Noel fell to pick No. 6, the Pelicans were entertaining the idea of trading that selection to the Bobcats for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe notes amid his weekly roundup"

Thankfully nothing became of that.

Had Cleveland left Bennett for Wiz at 3, Porter would have got to 4. It was highly unusual for Cleveland to go with Bennett.

If Charlotte took Porter at 4, that would have pushed Zeller, Noel/Len down to the Suns. Perhaps the Suns take Noel for the Sixers and Zeller magically reappears at 6 and the Bobcats walk away from the draft with Zeller, Porter instead of MKG and the Pelicans first round top-5 protected draft pick in the 2014 draft.

And Sheridan would have been like BOO YEAH.

I've never seen so many hypothetical situations in my life.

[James Gatz]

"Before Nerlens Noel fell to pick No. 6, the Pelicans were entertaining the idea of trading that selection to the Bobcats for Michael Kidd-Gilchrist, as Gary Washburn of the Boston Globe notes amid his weekly roundup"

Thankfully nothing became of that.

BS report.

No way the Cho-Bot does that.

While draft night was peppered with deals for picks, one of the more interesting deals that didn’t happen was a proposed trade that would have sent Kidd-Gilchrist from the Bobcats to the Pelicans for the sixth pick. The Pelicans were apparently seeking to pair former Kentucky teammates Kidd-Gilchrist and Anthony Davis and were open to sacrificing their pick.

http://www.bostonglobe.com/sports/2013/06/29/two-sides-doc-rivers-exit-celtics-coach/KH8clSiWUtWqZ1SQYVSRwI/story.html?s_campaign=sm_tw

I hope this report doesn't have much truth. I would have been very upset if we traded MKG for just the 6th pick.

[fatlever]

perhaps the pelicans called the cats with that offer, cho listened, asked for more in return (like a 2014 pick), the pelicans werent willing to give up that much for mkg and turned to the sixers deal.

[MasterIchiro]

I think for the MKG trade to be lined up, Porter would have had to be there at 4 but Cleveland choosing Bennett ended that possibility right out of the gate. I think if the report is true we could have ended up with Porter at 4, our guy at 6 plus NO top-5 protected first in 2014. Essentially instead of Zeller and MKG we would have had Zeller and Porter plus a top-5 protected first in the 2014 draft.

Porter + that first > MKG in my opinion.

But Cleveland screwed that one.

[fatlever]

it would certainly make sense for the pelicans to want to pair davis and mkg together. vasquez, gordon, mkg, andrerson, davis is pretty nice starting 5. you have shooting, defense, playmaking, shot blocker, rebounding...

[fatlever]

I think for the MKG trade to be lined up, Porter would have had to be there at 4 but Cleveland choosing Bennett ended that possibility right out of the gate. I think if the report is true we could have ended up with Porter at 4, our guy at 6 plus NO top-5 protected first in 2014. Essentially instead of Zeller and MKG we would have had Zeller and Porter plus a top-5 protected first in the 2014 draft.

Porter + that first > MKG in my opinion.

But Cleveland screwed that one.

this makes sense and confirms the sheridan story. IF the pelicans were offering #6 and top 5 protected in 2014 for a proven vet and we were thinking we could land our guy zeller at 6 while getting porter and 4 and adding another 2014 lottery pick, then i can see why cho was talking about moving mkg. thats a trade you have to listen to.

[MasterIchiro]

And it would make sense to get Zeller (our guy) plus a top-5 protected pick in the 2014 draft instead of just Zeller, assuming the Bobcats liked Porter as a fit.

[MasterIchiro]

I think for the MKG trade to be lined up, Porter would have had to be there at 4 but Cleveland choosing Bennett ended that possibility right out of the gate. I think if the report is true we could have ended up with Porter at 4, our guy at 6 plus NO top-5 protected first in 2014. Essentially instead of Zeller and MKG we would have had Zeller and Porter plus a top-5 protected first in the 2014 draft.

Porter + that first > MKG in my opinion.

But Cleveland screwed that one.

this makes sense and confirms the sheridan story. IF the pelicans were offering #6 and top 5 protected in 2014 for a proven vet and we were thinking we could land our guy zeller at 6 while getting porter and 4 and adding another 2014 lottery pick, then i can see why cho was talking about moving mkg. thats a trade you have to listen to.

I'm no mind reader but Sheridan sounded sincere and honest to me.

[fatlever]

that being said, can you imagine the outcry the fans would have had after hearing we traded mkg for zeller? haha.

kemba, hendo, porter, zeller, biz (serious tank team) + a possible 4 lottery picks in 2014 AND 20+ mil in cap space. thats the kind of assets that lands you a superstar.

[fatlever]

i dont doubt that cho was discussing MKG trades. that being said, i dont think we are aggressively shopping him. i think cho is just doing his due diligence and gauging his value. cho is collecting assets to eventually try to land a superstar. mkg is an asset.

[MasterIchiro]

that being said, can you imagine the outcry the fans would have had after hearing we traded mkg for zeller? haha.

kemba, hendo, porter, zeller, biz (serious tank team) + a possible 4 lottery picks in 2014 AND 20+ mil in cap space. thats the kind of assets that lands you a superstar.

Or two!

[MasterIchiro]

i dont doubt that cho was discussing MKG trades. that being said, i dont think we are aggressively shopping him. i think cho is just doing his due diligence and gauging his value. cho is collecting assets to eventually try to land a superstar. mkg is an asset.

I agree the inevitability of it sounded presumptuous but I think that a trade of this magnitude must have been ongoing to the point where plenty of opportunities to leak presented themselves. It's possible Sheridan's source was in the Pelican's front office.

[Liver_Pooty]

I think for the MKG trade to be lined up, Porter would have had to be there at 4 but Cleveland choosing Bennett ended that possibility right out of the gate. I think if the report is true we could have ended up with Porter at 4, our guy at 6 plus NO top-5 protected first in 2014. Essentially instead of Zeller and MKG we would have had Zeller and Porter plus a top-5 protected first in the 2014 draft.

Porter + that first > MKG in my opinion.

But Cleveland screwed that one.

this makes sense and confirms the sheridan story. IF the pelicans were offering #6 and top 5 protected in 2014 for a proven vet and we were thinking we could land our guy zeller at 6 while getting porter and 4 and adding another 2014 lottery pick, then i can see why cho was talking about moving mkg. thats a trade you have to listen to.

I'm no mind reader but Sheridan sounded sincere and honest to me.

I'll give Sheridan credit in that in the interview with Charlotte radio he sounded angry. Did we talk MKG trades? Probably, but that's just the nature of the beast. Would he different if he was a perennial all star.

[fatlever]

that being said, if MKG shows a decent amount of improvement next season, just imagine how much his trade value will increase by next draft.

[MasterIchiro]

that being said, if MKG shows a decent amount of improvement next season, just imagine how much his trade value will increase by next draft.

Right, if we do win Wiggins/Parker maybe he's enough to get us Randle or something crazy in addition.

Still, it would be hard to top Otto Porter Jr. plus a top-5 protected pick from the Pelicans.

[fatlever]

i'll reserve judgement on porter til i see him play for a while.